"NE Sailboat" wrote in news:HuKHh.1566$pi.707
@trndny09:

Bob has that fever .. wood boat fever. This can be a very dangerous
condition.



This condition IS treatable. Find someone with a wooden boat and offer him
Bob and Bob's sander, every weekend for the next month, to help him do what
he does all the time....sand and paint...sand and paint.

Bob'll soon come to his senses and start looking for a nice FIBERGLASS boat
to SAIL not SAND on weekends.

Wood nostalgia is wonderful during that first hour of sanding, but wanes
quickly as the sun tops the mast....

Larry
--
Can you hear the woodborers eating the hull as you lay in the v-berth?

"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

my husband hated the tiller and refused to consider a wooden
boat,

Women love wooden boats because the HUSBAND does the
maintenance....continuously.

Anonymous

In article HuKHh.1566$pi.707@trndny09,
"NE Sailboat" wrote:

I don't know much about the cold molded boats. My teacher at my
Power Squadron course said they are very sweet. He used to own a
Hinkley. If he thinks they are sweet ;;;;;;;;;;;; they are sweet.


Fiberglass is a poor copy of wood, except that it is more stable.

Raced a one-design fleet that had both cold molded and glass boats. The
wood boats were absolutely gorgeous (when not painted), lighter,
stronger and faster than the glass versions.

But though they were dry-sailed, the wood ones spent most of the winter
in the owners' heated garages being maintained.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
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"Larry" wrote in message
...
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

my husband hated the tiller and refused to consider a wooden
boat,

Women love wooden boats because the HUSBAND does the
maintenance....continuously.

Anonymous

Not in this family. lol

On Mar 7, 11:30 pm, Larry wrote:
"NE Sailboat" wrote in news:HuKHh.1566$pi.707
@trndny09:

Bob has that fever .. wood boat fever. This can be a very dangerous
condition.

This condition IS treatable. Find someone with a wooden boat and offer him
Bob and Bob's sander, every weekend for the next month, to help him do what
he does all the time....sand and paint...sand and paint.

Bob'll soon come to his senses and start looking for a nice FIBERGLASS boat
to SAIL not SAND on weekends.

Wood nostalgia is wonderful during that first hour of sanding, but wanes
quickly as the sun tops the mast....



Dont get me wrong........... I wood never own a wood boat. U got 2 b
nuts to own one or very very rich.
I have a GRP, 1979ventage. I love it. Why? Cause it aint wood!


Larry
--
Can you hear the woodborers eating the hull as you lay in the v-berth?

Ah,ship worms...... gribbles, torredo worms (which are not worms at
all... actually a clam)

Whats not to love about red lead, white lead, Dolpinite, pine
tar................. Arg!

uh, just about everything............. every spring and every fall.

but please do not tell me a Pergo boat incapsulated in epoxy is a
"wood boat" It just aint so. Theyre pretty, ridgid, water proof,
light,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and plastic.
Bob

"Bob" wrote in message
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On Mar 7, 11:30 pm, Larry wrote:
"NE Sailboat" wrote in news:HuKHh.1566$pi.707
@trndny09:

Bob has that fever .. wood boat fever. This can be a very dangerous
condition.

This condition IS treatable. Find someone with a wooden boat and offer
him
Bob and Bob's sander, every weekend for the next month, to help him do
what
he does all the time....sand and paint...sand and paint.

Bob'll soon come to his senses and start looking for a nice FIBERGLASS
boat
to SAIL not SAND on weekends.

Wood nostalgia is wonderful during that first hour of sanding, but wanes
quickly as the sun tops the mast....



Dont get me wrong........... I wood never own a wood boat. U got 2 b
nuts to own one or very very rich.
I have a GRP, 1979ventage. I love it. Why? Cause it aint wood!


Larry
--
Can you hear the woodborers eating the hull as you lay in the v-berth?

Ah,ship worms...... gribbles, torredo worms (which are not worms at
all... actually a clam)

Whats not to love about red lead, white lead, Dolpinite, pine
tar................. Arg!

uh, just about everything............. every spring and every fall.

but please do not tell me a Pergo boat incapsulated in epoxy is a
"wood boat" It just aint so. Theyre pretty, ridgid, water proof,
light,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and plastic.
Bob

What is a wood boat joined with Resorcinol and encapsulated in paint, tar
and varnish?

