On 17 Apr 2007 13:45:35 -0700, Joe wrote:

Joe and others who responded negatively to my initial post, a post I
wrote with genuine feelings for those young people whose lives were so
needlessly cut short and for those of their friends and relations who
will never forget this day and for whom part of them has died with
the loss of their loved ones.

Just how illogical and ridiculous can you be to draw such conclusions
as:

From Wikpedia
As of 2005, approximately 22 million or 46.5% of the South Korean
population express no religious preference.[26] Of the remainder, 10.7
million are Buddhist, 8.6 million are Protestant, 5.1 million are
Catholic, and less than half a million belong to various minor
religions including Jeungsando and Wonbuddhism.

I think Peter is trying to take the heat off the murdering Islamic
Jihadist that clearly use religion as a tool to con brain dead retards
into blowing themselves up and murdering scores of people in the name
of Allah.

Joe

If you knew anything about history and had ever bothered to learn
anything about Islam other than that promulgated by your press then
you would know that it is expressly forbidden to kill non-combatants
for any reason. The misguided who "blow themselves up" are offending
Islamic doctrine by killing innocent unarmed people.

So that I am not accused of
A: not knowing anything about American history, and
B: forwarding a supposed political agenda when in reality I believe
that "Flags tend to be cloaks that disguise a number of prejudices and
emotions" and belong to no political camp other than perhaps humanism,
I shall quote from Anerican literature to support my claim of your
ignorance.

" Americans are too broadly underinformed to digest nuggets of
information that seem to contradict what they know of the world ...
Instead, news channels prefer to feed Americans a constant stream of
simplified information, all of which fits what they already know. That
way they don't have to devote more air time or newsprint space to
explanations or further investigations."
Tom Fenton, former CBS foreign correspondent

"Politicians and the media have conspired to infantilize, to dumb
down, the American public. At heart, politicians don't believe that
Americans can handle complex truths, and the news media, especially
television news, basically agrees."
Tom Fenton, former CBS foreign correspondent

"Television is altering the meaning of "being informed" by creating a
species of information that might properly be called disinformation...
Disinformation does not mean false information. It means misleading
information - misplaced, irrelevant, fragmented or superficial
information - information that creates the illusion of knowing
something, but which in fact leads one away from knowing."
Neil Postman

As to the gentleman who commented about my supposed lack of sympathy
for Iraqi children, just how can you draw that conclusion? How
absolutely pathetic and unintelligent as is the gentleman who
suggested I was trying to "take the heat off Islam". I have never
mentioned, for example, my anger at the over 200 Cambodian children
who are killed and miamed each year by landmines with U.S. labels on
them that "were never dropped in that country" and which international
groups are trying to inactivate. To what point in this newsgroup? I am
not anti-American, far from it and do not wish to seem so.

I have never mentioned the Iraqi war apart from my annoyance at
Coalition task forces ( all ships were American) threatening to fire
upon my yacht and family in international waters in the Mediterranean
and Red Seas. I could do so - again from your own literature which I
have read extensively, both fiction and other so that you may see
that I possibly know a little more about your country than you give me
credit for:

"fascism - A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the
extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business
leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."
The American Heritage Dictionary, 1983

"All democracies turn into dictatorships - but not by coup. The people
give their democracy to a dictator, whether it's Julius Caesar or
Napoleon or Adolf Hitler. Ultimately, the general population goes
along with the idea... That's the issue that I've been exploring: How
did the Republic turn into the Empire ... and how does a democracy
become a dictatorship? "
Star Wars filmmaker George Lucas

"Why of course the people don't want war... That is understood. But
after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy,
and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it
is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a
communist dictatorship ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be
brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to
do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists
for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Hermann Goering - German of course.

"This [the U.S. Constitution] is likely to be administered for a
course of years and then end in despotism... when the people shall
become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of
any other."
Benjamin Franklin


As to your quiet aquiesence to the Patriot Act, much of which
legislation will be retained in some form regardless of political
speak - no government gives up power willingly; none other that Thomas
Jefferson wrote - "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to
gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."

"They wrote in the old days that it is sweet and fitting to die for
one's country. But in modern war there is nothing sweet or fitting in
your dying. You will die like a dog for no good reason."
Ernest Hemingway

One of the great attractions of patriotism-it fulfils our worst
wishes. In the person of our nation we are able, vicariously, to bully
and to cheat. Bully and cheat, what's more, with a feeling that we are
profoundly virtuous. Aldous Huxley (1894 - 1963) - English

The propagandist's purpose is to make one set of people forget that
certain other sets of people are human. Aldous Huxley (1894 - 1963)
(- such as Moslems - sic) - English

The gregariousness of men is their most contemptible and discouraging
aspect. See how they follow each other like sheep, not knowing why.
--Henry David Thoreau

It is my experience that most of your countrymen and women have never
read a single document written by your founding fathers, and even less
have read much of your literature by writers such as Clemens, O Henry,
Ambrose Bierce, Thoreau, Hemingway, Steinbeck and so on. It is people
from other nations such as Germans and Japanese that I can have
discussions with on these authors, seldom American (I exclude my
American diver friend, Jack Curley here).

