Big problem in LIS if you want to actually go anywhere. MANY (if not
MOST) of
the nicest places to visit are 8 feet at MLW. Anything much over 5-6
foot
draft, and you are fairly severely limited.



This was a primary reason for us walking away from the C&C 34XL, though
I did not walk away easily.
I wish I could broker that Baltic here in NY. Gorgeous boat. Ah
well...I already flew to Florida enough to buy the 35s5....and boy are
my arms tired.



Robert
35s5
NY

So....here's the dilemma.

=====================

Your dilemma is that you have way too much money. You own a boat, you use
it on weekends, and an occasional overnight.

And now you want a bigger boat! Yet, you have only owned the "Bene-thing"
for one season!

Go AWAY.... PLEASE.

================================================== ===================================
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...


So....here's the dilemma. My wife and I currently sail a Beneteau First
35s5 on the Long Island Sound. We love the boat, though it's our first
season with her. She's great in all kinds of air and quite comfortable
for our daysails and overnighters with our two year old son.
Down the road we planned to buy a more serious cruiser and of course I
recently got a heads up that a Baltic 43 was going to be set for
auction in Florida. The boat, already surveyed two months ago, is in
excellent shape. She's a 1987 and loaded with gear, sails and upgrades
added last year to the tune of 75K. Only..it was never paid for and now
the boat belongs, in part, to the yard run by a friend of mine. Long
story short: I can own the Baltic 43 for 145K, plus another 4K to ship
it here. That's a huge chunk off of what they typically sell for.
The problem....obviously a unique deal and obviously too much boat for
us at present. Do we jump on it for the deal. We WOULD sail her, she
just wouldn't get the kind of use a boat like that should. That's not
to say you can't daysail what you want, but a Baltic 43 is a true
bluewater yacht.
Some of our friends say "you don't buy the right boat at the wrong time
and good deals be damned." Others say, JUMP! I think the latter group
just wants to sail her!

I'd be interested in what YOU would do if presented with this
opportunity. Oh, and we are not really permitted to flip the boat. The
offer is for us to BUY and keep her for a while. My friend could easily
sell her for more without my help!



Thanks

Robert & Suzanne
35s5 Heart of Gold
NY

"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:q_12h.4037$B44.2344@trndny07...
So....here's the dilemma.

=====================

Your dilemma is that you have way too much money. You own a boat, you use
it on weekends, and an occasional overnight.

And now you want a bigger boat! Yet, you have only owned the "Bene-thing"
for one season!

Go AWAY.... PLEASE.

================================================== ===================================

What do you care how much money he has? Does it make you any poorer? Would
breaking his leg make you walk better? Sheesh.

What do you care how much money he has? Does it make you any poorer?
Would
breaking his leg make you walk better? Sheesh.



Don't sweat it, Mike. These are trolls from ASA where I was quite the
offender myself. All done with that, but they seem to need me, so
they've followed me. I'll just ignore them as should everyone.
My last few days of sailing this season are here.....sad times. On the
other hand I'm getting the teak finally done in the cockpit and a host
of other small upgrades such as a new asym. chute and lazy jacks.


Cheers,


Robert
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:

Don't sweat it, Mike. These are trolls from ASA where I was quite the
offender myself.

Yes, you are the supreme offender. Why aren't you at ASA anymore? Got
booted because of conflicts with ASA and some boat yards? Or was it
because of your attacks on others sexual orientation? Or your
potentially libellous postings? Which one? Or all of them?

Warning to all: this guy is full of it up to his ears. He will be
trolling you all with incredible stories and deals. He'll run a
commercial business on this newsgroup.

Don't believe me? Stroll over to alt.sailing.asa and search
" and see what just floated in to your newsgroup. He
has almost 30,000 posts to ASA most of them taunting others about their
boats, families and livelihoods.

Make this guy feel welcome here and you'll regret it. Seriously.

Don't say you weren't warned!

I'm already regretting the childish behavior in this newsgroup
"Pup Socket" wrote in message
ups.com...

Capt. Rob wrote:

Don't sweat it, Mike. These are trolls from ASA where I was quite the
offender myself.

Yes, you are the supreme offender. Why aren't you at ASA anymore? Got
booted because of conflicts with ASA and some boat yards? Or was it
because of your attacks on others sexual orientation? Or your
potentially libellous postings? Which one? Or all of them?

Warning to all: this guy is full of it up to his ears. He will be
trolling you all with incredible stories and deals. He'll run a
commercial business on this newsgroup.

Don't believe me? Stroll over to alt.sailing.asa and search
" and see what just floated in to your newsgroup. He
has almost 30,000 posts to ASA most of them taunting others about their
boats, families and livelihoods.

Make this guy feel welcome here and you'll regret it. Seriously.

Don't say you weren't warned!

On 2 Nov 2006 08:51:09 -0800, "Pup Socket"
wrote:
Yes, you are the supreme offender. Why aren't you at ASA anymore? Got
booted because of conflicts with ASA and some boat yards? Or was it
because of your attacks on others sexual orientation? Or your
potentially libellous postings? Which one? Or all of them?

Warning to all: this guy is full of it up to his ears. He will be
trolling you all with incredible stories and deals. He'll run a
commercial business on this newsgroup.

Don't believe me? Stroll over to alt.sailing.asa and search
" and see what just floated in to your newsgroup. He
has almost 30,000 posts to ASA most of them taunting others about their
boats, families and livelihoods.

Make this guy feel welcome here and you'll regret it. Seriously.

Don't say you weren't warned!

Why don't YOU give it a break?
Mr. Sprit posts on several groups I read and has always posted within
a groups concensus of behavior.
Mr. Sprit has stated numerous times he posts on ASA to troll and have
fun. Most of the ASA group understands that and has a good time
playing.
You're a hothead bringing your squabble here.
Mark E. Williams

Capt. Rob wrote:

So....here's the dilemma.

Sounds much too good to be true. While you're at it, why not buy a new
Benz for $5k.

-paul

Sounds much too good to be true. While you're at it, why not buy a new
Benz for $5k.


It wasn't. But it was also an inside favor. I've had good luck with
such deals in the past. A few years ago I snared a loaded C&C 32 for
15K. Doubled our money on that after sailing it for two years. We
passed on the C&C 34XL, but that boat could have been ours for 35K
below market value. We also did really well on the Beneteau 35s5 we
have, which will make money when we sell. Quite recently a fellow at my
yard bought a nearly mint Catalina 34 for 20K at a police auction. She
was a mid 90's model that had sat hidden away. All he had to do was
ship her from Arizona!
The deals are out there. They often come when you're way too busy, too
poor or too old to do anything about them.


Robert
35s5
NY

If true, then one wonders if it's the same Baltic 43 that
was donated to the Navy Academy in a state of disassembly.




It's not.
I've decided to fly to Florida to look over the boat afterall. Last
Friday I sailed with a fellow who had some 1st hand experience with the
43 and that restarted my interest in the boat. I have to be in St.
Petersburg soon anyway to examine a sail inventory so it's all good.
As far as the 43 being hard to sail shorthanded...the fellow who
delivered one does not agree. He found her easy to handle and a "small"
43 footer overall. In spite of the draft...I'll keep my eyes wide open.
I'm off for a sail. Seems like TODAY will be the last of the season for
Heart of Gold.



Robert
35s5
NY