Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...

Right. I'm not going to do an impulse buy.



That's excellent that you're taking your time and doing it right.
There's one moron around here by the name of JimC who claims he's a
lawyer. He ran out on an impulse and bought a Mac26M and now is totally
embarrassed about his uninformed entry-level purchase. It's like I'm
sure people look at his boat and then find out he's a lawyer and they
begin to wonder how lame is this guy. Lawyers who are worth a hoot make,
what, about 500 dollars an hour so he ought to be able to afford a real
boat and a classy boat at that. Anyhow, poor JimC spent probably a
hundred hours posting things about how he was so happy with his purchase
but you could tell he was not happy at all. Somebody who's happy with
his boat doesn't spend hundreds of hours trying to convince himself how
great it is.

What's really sick is how Wilbur, and a few others, devote all that
attention and time posting such garbage criticizing me and my boat. If
he was really interested in sailing and really enjoying his own boat,
he wouldn't be so interested in posting more sarcastic notes like that
one. (Actually, once was enough for us to get your peculiar and biases
re the Macs, Wilbur.) - Why do you go on and on on this subject? It
suggests that you have some other motive, of course. - Are you jealous
that I'm out sailing and enjoying my boat after you have posted all
those notes explaining why I shouldn't enjoy sailing it?

It's obvious that Wilbur has some personal problems and is in need of
professional help. - No normal adult would get his jollies posting such
childish, personal attacks on a fellow sailor, over and over again.

Jim

Peter Hendra wrote abunch of stuff:

For the love of Pete...Wilbur aka Neal Warren, sails or sailed a
Coronado 27...mustard yellow..with a lavender and mauve interior...and
you actually take anything he has to say seriosuly...both you and Jim
need to chill out and either laugh off his posts or just plain ignore
them (like I do until others repost his crap in their replies)...

On Mar 26, 10:28 pm, Peter Hendra wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:39:57 GMT, JimC wrote:

Snip
Cheers
Peter Hendra
(I do go on - don't I? Blame it on the Greek blood).


Reminds me of my first boat;
she was a little 30' troller, out of Charlston Oregon.
An old converted log pond tug; she only had a foot of free board and a
foot of keel.

the Fella I bought her from started fishing as a boy in 1919 and his
boats had always been rigged like he learned to fish.
the Terry L had hand gurdies running tuna cord and cotton spreads.

the boat he got to replace the Terry L was almost 100 years old and 22
foot double ender he set it up the same way.
every day this 80 year old would be on his boat at 4:30 in the
morning.
all the young fishermen laughed at him heading out the jaws at 5 knots
for a day of fishing.
what they didnt see was his daily catch.
I had to learn how to use the gear on my boat; so i went fishing as
his hand for a couple years.
this man never came to port with less than a hold full of fish.
The Argus would never win a beauty contest but she sure could fish.

On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:28:17 +1000, Peter Hendra
wrote:


If there is one thing I have learned, it is that one should never
ridicule other people's choice of boat any more than one should
ridicule their occupation, station in life or choice of spouse.

Thank you for writing of your experiences here. It is educational,
to say the least.

--Vic

Dog gone Katie... that was kind of a cold hearted admonishment
of Mr. Hendra's post much less Jim Cate.

Excluding Jim of course... it could well be that Mr. Hendra is
not up to speed and familiar with the infamous Captain Neal and
his literary escapades (much less alias) via these news groups.

For the record... I myself found Peter Hendra's post a very inter-
esting readindeed... and thank him for sharing.

Bill

Channel Islands Harbor
Oxnard, California

And Vic...

If you still have a lingering interest in the MacGregor 26 boats...
and as others have suggested... check out this web site:

http://macgregorsailors.com

It is a moderated forum... with about 1800 registered users...
and very active concerning the MacGregor product... mostly
the good... but the bad and ugly as well. (smile)

And yeh... I am an owner as well... and you are more than wel-
come to email me direct. The email address that is shown... is
for real.

I have made it personal policy not to discuss the attributes as well
as the shortcomings of this boat on public forums... for obvious rea-
sons.

Jim Cate is the only one that I am aware of that has the guts to do
so. heh heh

Best regards to all...

Bill

Anacapa Isle Marina
Channel Islands Harbor
Oxnard, California

wrote in message
oups.com...
And Vic...

If you still have a lingering interest in the MacGregor 26 boats...
and as others have suggested... check out this web site:

http://macgregorsailors.com

It is a moderated forum... with about 1800 registered users...
and very active concerning the MacGregor product... mostly
the good... but the bad and ugly as well. (smile)

And yeh... I am an owner as well... and you are more than wel-
come to email me direct. The email address that is shown... is
for real.

I have made it personal policy not to discuss the attributes as well
as the shortcomings of this boat on public forums... for obvious rea-
sons.