Thus
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; It wastes your time and annoys the
pig." -- Mark Twain - one of my favourite authors and philosophers

Ever so kindest regards
Peter

Peter, you are pathetic. Why don't you just admit it; you hate the USA.

"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what
you know for sure that just ain't so."
Mark Twain quote





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"Peter Hendra" wrote in message
news
On 17 Apr 2007 13:45:35 -0700, Joe wrote:

Joe and others who responded negatively to my initial post, a post I
wrote with genuine feelings for those young people whose lives were so
needlessly cut short and for those of their friends and relations who
will never forget this day and for whom part of them has died with
the loss of their loved ones.

Just how illogical and ridiculous can you be to draw such conclusions
as:

From Wikpedia
As of 2005, approximately 22 million or 46.5% of the South Korean
population express no religious preference.[26] Of the remainder, 10.7
million are Buddhist, 8.6 million are Protestant, 5.1 million are
Catholic, and less than half a million belong to various minor
religions including Jeungsando and Wonbuddhism.

I think Peter is trying to take the heat off the murdering Islamic
Jihadist that clearly use religion as a tool to con brain dead retards
into blowing themselves up and murdering scores of people in the name
of Allah.

Joe

If you knew anything about history and had ever bothered to learn
anything about Islam other than that promulgated by your press then
you would know that it is expressly forbidden to kill non-combatants
for any reason. The misguided who "blow themselves up" are offending
Islamic doctrine by killing innocent unarmed people.

So that I am not accused of
A: not knowing anything about American history, and
B: forwarding a supposed political agenda when in reality I believe
that "Flags tend to be cloaks that disguise a number of prejudices and
emotions" and belong to no political camp other than perhaps humanism,
I shall quote from Anerican literature to support my claim of your
ignorance.

" Americans are too broadly underinformed to digest nuggets of
information that seem to contradict what they know of the world ...
Instead, news channels prefer to feed Americans a constant stream of
simplified information, all of which fits what they already know. That
way they don't have to devote more air time or newsprint space to
explanations or further investigations."
Tom Fenton, former CBS foreign correspondent

"Politicians and the media have conspired to infantilize, to dumb
down, the American public. At heart, politicians don't believe that
Americans can handle complex truths, and the news media, especially
television news, basically agrees."
Tom Fenton, former CBS foreign correspondent

"Television is altering the meaning of "being informed" by creating a
species of information that might properly be called disinformation...
Disinformation does not mean false information. It means misleading
information - misplaced, irrelevant, fragmented or superficial
information - information that creates the illusion of knowing
something, but which in fact leads one away from knowing."
Neil Postman

As to the gentleman who commented about my supposed lack of sympathy
for Iraqi children, just how can you draw that conclusion? How
absolutely pathetic and unintelligent as is the gentleman who
suggested I was trying to "take the heat off Islam". I have never
mentioned, for example, my anger at the over 200 Cambodian children
who are killed and miamed each year by landmines with U.S. labels on
them that "were never dropped in that country" and which international
groups are trying to inactivate. To what point in this newsgroup? I am
not anti-American, far from it and do not wish to seem so.

I have never mentioned the Iraqi war apart from my annoyance at
Coalition task forces ( all ships were American) threatening to fire
upon my yacht and family in international waters in the Mediterranean
and Red Seas. I could do so - again from your own literature which I
have read extensively, both fiction and other so that you may see
that I possibly know a little more about your country than you give me
credit for:

"fascism - A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the
extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business
leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."
The American Heritage Dictionary, 1983

"All democracies turn into dictatorships - but not by coup. The people
give their democracy to a dictator, whether it's Julius Caesar or
Napoleon or Adolf Hitler. Ultimately, the general population goes
along with the idea... That's the issue that I've been exploring: How
did the Republic turn into the Empire ... and how does a democracy
become a dictatorship? "
Star Wars filmmaker George Lucas

"Why of course the people don't want war... That is understood. But
after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy,
and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it
is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a
communist dictatorship ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be
brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to
do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists
for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Hermann Goering - German of course.

"This [the U.S. Constitution] is likely to be administered for a
course of years and then end in despotism... when the people shall
become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of
any other."
Benjamin Franklin


As to your quiet aquiesence to the Patriot Act, much of which
legislation will be retained in some form regardless of political
speak - no government gives up power willingly; none other that Thomas
Jefferson wrote - "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to
gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."

"They wrote in the old days that it is sweet and fitting to die for
one's country. But in modern war there is nothing sweet or fitting in
your dying. You will die like a dog for no good reason."
Ernest Hemingway

One of the great attractions of patriotism-it fulfils our worst
wishes. In the person of our nation we are able, vicariously, to bully
and to cheat. Bully and cheat, what's more, with a feeling that we are
profoundly virtuous. Aldous Huxley (1894 - 1963) - English

The propagandist's purpose is to make one set of people forget that
certain other sets of people are human. Aldous Huxley (1894 - 1963)
(- such as Moslems - sic) - English

The gregariousness of men is their most contemptible and discouraging
aspect. See how they follow each other like sheep, not knowing why.
--Henry David Thoreau

It is my experience that most of your countrymen and women have never
read a single document written by your founding fathers, and even less
have read much of your literature by writers such as Clemens, O Henry,
Ambrose Bierce, Thoreau, Hemingway, Steinbeck and so on. It is people
from other nations such as Germans and Japanese that I can have
discussions with on these authors, seldom American (I exclude my
American diver friend, Jack Curley here).