If you want to join "Master Mariners," you must have a traditional wooden
boat built using traditional materials and methods. Sort of the
"fundamentalists" of the wooden boat world. But this doesn't mean that a
*modern* wooden boat is not a *real* wooden boat, any more than saying that
a *real* wooden boat must be trunnel-fastened rather than screwed together.
An encapsulated wood boat is exactly that -- you cannot take the wood out of
the equation just because you object to it.

On the other hand, I would have no objection to calling such a boat a "Pergo
Boat," although the Pergo people might. Maybe not -- they produce a
magnificent product.

But this doesn't mean that a
*modern* wooden boat is not a *real* wooden boat, any more than saying that
a *real* wooden boat must be trunnel-fastened rather than screwed together.

Excellent point ! I guess the folks who stretched skins over wood
frames and burt hollow logs would say that 1928 cavel planked troller
was not a true wood boat.

On the other hand, I would have no objection to calling such a boat a "Pergo
Boat," although the Pergo people might. Maybe not -- they produce a
magnificent product.

Dont tell any one but I got a plank of that composit backyard decking.
you know the stuff made of sawdust and plastic. Ripped it down for
use under a sail track. Its great stuff, cheep, UV protected, tough,
stable, sorta looks like wood, and availible everywhere. Goes great on
my plastic boat! Now to get that last bit of wood of her. Next on my
list to deep 6 are thoes teak grab rails on top the house.
Wood........... I hate the stuff. Its a pain in the ass!

But in my heart, epoxy + wood are not wood boats.

Bob

"Bob" wrote in message
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Dont tell any one but I got a plank of that composit backyard decking.
you know the stuff made of sawdust and plastic. Ripped it down for
use under a sail track. Its great stuff, cheep, UV protected, tough,
stable, sorta looks like wood, and availible everywhere. Goes great on
my plastic boat! Now to get that last bit of wood of her. Next on my
list to deep 6 are thoes teak grab rails on top the house.
Wood........... I hate the stuff. Its a pain in the ass!

But in my heart, epoxy + wood are not wood boats.

Bob


I plan to use that "PlasTeek" stuff to replace the wooden grabrails on
Essie. Not because I have a problem with keeping up with varnish on them
(relatively minor compared with the rest of my wood trim), but because I
don't want to put varnish on them -- too slippery for a hand-hold. A couple
of years ago I stripped them down to bare wood and treated them with
Penetrol, but I'd need to recoat them once a month or so in active sailing
and that's too much work for me. Don't know that I'd use it extensively, but
I do use Marine Grade HDPE all over the boat. It's great stuff, and nothing
will stick to it.

KLC Lewis wrote:

I plan to use that "PlasTeek" stuff to replace the wooden grabrails on
Essie. Not because I have a problem with keeping up with varnish on them
(relatively minor compared with the rest of my wood trim), but because I
don't want to put varnish on them -- too slippery for a hand-hold. A couple
of years ago I stripped them down to bare wood and treated them with
Penetrol, but I'd need to recoat them once a month or so in active sailing
and that's too much work for me. Don't know that I'd use it extensively, but
I do use Marine Grade HDPE all over the boat. It's great stuff, and nothing
will stick to it.

No "PlasTeek" or real teak for me. Give me 316
Stainless steel handrails. Then all I've got to
do is keep them bedded so they don't leak ;-)

Don W.

RW Salnick wrote:
But others have made the point: You had best be ready to do the work..
there will be a lot of it. Wooden boats want very much to turn back
into mulch. It will be your responsibility to stay ahead of this process.

All that taken into consideration, a well cared for wooden boat is
truely a thing of beauty...

Thanks for that Bob

Just a thought, but is the horrific amount of work on wooden boats
people keep talking about because their experiences have involved
maintaining varnished wood? I mean the boat I'm considering has no bare
wood at all. The superstructure is all made from ply and painted
several coats of battleship grey!

I know a few wooden dinghy owners who spend a lot of time sanding and
varnishing their dinghies, but surely if you just slap a load of paint
all over it that's lower maintenance than keeping up the healthy
polished wooden look? My boat in question is certainly not going to be
a great example of beautiful wood.