So....here's the dilemma. My wife and I currently sail a Beneteau First
35s5 on the Long Island Sound. We love the boat, though it's our first
season with her. She's great in all kinds of air and quite comfortable
for our daysails and overnighters with our two year old son.
Down the road we planned to buy a more serious cruiser and of course I
recently got a heads up that a Baltic 43 was going to be set for
auction in Florida. The boat, already surveyed two months ago, is in
excellent shape. She's a 1987 and loaded with gear, sails and upgrades
added last year to the tune of 75K. Only..it was never paid for and now
the boat belongs, in part, to the yard run by a friend of mine. Long
story short: I can own the Baltic 43 for 145K, plus another 4K to ship
it here. That's a huge chunk off of what they typically sell for.
The problem....obviously a unique deal and obviously too much boat for
us at present. Do we jump on it for the deal. We WOULD sail her, she
just wouldn't get the kind of use a boat like that should. That's not
to say you can't daysail what you want, but a Baltic 43 is a true
bluewater yacht.
Some of our friends say "you don't buy the right boat at the wrong time
and good deals be damned." Others say, JUMP! I think the latter group
just wants to sail her!

I'd be interested in what YOU would do if presented with this
opportunity. Oh, and we are not really permitted to flip the boat. The
offer is for us to BUY and keep her for a while. My friend could easily
sell her for more without my help!



Thanks

Robert & Suzanne
35s5 Heart of Gold
NY

In . com "Capt. Rob" writes:



So....here's the dilemma. My wife and I currently sail a Beneteau First
35s5 on the Long Island Sound. We love the boat, though it's our first
season with her. She's great in all kinds of air and quite comfortable
for our daysails and overnighters with our two year old son.
Down the road we planned to buy a more serious cruiser and of course I
recently got a heads up that a Baltic 43 was going to be set for
auction in Florida. The boat, already surveyed two months ago, is in
excellent shape. She's a 1987 and loaded with gear, sails and upgrades
added last year to the tune of 75K. Only..it was never paid for and now
the boat belongs, in part, to the yard run by a friend of mine. Long
story short: I can own the Baltic 43 for 145K, plus another 4K to ship
it here. That's a huge chunk off of what they typically sell for.
The problem....obviously a unique deal and obviously too much boat for
us at present. Do we jump on it for the deal. We WOULD sail her, she
just wouldn't get the kind of use a boat like that should. That's not
to say you can't daysail what you want, but a Baltic 43 is a true
bluewater yacht.
Some of our friends say "you don't buy the right boat at the wrong time
and good deals be damned." Others say, JUMP! I think the latter group
just wants to sail her!

I'd be interested in what YOU would do if presented with this
opportunity. Oh, and we are not really permitted to flip the boat. The
offer is for us to BUY and keep her for a while. My friend could easily
sell her for more without my help!

Thanks

Robert & Suzanne
35s5 Heart of Gold
NY

Baltic is not just any boat. Tha Baltic Yard is founded by some workers,
who were not satisfied with the quality and the concept of Swan. If you
can get a Baltic 43 with this sort of deal, you know that the work done
to the boat is done properly and the boat is in proper shape, I would
say, go for it. If you think you will keep on sailing, you will look for
a bigger boat that a "35" anyway, so why not take it now, when it is
awailable.

- Lauri Tarkkonen

A quick search in Yachtworld shows prices in the $225K range so you are
getting a good discount. I wouldn't worry too much about the boat being
bigger than necessary or more difficult to sail.
As you say, friends will be happy to help and with the extra room you could
easily take another couple along for longer cruises.
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...


So....here's the dilemma. My wife and I currently sail a Beneteau First
35s5 on the Long Island Sound. We love the boat, though it's our first
season with her. She's great in all kinds of air and quite comfortable
for our daysails and overnighters with our two year old son.
Down the road we planned to buy a more serious cruiser and of course I
recently got a heads up that a Baltic 43 was going to be set for
auction in Florida. The boat, already surveyed two months ago, is in
excellent shape. She's a 1987 and loaded with gear, sails and upgrades
added last year to the tune of 75K. Only..it was never paid for and now
the boat belongs, in part, to the yard run by a friend of mine. Long
story short: I can own the Baltic 43 for 145K, plus another 4K to ship
it here. That's a huge chunk off of what they typically sell for.
The problem....obviously a unique deal and obviously too much boat for
us at present. Do we jump on it for the deal. We WOULD sail her, she
just wouldn't get the kind of use a boat like that should. That's not
to say you can't daysail what you want, but a Baltic 43 is a true
bluewater yacht.
Some of our friends say "you don't buy the right boat at the wrong time
and good deals be damned." Others say, JUMP! I think the latter group
just wants to sail her!