Thus
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; It wastes your time and annoys the
pig." -- Mark Twain - one of my favourite authors and philosophers

Ever so kindest regards
Peter

* NE Sailboat wrote, On 4/17/2007 3:47 PM:
Boston eh?

You got a killing every other day in the Black neighborhoods of Boston.
Recently, one Black girl was shot in the middle of the day.

I see you still have trouble with basic math. I even gave you the
exact numbers a few months ago, but apparently it is beyond your
comprehension. Its true that Boston is in the midst of a major murder
spree, but the number is more like 70 murders a year. While this is
clearly high for the state, it is actually fairly low compared to
similar cities. Also, only about half of these are in the so called
"Black neighborhoods," so the gang related murders are less than one a
week.

Massachusetts, of course, has a very low murder rate compared to the
rest of the country. The city I live in is rated as the safest city
in the country.


Ever see any of the yachtsman here post about that? Nope,, can't be
bothered.

None of the the yachtsmen bring up that point. You, on the other hand
seem obsessed about it; this is the second time this year you've
blatantly misrepresented the truth.

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
Pretty
moronic, wouldn't you say? I know Joe has a big issue with gay people.
Maybe he
could use his same approach to solve his "gay problem" by being a
bigger gay?

CWM

Joe is smart enough to realize there's only room for one big gay in this
group and Jonathan Ganz has got that position by default.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Apr 17, 5:58 pm, Peter Hendra wrote:
On 17 Apr 2007 13:45:35 -0700, Joe wrote:

Joe and others who responded negatively to my initial post, a post I
wrote with genuine feelings for those young people whose lives were so
needlessly cut short and for those of their friends and relations who
will never forget this day and for whom part of them has died with
the loss of their loved ones.

Just how illogical and ridiculous can you be to draw such conclusions
as:

From Wikpedia
As of 2005, approximately 22 million or 46.5% of the South Korean
population express no religious preference.[26] Of the remainder, 10.7
million are Buddhist, 8.6 million are Protestant, 5.1 million are
Catholic, and less than half a million belong to various minor
religions including Jeungsando and Wonbuddhism.

I think Peter is trying to take the heat off the murdering Islamic
Jihadist that clearly use religion as a tool to con brain dead retards
into blowing themselves up and murdering scores of people in the name
of Allah.

Joe

If you knew anything about history and had ever bothered to learn
anything about Islam other than that promulgated by your press then
you would know that it is expressly forbidden to kill non-combatants
for any reason. The misguided who "blow themselves up" are offending
Islamic doctrine by killing innocent unarmed people.

So that I am not accused of
A: not knowing anything about American history, and
B: forwarding a supposed political agenda when in reality I believe
that "Flags tend to be cloaks that disguise a number of prejudices and
emotions" and belong to no political camp other than perhaps humanism,
I shall quote from Anerican literature to support my claim of your
ignorance.

" Americans are too broadly underinformed to digest nuggets of
information that seem to contradict what they know of the world ...
Instead, news channels prefer to feed Americans a constant stream of
simplified information, all of which fits what they already know. That
way they don't have to devote more air time or newsprint space to
explanations or further investigations."
Tom Fenton, former CBS foreign correspondent

"Politicians and the media have conspired to infantilize, to dumb
down, the American public. At heart, politicians don't believe that
Americans can handle complex truths, and the news media, especially
television news, basically agrees."
Tom Fenton, former CBS foreign correspondent

"Television is altering the meaning of "being informed" by creating a
species of information that might properly be called disinformation...
Disinformation does not mean false information. It means misleading
information - misplaced, irrelevant, fragmented or superficial
information - information that creates the illusion of knowing
something, but which in fact leads one away from knowing."
Neil Postman

As to the gentleman who commented about my supposed lack of sympathy
for Iraqi children, just how can you draw that conclusion? How
absolutely pathetic and unintelligent as is the gentleman who
suggested I was trying to "take the heat off Islam". I have never
mentioned, for example, my anger at the over 200 Cambodian children
who are killed and miamed each year by landmines with U.S. labels on
them that "were never dropped in that country" and which international
groups are trying to inactivate. To what point in this newsgroup? I am
not anti-American, far from it and do not wish to seem so.

I have never mentioned the Iraqi war apart from my annoyance at
Coalition task forces ( all ships were American) threatening to fire
upon my yacht and family in international waters in the Mediterranean
and Red Seas. I could do so - again from your own literature which I
have read extensively, both fiction and other so that you may see
that I possibly know a little more about your country than you give me
credit for:

"fascism - A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the
extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business
leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."
The American Heritage Dictionary, 1983

"All democracies turn into dictatorships - but not by coup. The people
give their democracy to a dictator, whether it's Julius Caesar or
Napoleon or Adolf Hitler. Ultimately, the general population goes
along with the idea... That's the issue that I've been exploring: How
did the Republic turn into the Empire ... and how does a democracy
become a dictatorship? "
Star Wars filmmaker George Lucas

"Why of course the people don't want war... That is understood. But
after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy,
and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it
is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a
communist dictatorship ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be
brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to
do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists
for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Hermann Goering - German of course.

