On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:26:03 -0600, "Janice"
wrote:

So, I'm shopping eBay and spotted:

http://tinyurl.com/sl67
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(the above is a URL shrunk for line-wrapping -- the real URL is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=25680475 76

Nifty, eh? For me, it's got a gizmo quotient almost off the scale. I've
seen something similar if memory serves me, but that was decades ago....

Anyway, thought you might like looking. Happy cruising.

Thanks for posting. My wife and I enjoyed looking at them. I would
guess they are probably bronze from the color.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a

"Religious wisdom is to wisdom as military music is to music."

I assume you mean one for showers, etc.... not the coffee-tea type that
some of the posters are refering to AND that the link you sent is for
(insinkerator). I have one of those as well both at home and on the
boat but they are NOT for showers.....

On the boat...
I had a 20 gal hot water heater with 1 1500 watt element (14 Amp @
110V). It rusted out so I wanted to replace it BUT they boat designer
did not design the boat so that you could replace it so I cut it in
pieces and removed it piece by piece and replaced it with a 4500 Watt
tankless hot water heater ( 20 Amp 220V)(MANY BOATS CANNOT HANDLE THIS
AMOUNT OF AC POWER). In the summer it worked OK here in FL where my
water tank is 85 degrees and I wanted 110 degree water for showers.
Water sometimes went hot-cold as it cycled and it did not work when both
showers were on. So... I added a 6 gallon hot water heater behind it
and that services a family of 5 (3 girls) with no problem in the summer.
I could add an engine heat attachment to this little unit for free hot
water but the boat has 20KW of power so I did not bother doing the
plumbing. In the winter, I turn on the tankless system to feed the hot
water heater and that gives us plenty of water to take nice hot showers
in the winter on the boat.

In the house...
I had a recovery system put on the AC unit and I get free hot water for
8 months of the year in FL and for the other 4 months I have a timer
that turns on for an hour before shower time and heats the water the
last little bit it needs (AC does not run as much in the middle of winter)


Conor Crowley wrote:
The owner of scuba diving school once commented to me on how
astounded he was regarding cost savings after replacing his water
heater with small, individual, point-of-use water heaters in his
shower stalls. For some reason this has always stuck with me, and now
I noticed the following attractive item in the local h/w sto
http://insinkerator.com/pdf/hc1100.PDF

I'm interested in getting some feedback on what the 'gotchas' might be
installing this on cruising sailboat. I suspect 190°F is probably
scalding, but using both the hot and cold together is probably good
enough for hand washing. In terms of power consumption, I contacted
the company and received the response below:

..Conor


Steamin' Hot Water Dispenser…
Energy Consumption Information
(For ½ gallon tanks)

The original ISE Hot Water Dispenser was designed to provide " instant
food temperature water" for the kitchen.
Studies @ the Iowa State University Heat Transfer Laboratory have
shown that when used as an aid in cooking and the preparation of all
"instant foods" the hot water dispenser can save "over 80 percent
normally used in cooking where hot water is required." It also saves
water, since only the water used in cooking, without any waste.

TYPICAL KITCHEN USE & COST
The ½ gallon water tank is fully insulated with expanded polystyrene
foam and uses a 75-watt element to heat the water. It is generally
located under the sink directly below the decorative faucet. An
automatic thermostat maintains the water in the tank @ 190°F, the
ideal preparation of "instant foods".

During normal use (when hot water is drawn from the faucet, colder
water replaces it in the tank) the thermostat will turn the heating
element "on" to maintain the 190°F temperature. The thermostat also
turn the heater on periodically, even when no water is being used, to
replace the heat lost to the air (a water heater does exactly the same
thing.

The cost of heating water in the Hot Water Dispenser is a combination
of two factors: standby cost and dispensing cost. The standby cost
is the power used to maintain the tank temperature even when there is
no water being used. The dispensing cost is the power used to heat
the water actually drawn from the faucet.

The ISE standby cost is 0.52-kilowatt hours per 24 hours. This means
that the heating element is only on 42 minutes for 24 hours.

The ISE dispensing cost is approximately 0.021-kilowatt hours per 8oz
cup of water used.

The average daily usage of the dispenser is about 10-8oz cups.

A typical cost for electricity is about 8 cents per kilowatt-hour.

Standby cost 0.52 x 0.08 = $00.0416 (4
cents)
Dispensing cost 0.21 x 10 x .08 = $00.0168 (less than 2
cents)
THE TOTAL DAILY COST FOR THE DISPENSER IS: $00.0584 (less than 6
cents).