I'd be interested in what YOU would do if presented with this
opportunity. Oh, and we are not really permitted to flip the boat. The
offer is for us to BUY and keep her for a while. My friend could easily
sell her for more without my help!



Thanks

Robert & Suzanne
35s5 Heart of Gold
NY

If you can afford it I'd buy it and sail it whenever and whereever you want
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...


So....here's the dilemma. My wife and I currently sail a Beneteau First
35s5 on the Long Island Sound. We love the boat, though it's our first
season with her. She's great in all kinds of air and quite comfortable
for our daysails and overnighters with our two year old son.
Down the road we planned to buy a more serious cruiser and of course I
recently got a heads up that a Baltic 43 was going to be set for
auction in Florida. The boat, already surveyed two months ago, is in
excellent shape. She's a 1987 and loaded with gear, sails and upgrades
added last year to the tune of 75K. Only..it was never paid for and now
the boat belongs, in part, to the yard run by a friend of mine. Long
story short: I can own the Baltic 43 for 145K, plus another 4K to ship
it here. That's a huge chunk off of what they typically sell for.
The problem....obviously a unique deal and obviously too much boat for
us at present. Do we jump on it for the deal. We WOULD sail her, she
just wouldn't get the kind of use a boat like that should. That's not
to say you can't daysail what you want, but a Baltic 43 is a true
bluewater yacht.
Some of our friends say "you don't buy the right boat at the wrong time
and good deals be damned." Others say, JUMP! I think the latter group
just wants to sail her!

I'd be interested in what YOU would do if presented with this
opportunity. Oh, and we are not really permitted to flip the boat. The
offer is for us to BUY and keep her for a while. My friend could easily
sell her for more without my help!



Thanks

Robert & Suzanne
35s5 Heart of Gold
NY

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:55:56 -0800, Capt. Rob wrote:



So....here's the dilemma. My wife and I currently sail a Beneteau First
35s5 on the Long Island Sound. We love the boat, though it's our first
season with her. She's great in all kinds of air and quite comfortable
for our daysails and overnighters with our two year old son.
Down the road we planned to buy a more serious cruiser and of course I
recently got a heads up that a Baltic 43 was going to be set for
auction in Florida. The boat, already surveyed two months ago, is in
excellent shape. She's a 1987 and loaded with gear, sails and upgrades
added last year to the tune of 75K. Only..it was never paid for and now
the boat belongs, in part, to the yard run by a friend of mine. Long
story short: I can own the Baltic 43 for 145K, plus another 4K to ship
it here. That's a huge chunk off of what they typically sell for.
The problem....obviously a unique deal and obviously too much boat for
us at present. Do we jump on it for the deal. We WOULD sail her, she
just wouldn't get the kind of use a boat like that should. That's not
to say you can't daysail what you want, but a Baltic 43 is a true
bluewater yacht.
Some of our friends say "you don't buy the right boat at the wrong time
and good deals be damned." Others say, JUMP! I think the latter group
just wants to sail her!

I'd be interested in what YOU would do if presented with this
opportunity. Oh, and we are not really permitted to flip the boat. The
offer is for us to BUY and keep her for a while. My friend could easily
sell her for more without my help!

Well as someone noted it's a huge discount. So if you like the boat and
you really want it, then go for it if you can afford it, but get a good
survey done first.

If you have so many friends who want to sail her, then you shouldn't have
trouble finding crew for daysailing, if the boat is too big to handle by
yourselves.

If it does prove too much boat, you can still sell it at a profit, and say
you really tried to handle it (which would be true).

Matt O.

"Capt" Rob wrote:
recently got a heads up that a Baltic 43 was going to be set for
auction in Florida.

If true, then one wonders if it's the same Baltic 43 that
was donated to the Navy Academy in a state of disassembly.



The problem....obviously a unique deal and obviously too much boat for
us at present.

But it would make a great stepping stone.

... That's not
to say you can't daysail what you want, but a Baltic 43 is a true
bluewater yacht.

??? Not in the sense that most people use the term.


I'd be interested in what YOU would do if presented with this
opportunity.

Personally, I'm not interested in a Baltic 43. I like the
older 42.

One issue with the Baltic 43 is that the cockpit is NOT laid
out for casual daysailing when short handed. While two
people could sail almost any 43-footer (given reasonable
skills & equipment), this one is not going to be easy or
fun. Other than that, it's truly a super boat.



Matt O'Toole wrote:
Well as someone noted it's a huge discount. So if you like the boat and
you really want it, then go for it if you can afford it, but get a good
survey done first.