"This [the U.S. Constitution] is likely to be administered for a
course of years and then end in despotism... when the people shall
become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of
any other."
Benjamin Franklin

As to your quiet aquiesence to the Patriot Act, much of which
legislation will be retained in some form regardless of political
speak - no government gives up power willingly; none other that Thomas
Jefferson wrote - "Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to
gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."

"They wrote in the old days that it is sweet and fitting to die for
one's country. But in modern war there is nothing sweet or fitting in
your dying. You will die like a dog for no good reason."
Ernest Hemingway

One of the great attractions of patriotism-it fulfils our worst
wishes. In the person of our nation we are able, vicariously, to bully
and to cheat. Bully and cheat, what's more, with a feeling that we are
profoundly virtuous. Aldous Huxley (1894 - 1963) - English

The propagandist's purpose is to make one set of people forget that
certain other sets of people are human. Aldous Huxley (1894 - 1963)
(- such as Moslems - sic) - English

The gregariousness of men is their most contemptible and discouraging
aspect. See how they follow each other like sheep, not knowing why.
--Henry David Thoreau

It is my experience that most of your countrymen and women have never
read a single document written by your founding fathers, and even less
have read much of your literature by writers such as Clemens, O Henry,
Ambrose Bierce, Thoreau, Hemingway, Steinbeck and so on. It is people
from other nations such as Germans and Japanese that I can have
discussions with on these authors, seldom American (I exclude my
American diver friend, Jack Curley here).

Thus
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; It wastes your time and annoys the
pig." -- Mark Twain - one of my favourite authors and philosophers

Ever so kindest regards
Peter

Peter if you truly wanted to say you were sad about the situation at
VT then you would have said that. Instead you took a jab a
"Christians" calling them terrorist. Then you went into a gun control
rant.


And sum ov us dumb merkins hve red buks 2

Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far
more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting
moment.
Ben Franklin

Do not be too moral. You may cheat yourself out of much life. Aim
above morality. Be not simply good; be good for something.
Henry David Thoreau

Never send to know, for whom the bell tolls, for the bell tolls for
thee
Hemingway

Relating to your post:
Folly is often more cruel in the consequences than malice can be in
the intent.
Aldous Huxley

As far a Thomas Jefferson goes do you think he wrote "Those who desire
to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do
they deserve, either one." before or after he was raping one of his
slaves?

Lucas of star war fame...Sheeeze

And you never mentioned that this week SANAA, 11 April 2007 (IRIN) -
SANAA, 11 April 2007 (IRIN) - The humanitarian situation in Yemen's
northern province of Saada is worsening with reports that the army is
laying anti-personnel mines in the area, say sources with access to
the region. At the Saudi-built al-Salaam Hospital in Saada city, at
least 60 people have been admitted to the hospital in recent weeks
with injuries caused by landmine explosions.

Not Merkin landmines Peter...You must be so dis-appointed.

BTW have you read anything the islamist jihad terrorist post on Al
Jezeer.
Would you like some quotes of how they have warped Islam so they can
use it to their advantage to murder more "infidels"

Even Kinder regards

Joe

On Apr 17, 6:56 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message

...

Pretty
moronic, wouldn't you say? I know Joe has a big issue with gay people.
Maybe he
could use his same approach to solve his "gay problem" by being a
bigger gay?

CWM

Joe is smart enough to realize there's only room for one big gay in this
group and Jonathan Ganz has got that position by default.

Wilbur Hubbard

BB the guy who wish Ol Thom's death,. and now cowering behind the name
Charlie Morgan is gayer than Ganz.

He's to much of a coward to say anything without hiding behind a
skirt.
BB's top's the gay chart, if you saw his fat ugly cow of a wife you
would know why.

Joe

As of April 8. Jeff.

ps.. my point isn't that Boston is a dangerous place, it is that the liberal
crowd will use the VT Tech

murders for political gain.



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April 08, 2007

Teen charged with shooting other teen to death
3146 Washington St.
05:04
Enrique Baez, 17, of Jamaica Plain, charged with manslaughter in the death
of Cheyenne Baez (no relation), 19, pronounced dead at a local hospital....
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March 30, 2007

Randolph man shot to death
69 McLellan St.
19:03
James Jacobs, 27, of Randolph, found with multiple gunshot wounds;
pronounced dead at BMC....
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Shot to death on T bus
Washington Street and Columbia Road
15:03
Dwayne Graham, 18, of Hyde Park, shot in the head; one suspect sought....
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March 28, 2007

Man shot to death
870 Blue Hill Ave.
17:03
James Williams, 24, of Dorchester, taken to Boston Medical Center with
multiple gunshot wounds, pronounced dead....
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March 24, 2007

Woman shot to death
Geneva Ave. and Westville St.
03:03
Chiara Levin, 22, of Danville, Ky., pronounced dead at Boston Medical
Center; shooting occurred outside a late-night party. Police do not think
Levin was the intended victim. Man in car also shot; not seriously....
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March 14, 2007