Jim Cate is the only one that I am aware of that has the guts to do
so. heh heh


JimC is a natural born loser so it's to be expected he'd engage in
self-flagellation in public forums. Anybody who buys a Mac26 is a loser.
Anybody who's proud of owning one is a double loser. If you own a Mac26,
just shut up about it and use it once in a while. Try to not notice any
real sailboats because you will quickly become dissatisfied with your
choice of boats. Try not to notice any real motor boats because you will
quickly become annoyed at the lame compromise boat you ended up with.
Just stay focused on never examining the many faults of the Mac26
compared to its one or two virtues and you might remain happy with your
uninformed purchase for a season or two. But whatever you do, NEVER
claim it's a good boat because it just isn't. It's a cheap, entry level,
compromise boat that calls to immediate attention the lack of
intelligence of the owner. People who have real motorboats and people
who have real sailboats know what I'm talking about.

Wilbur Hubbard.

Peter Hendra wrote:
If there is one thing I have learned, it is that one should never
ridicule other people's choice of boat any more than one should
ridicule their occupation, station in life or choice of spouse.

Well, most of the time. There's always the well-justified exception.

OTOH there's always the bitter losers who will spew their bile on any
possible target, thus proving to the world what they really are.
"Wilber Hubbard" is just one of many such.

Vic Smith wrote:
Thank you for writing of your experiences here. It is educational,
to say the least.


I agree. Visiting Rinja (or for that matter, much of Indonesia) must
have been fascinating. Do you see any Komodo dragons?

Regards
Doug King

On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:39:57 GMT, JimC wrote:



Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...

Right. I'm not going to do an impulse buy.



That's excellent that you're taking your time and doing it right.
There's one moron around here by the name of JimC who claims he's a
lawyer. He ran out on an impulse and bought a Mac26M and now is totally
embarrassed about his uninformed entry-level purchase. It's like I'm
sure people look at his boat and then find out he's a lawyer and they
begin to wonder how lame is this guy. Lawyers who are worth a hoot make,
what, about 500 dollars an hour so he ought to be able to afford a real
boat and a classy boat at that. Anyhow, poor JimC spent probably a
hundred hours posting things about how he was so happy with his purchase
but you could tell he was not happy at all. Somebody who's happy with
his boat doesn't spend hundreds of hours trying to convince himself how
great it is.

What's really sick is how Wilbur, and a few others, devote all that
attention and time posting such garbage criticizing me and my boat. If
he was really interested in sailing and really enjoying his own boat,
he wouldn't be so interested in posting more sarcastic notes like that
one. (Actually, once was enough for us to get your peculiar and biases
re the Macs, Wilbur.) - Why do you go on and on on this subject? It
suggests that you have some other motive, of course. - Are you jealous
that I'm out sailing and enjoying my boat after you have posted all
those notes explaining why I shouldn't enjoy sailing it?

It's obvious that Wilbur has some personal problems and is in need of
professional help. - No normal adult would get his jollies posting such
childish, personal attacks on a fellow sailor, over and over again.

Jim

I guess where Wilbur misses the boat is his remark that "Lawyers who
are worth make, what, about 500 dollars an hour so he ought to be
able to afford a real boat and a classy boat", and Wilbur is probably
right.

But instead of buying a boat that meets Wilbur's standards for a
proper boat the guy went out and bought what HE wanted. Probably what
a lot of people do -- ignore Wilbur and buy what they want....


Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeatgmaildotcom)

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:39:57 GMT, JimC wrote:



Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...

Right. I'm not going to do an impulse buy.



That's excellent that you're taking your time and doing it right.
There's one moron around here by the name of JimC who claims he's a
lawyer. He ran out on an impulse and bought a Mac26M and now is
totally
embarrassed about his uninformed entry-level purchase. It's like I'm
sure people look at his boat and then find out he's a lawyer and
they
begin to wonder how lame is this guy. Lawyers who are worth a hoot
make,
what, about 500 dollars an hour so he ought to be able to afford a
real
boat and a classy boat at that. Anyhow, poor JimC spent probably a
hundred hours posting things about how he was so happy with his
purchase
but you could tell he was not happy at all. Somebody who's happy
with
his boat doesn't spend hundreds of hours trying to convince himself
how
great it is.

What's really sick is how Wilbur, and a few others, devote all that
attention and time posting such garbage criticizing me and my boat. If
he was really interested in sailing and really enjoying his own boat,
he wouldn't be so interested in posting more sarcastic notes like that
one. (Actually, once was enough for us to get your peculiar and biases
re the Macs, Wilbur.) - Why do you go on and on on this subject? It
suggests that you have some other motive, of course. - Are you jealous
that I'm out sailing and enjoying my boat after you have posted all
those notes explaining why I shouldn't enjoy sailing it?

It's obvious that Wilbur has some personal problems and is in need of
professional help. - No normal adult would get his jollies posting
such
childish, personal attacks on a fellow sailor, over and over again.

Jim

I guess where Wilbur misses the boat is his remark that "Lawyers who
are worth make, what, about 500 dollars an hour so he ought to be
able to afford a real boat and a classy boat", and Wilbur is probably
right.

But instead of buying a boat that meets Wilbur's standards for a
proper boat the guy went out and bought what HE wanted. Probably what
a lot of people do -- ignore Wilbur and buy what they want....


Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeatgmaildotcom)


See my most recent post with the subject line of "Your boat should
reflect your status in life . . ." It should quell your doubts.

Wilbur Hubbard in Phuket