Good idea. By a real surveyor too, not an unlicensed phony
"internet captain" surveyor.


If you have so many friends who want to sail her, then you shouldn't have
trouble finding crew for daysailing, if the boat is too big to handle by
yourselves.


Well put.

As others mentioned, there is also the draft issue.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

On 31 Oct 2006 09:55:56 -0800, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

Some of our friends say "you don't buy the right boat at the wrong time
and good deals be damned." Others say, JUMP! I think the latter group
just wants to sail her!

I'd be interested in what YOU would do if presented with this
opportunity. Oh, and we are not really permitted to flip the boat. The
offer is for us to BUY and keep her for a while. My friend could easily
sell her for more without my help!

If you care about the money, you can try to quantify things. Figure
out how long till you'll be "ready" for a boat like that. Figure out
how much more it will cost you to own the Baltic than your old boat
for that length of time. Include slip fees, maintenance,
depreciation, etc, as well as a round number to refit the Baltic to
the same condition it is in now at the end of that time. Figure out
how much that money could reasonably earn if invested over that period
of time. Compare that number to the estimated cost of buying the same
boat at the end of the period. That gives an estimate of what it
really will cost you to make your move now.

Then go ahead and do whatever you want to do and your wife will let
you do! :-)
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A 43 is a lot of boat for two people with young children whereas 35 is
just about right.

I think I'd pass.

======================

On 31 Oct 2006 09:55:56 -0800, "Capt. Rob" wrote:



So....here's the dilemma. My wife and I currently sail a Beneteau First
35s5 on the Long Island Sound. We love the boat, though it's our first
season with her. She's great in all kinds of air and quite comfortable
for our daysails and overnighters with our two year old son.
Down the road we planned to buy a more serious cruiser and of course I
recently got a heads up that a Baltic 43 was going to be set for
auction in Florida. The boat, already surveyed two months ago, is in
excellent shape. She's a 1987 and loaded with gear, sails and upgrades
added last year to the tune of 75K. Only..it was never paid for and now
the boat belongs, in part, to the yard run by a friend of mine. Long
story short: I can own the Baltic 43 for 145K, plus another 4K to ship
it here. That's a huge chunk off of what they typically sell for.
The problem....obviously a unique deal and obviously too much boat for
us at present. Do we jump on it for the deal. We WOULD sail her, she
just wouldn't get the kind of use a boat like that should. That's not
to say you can't daysail what you want, but a Baltic 43 is a true
bluewater yacht.
Some of our friends say "you don't buy the right boat at the wrong time
and good deals be damned." Others say, JUMP! I think the latter group
just wants to sail her!

I'd be interested in what YOU would do if presented with this
opportunity. Oh, and we are not really permitted to flip the boat. The
offer is for us to BUY and keep her for a while. My friend could easily
sell her for more without my help!



Thanks

Robert & Suzanne
35s5 Heart of Gold
NY

BWaHaHAha hahahahaha hahahah

What a STUPID T R O L L !!!!



"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...


So....here's the dilemma. My wife and I currently sail a
Beneteau First
35s5 on the Long Island Sound. We love the boat, though
it's our first
season with her. She's great in all kinds of air and quite
comfortable
for our daysails and overnighters with our two year old
son.
Down the road we planned to buy a more serious cruiser and
of course I
recently got a heads up that a Baltic 43 was going to be
set for
auction in Florida. The boat, already surveyed two months
ago, is in
excellent shape. She's a 1987 and loaded with gear, sails
and upgrades
added last year to the tune of 75K. Only..it was never
paid for and now
the boat belongs, in part, to the yard run by a friend of
mine. Long
story short: I can own the Baltic 43 for 145K, plus
another 4K to ship
it here. That's a huge chunk off of what they typically
sell for.
The problem....obviously a unique deal and obviously too
much boat for
us at present. Do we jump on it for the deal. We WOULD
sail her, she
just wouldn't get the kind of use a boat like that should.
That's not
to say you can't daysail what you want, but a Baltic 43 is
a true
bluewater yacht.
Some of our friends say "you don't buy the right boat at
the wrong time
and good deals be damned." Others say, JUMP! I think the
latter group
just wants to sail her!

I'd be interested in what YOU would do if presented with
this
opportunity. Oh, and we are not really permitted to flip
the boat. The
offer is for us to BUY and keep her for a while. My friend
could easily
sell her for more without my help!



Thanks

Robert & Suzanne
35s5 Heart of Gold
NY

Thanks for the orders, queries and mention of me, folks.
To the fellow who was interested in the Furlex, I accidentally deleted
your e-mail, but please contact me at . The short
answer to the question is about 15% less, but again it depends on what
else you order.


Robert
35s5
NY