Gunned down in broad daylight
Centre and Highland streets
15:03
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Medical Center but died in surgery....
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March 11, 2007

Man stabbed to death in fight
21 Castle Ct.
22:03
John A. Austin, 24, stabbed in the chest, pronounced dead at Boston Medical
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3529 Washington St.
19:03
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March 09, 2007

Teen shot to death
72 Olney St.
13:03
Quinntessa Blackwell, 18, transported to Boston Medical Center, where she
was pronounced dead....
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February 27, 2007

Man shot to death
63 Armandine St.
21:02
Jova Guidroz, 27, of Dorchester, pronounced dead at the scene....
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February 21, 2007

Shot to death
Columbia Road and Devon Street
15:02
Victim, Andrew Keith, 22, pronounced dead at the scene....
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February 18, 2007

Shot to death
Beaver and Cleveland streets
21:02
Man taken to Beth Israel, where he was declared dead....
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February 13, 2007

Two arrested in fatal drive-by triple shooting
39 Maywood St.
18:02
Roxbury and Hyde Park men arrested in connection with the shooting, which
left one dead, two with gunshot wounds and a fourth man with injuries from
his attempt to escape the bullets....
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February 08, 2007

Man shot to death
651 Warren St.
03:02
Tyrice Brown, 18, of Roxbury, taken to BMC; pronounced dead....
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February 07, 2007

Body found dumped at cemetery
399 Walk Hill St.
06:02
Damien Lackland, 25, apparently shot elsewhere; body left at Mt. Hope
Cemetery....
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January 27, 2007

Man found shot to death
57 Dewey St.
13:01
Pronounced dead at the scene. Victim, Warren Daniel Hairston, 21, of
Roxbury, had been reported missing several days earlier....
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January 12, 2007

Teen shot to death near Jackson Square T stop
940 Parker St.
19:01
Taken to Boston Medical Center with serious injuries; pronounced dead....
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January 01, 2007

14-year old first murder victim of year
Clarkson Street
05:01
Apparently shot due to events at a party; second victim reported in critical
condition....
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December 31, 2006

Shot to death near South Station
Beach and South streets
16:12
Cushings Fortuna, 20, of Hyde Park, 74th and last homicide victim of 2006.
Found with multiple gunshot wounds....
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December 26, 2006

Man shot repeatedly; dies
77 Monument St.
17:12
Taken to Mass. General, where he was pronounced dead....
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December 22, 2006

14-year old shot to death
631 Cummins Highway
18:12
Two teens shot; one pronounced dead from a gunshot wound to the chest, the
other is expected to live....
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December 05, 2006

Double shooting; one dead
91 Florida St.
21:12
One victim pronounced at the scene; other taken to Boston Medical Center in
serious condition....
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November 28, 2006

Double shooting; one dead
56 Holworthy St.
19:11
Both victims brought to Boston Medical Center; one pronounced dead, the
other expected to live....
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November 26, 2006

Party proves deadly
67 Milton Ave.
03:11
Five shot, one fatally, during a fight outside a party. The dead man was 18;
the other victims ranged in age from 14 to 17....
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Stabbed on Lansdowne Street
13 Lansdowne St.
02:11
Craig Vierra, 31, taken to Boston Medical Center, where he died. Natick man
arrested....
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November 18, 2006

Woman stabbed to death
Dudley and Kenilworth streets
02:11
Stabbed in stomach; taken to Boston Medical Center, where she died....
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November 12, 2006

Shot to death
32 W. 7th St.
03:11
Willie Reynoso, 29, of South Boston, pronounced dead at Boston Medical
Center....
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November 07, 2006

Two men shot; one dies
11 Hamlet St.
21:11
One pronounced dead at the scene; the other taken to a local hospital in
critical condition....
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November 04, 2006

Shot to death
36 Georgia St.
00:11
Victim pronounced dead at the scene of a gunshot wound....
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November 02, 2006

Domestic dispute turns fatal
75 Armandine St.
09:11
Niles J. Reavis, 41, of Dorchester, to be charged with the murder of Sandra
Reavis, 39, of Dorchester....
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October 28, 2006

Dismembered body found in two neighborhoods
95 Hollingsworth St.
16:10
Brian Lee accused of killing, dismembering his father, then dumping his
head, arms and legs in Roxbury....
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October 26, 2006

Stabbed to death
177 Harold St.
20:10
Man pronounced dead at the scene....
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October 22, 2006

Multiple gunshot wounds prove fatal
3118 Washington St.
00:10
Man found in rear of building; taken to Brigham and Women's Hospital,
pronounced dead....
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October 16, 2006

Man found shot to death in car
Fox Street and Mt. Ida Road
23:10
Victim pronounced dead at the scene....
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October 14, 2006

Man shot, killed
225 Bowdoin St.
00:10
Man, 23, found with multiple gunshot wounds to the chest. Taken to Boston
Medical Center, pronounced dead....
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October 13, 2006

Shot to death
42 Stanwood St.
01:10
Male, shot in head, pronounced dead at Boston Medical Center....
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October 12, 2006

Stabbed to death outside a pizza place
1282 Hyde Park Ave.
21:10
Staggered inside Piece of Pizza following dispute between him and
suspect....
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October 11, 2006

Shot to death
10 Wood Ave.
23:10
Man reported shot at 10 Wood Ave. Found at Harvard Street and Cummins
Highway; taken to Brigham and Women's, where he was pronounced dead....
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September 30, 2006

Teen found shot to death
22 Howe St.
00:09
Male, 17, found with multiple gunshot wounds; pronounced dead at Boston
Medical Center....
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September 16, 2006

Man found fatally wounded in crashed car
Regent and Akron streets
00:09
Eddie Rowell, 21, of Dorchester, found in car that had just crashed. Taken
to Boston Medical Center; pronounced dead....
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September 15, 2006

Westin worker stabs another employee to death
10 Huntington Ave.
16:09
Ivan Sosa, 37, charged with murder in employee area near Turner
Fisheries....
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September 13, 2006

Shot to death
Crestwood Park and Townsend St.
23:09
Victim taken to Boston Medical Center and later pronounced dead....
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September 08, 2006

Shot to death
28 Seaver St.
10:09
Man pronounced dead at the scene....
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August 31, 2006

Man shot to death during argument
1502 River St.
10:08
More details from the Globe.
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August 21, 2006

Floating body found
140 Northern Ave.
08:08
Body of black male with no visible signs of trauma found. Being investigated
by the homicide unit....
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August 01, 2006

Two shot; one dead
156 Washington St.
00:08
Chucuma Omar Browning, 17, of Dorchester, pronounced dead. Second victim
expected to live....
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July 27, 2006

Man shot to death
242 E. 9th St.
00:07
Man, 24, pronounced dead at Boston Medical Center....
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July 25, 2006

Man shot to death
128 Intervale St.
23:07
Vernon Cobb, 21, pronounced dead at local hospital....
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July 22, 2006

Woman murdered at same spot her brother was killed
39 Annunciation Rd.
23:07
Analicia Perry, 20, shot in head at street memorial for her brother, killed
there four years earlier....
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July 21, 2006

Triple shooting leaves one dead
1921 Dorchester Ave.
01:07
Three men in their 20s found with gunshot wounds; one pronounced dead, the
others in critical condition....
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July 19, 2006

Man shot to death in front of childhood home
Woolson St.
11:07
Man not identified by police....
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July 16, 2006

Man shot to death
90 Ames St.
17:07
Man found with gunshot wound; pronounced dead at Boston Medical Center....
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July 15, 2006

Man shot to death
34 Danube St.
23:07
Taken to Boston Medical Center, pronounced dead....
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Death investigated as homicide
15 Park Dr.
09:07
White male, found dead of unknown causes....
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July 12, 2006

Teen shot to death
194 Humboldt Ave.
18:07
Herman Taylor III, 18, of Roxbury shot multiple times....
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July 03, 2006

Possible murder in Franklin Park
Glen Lane
09:07
Coroner, homicide detectives investigating how a man ended up dead at the
rear service entrance of the Franklin Park Zoo....
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June 26, 2006

Toddler beaten to death
16 Westwind Rd.
21:06
Boy, 23 months, taken to Boston Medical Center in cardiac arrest; pronounced
dead. Cause of death ruled blunt trauma. Time not given in police report....
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June 25, 2006

Teen shot to death
Shawmut Ave. and Dwight St.
23:06
Two juveniles held; victim, 19, pronounced dead at Boston Medical Center....
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June 24, 2006

Man dies from multiple gunshot wounds
6 Tebroc St.
22:06
Taken to Boston Medical Center; pronounced dead....
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June 22, 2006

Stabbed to death
72 Cheney St.
07:06
Autopsy revealed male found dead had been stabbed. No indication the man,
white, had any connection to the address....
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June 19, 2006

Stabbing near Faneuil Hall turns fatal
Congress and North streets
16:06
Victim taken to Massachusetts General Hospital, pronounced dead....
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June 16, 2006

Man found in car, shot to death
1 Rosa St.
00:06
Man found inside motor vehicle, suffering from multiple gunshot wounds.
Taken to local hospital, pronounced dead....
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June 12, 2006

Woman shot to death while sitting on front steps
6 Owencroft St.
22:06
Nhuan Nygyun, 18, taken to Boston Medical Center, pronounced dead....
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Man stabbed to death
Washington Street near Melville Avenue
20:06
James Green, 28, of Dorchester, taken to Boston Medical Center, where he was
pronounced dead....
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June 11, 2006

Triple shooting leaves one dead
1000 Blue Hill Ave.
01:06
Shooting at the Caribbean Culture Center. One man pronounced dead at
scene....
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June 07, 2006

Two shot to death
189 Bowdoin St.
13:06
Both found with multiple gunshot wounds; taken to Boston Medical Center,
where they were pronounced dead....
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June 02, 2006

Death of homeless man considered murder
Causeway St.
22:06
Police are seeking help to identify the man found dead across from the
Garden....
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June 01, 2006

Sister charged with stabbing brother to death
34 Mallon Rd.
21:06
Kathy Booth, 42, charged with murdering Keith Payne, 44, of Dorchester....
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May 26, 2006

Shot to death
Magnolia and Woodford streets
18:05
Victim taken to Boston Medical Center, where he died....
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May 18, 2006

Man shot to death
29 W. Tremlett St.
10:05
Allen McNeal, 32, found shot in hallway. Taken to Boston Medical Center,
where he died at 3:07 a.m....
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May 06, 2006

Man shot to death
13 Wendover St.
22:05
Alex Mendes, 24, pronounced dead at Boston Medical Center....
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Shot to death
190 Hamilton St.
02:05
Police find man on ground; taken to Boston Medical Center where he was
pronounced dead....
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May 05, 2006

Shot to death
6 Carmen St.
20:05
Wellington Demaisonet, 30, discovered in alley with gunshot wounds to the
head. Pronounced dead at the scene....
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May 04, 2006

Multiple gunshot wounds prove fatal
River and Thorn streets
22:05
Steven Sydney, 22, of Milton, pronounced dead at Boston Medical Center....
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May 03, 2006

Man stabbed to death
School St. and Champlain Circle
00:05
Marcus Heard, 32, got himself to Carney Hospital with stab wounds, then died
in the ER....
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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* NE Sailboat wrote, On 4/17/2007 3:47 PM:
Boston eh?

You got a killing every other day in the Black neighborhoods of Boston.
Recently, one Black girl was shot in the middle of the day.

I see you still have trouble with basic math. I even gave you the exact
numbers a few months ago, but apparently it is beyond your comprehension.
Its true that Boston is in the midst of a major murder spree, but the
number is more like 70 murders a year. While this is clearly high for the
state, it is actually fairly low compared to similar cities. Also, only
about half of these are in the so called "Black neighborhoods," so the
gang related murders are less than one a week.

Massachusetts, of course, has a very low murder rate compared to the rest
of the country. The city I live in is rated as the safest city in the
country.


Ever see any of the yachtsman here post about that? Nope,, can't be
bothered.

None of the the yachtsmen bring up that point. You, on the other hand
seem obsessed about it; this is the second time this year you've blatantly
misrepresented the truth.

TOKYO - The mayor of the Japanese city of Nagasaki was shot to death in a
brazen attack Tuesday by an organized crime chief apparently enraged that
the city refused to compensate him after his car was damaged at a public
works construction site, news agencies reported.

The shooting was rare in a country where handguns are strictly banned and
only four politicians are known to have been killed since World War II.
Mayor Iccho Ito, 61, was shot twice in the back at point-blank range outside
a train station Tuesday evening, Nagasaki police official Rumi Tsujimoto
said.

One of the bullets struck the mayor's heart and he went into cardiac arrest,
according to Nagasaki University Hospital spokesman Kenzo Kusano. Kyodo News
agency and national broadcaster NHK said Ito died of his wounds early
Wednesday.

Tetsuya Shiroo, a senior member of Yamaguchi-gumi, Japan's largest organized
crime syndicate, was wrestled to the ground by officers after the attack and
arrested for attempted murder, police said.

He later admitted to shooting Ito with a handgun with the intent to kill,
Nagasaki chief investigator Kazuki Umebayashi said at a news conference.

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe called for a "rigorous investigation."

It was the second attack in the last 20 years against a mayor of Nagasaki,
which was destroyed by a U.S. atomic bomb in 1945 and whose leaders have
actively campaigned against militarism.

In 1990, Mayor Hitoshi Motoshima was shot and seriously wounded after saying
that Japan's emperor, beloved by rightists, bore some responsibility for
World War II.

Tuesday's attack appeared to involve a more trivial matter, however.

Shiroo reportedly clashed with Nagasaki city officials in 2003 after his car
was damaged when he drove into a hole at a public works site. He tried
unsuccessfully to get compensation from the city after his insurance company
refused to pay up, according to Japanese broadcaster NHK.

Shiroo also sent a letter to broadcaster TV Asahi to protest recent money
scandals linked to Ito, including hidden accounts and public works
contracts, Kyodo reported.

Backed by the ruling Liberal Democratic Party, Ito was campaigning for his
fourth term in office before Sunday's elections. He was an active figure in
the movement against nuclear proliferation, heading a coalition of Japanese
cities calling for the elimination of nuclear weapons.

"Mayor Ito had a strong and boundless passion for peace," said Sunao Tsuboi,
leader of a survivors' group based in Hiroshima, a city also flattened by a
U.S. atomic bomb in 1945. "We all pray for his recovery."

Commonly known as yakuza, Japan's organized crime groups are typically
involved in real estate and construction kickback schemes, extortion,
gambling, the sex industry, gunrunning and drug trafficking.

The yakuza also have had a long-standing political alliance with right-wing
nationalists in Japan, although authorities did not indicate that Tuesday's
attack was politically motivated.

Organized crime groups are behind most shootings in Japan, with two-thirds
of the country's 53 known shootings last year being gang-related, according
to the National Police Agency. Police estimate there are about 84,500
gangsters across Japan.

Attacks on politicians in post-war Japan are extremely rare.

In 1960, Socialist leader Inejiro Asanuma was killed in an attack by a
sword-wielding 17-year-old that riveted the nation.

In 2002, a ruling party politician was fatally stabbed in a dispute over
political funds. In the 1990s, a Liberal Democrat lawmaker was killed at his
home by his daughter and an opposition lawmaker was stabbed to death by a
mental patient.

Last year, a right-wing extremist burned down the house of ruling party
lawmaker Koichi Kato after the politician criticized then-Prime Minister
Junichiro Koizumi's pilgrimage to a controversial Tokyo war shrine. No one
was home at the time.

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* NE Sailboat wrote, On 4/17/2007 3:47 PM:
Boston eh?

You got a killing every other day in the Black neighborhoods of Boston.
Recently, one Black girl was shot in the middle of the day.

I see you still have trouble with basic math. I even gave you the exact
numbers a few months ago, but apparently it is beyond your comprehension.
Its true that Boston is in the midst of a major murder spree, but the
number is more like 70 murders a year. While this is clearly high for the
state, it is actually fairly low compared to similar cities. Also, only
about half of these are in the so called "Black neighborhoods," so the
gang related murders are less than one a week.

Massachusetts, of course, has a very low murder rate compared to the rest
of the country. The city I live in is rated as the safest city in the
country.


Ever see any of the yachtsman here post about that? Nope,, can't be
bothered.

None of the the yachtsmen bring up that point. You, on the other hand
seem obsessed about it; this is the second time this year you've blatantly
misrepresented the truth.

Peter,

Ignore NE and Joe. They are the true enemies of the USA. They do not believe in
the real principles upon which the USA was founded, and they do not belive in
the basic goodness of mankind. They have no faith in the USA. Yes, there is a
problem of terrorism, but simple minded and uneducated people like NE and Joe
think the way to solve the problem is to become the bigger terrorist. Pretty
moronic, wouldn't you say? I know Joe has a big issue with gay people. Maybe he
could use his same approach to solve his "gay problem" by being a bigger gay?

CWM

Hi Charlie,
Thank you for your kind words.

No, I am never upset by people such as they, merely saddened as
healthy democracy needs dissent, questioning and left field views. I,
along with many other people in the world, strongly believe in the
principles that the USA was founded upon and realise that it was a
lot more than just annoyance at having to pay a tax on tea to the
English Crown. What is fascinating was that there was a coming
together of thinking people who genuinely wanted to make a difference
at a time when nothing like it had been achieved before. It wasn't a
grab for power and economic riches. Many of the founding fathers
writings had a huge impact on the French Revolution and more recently,
Ho Chi Min, and Sun Yat Sen of China.

One of my great enjoyments was to walk the red brick line of the
Freedom Trail in Boston with a friend and to stand before the statue
of Ben Franklin, a man who I have admired as a fascinating human being
since childhood. I had been invited to Cambridge to present a paper to
a computer conference, but spent more time in exploring Boston's
historical places than in listening to the other speakers. The
highlight of course was being on the US Constitution. I was so
euphoric that I left my daughter's expensive camera bag there (but
thankfully not the camera). Oh, I almost forgot the bronze equestrian
statue of General Hooker outside the Capitol building and the
bequeathal of his name to those professional ladies who are
entrepreneurial with their favours.

It would be disappointing if all of this were to come to naught as it
seems it must one day if the past history of other civilisations and
empires have anything to tell us. As I am in the mood for quoting,
Woodrow Wilson, who I believe was previously a professor of history at
Yale, said that what we learn from history is that we do not learn
from history.

A valid warning for these times and the "War on Terror" that has been
flashing into my mind for sometime comes from the German philosopher
Nietzsche "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the
process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an
abyss, the abyss also looks into you"

I'm right out of pertinent quotes. I'll probably remember some more
halfway up my mast where I can't make notes with a pen. I have
repainted my mast and am in the process of completely renewing my
rigging. I've thankfully finished repainting the hull in this terrible
heat. The locals have gotten used to my sarong which is the only
sensible apparel besides nakedness in this climate.

regards
Peter

Peter Hendra wrote:

bunch of snipped stuff

Thus
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; It wastes your time and annoys the
pig." -- Mark Twain - one of my favourite authors and philosophers

Ever so kindest regards
Peter

Peter,

You thus dismiss all arguments in response to your
original post eh? Usually you are more thoughtful
and at least try to communicate and understand the
other posters points.

If pressed you will find that others here are also
well read and can find historically popular
figures to quote as well. You don't even have to
read the entire reference works as there are books
full of quotes from notable figures to be taken
easily by those wishing to make speeches.

As it happens, my family lost blood in both the
parlimentarian upheaval in England, and (later)
the American revolutionary war. Our countries
founders had specific reasons for including the
1st amendment (freedom of speech), and 2nd
amendment (right to keep and bear arms) as well as
other rights in our constitution.

It may well be that the American political
experiment will end in tyranny and disaster like
so many political experiments before it, but I
doubt that you can safely conclude so or predict
the date of its demise. History will be the
ulitmate judge.

In the meantime, I wonder what other governments
are safe, and how long their citizens will
appreciate their general disarmament when the next
world upheaval bursts upon the scene. History
indicates it is just a matter of time.

Regards,

Don W.