Matt Colie wrote:

Two options:

1. Get his vehicle disabled while he is sailing so he is forced to
spend the night on the boat.

2. Buy a big roll of the world's cheapest duck(t) tape (the kind
that does not peel well and leaves lots of sticky residue when
removed) and tightly wrap the the halyards to the mast as high as
you can reach.

I like your suggestions, but it seems to me that they should only be carried
out by a well-armed individual.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com

"Don White" wrote in message ...
Ok...dumb question....
If one of your halyards does break..how would you thread a new one up
through the mast channels?

Parallax wrote in message
om...
Mnay ppl have complained about slapping of halyards and wires inside
their masts and are looking for solutions. Strangely, this has never
bothered me but I may have a solution.

Get several cans of that expanding foam (product name "Great Stuff").
Every 10' or so drill a tiny hole in the mast large enough for the
nozzle to fit. Push the nozzle in far enough to squirt a dab on the
opposite internal mast wall, on the side wall and opposite wall and
withdraw the nozzle to put a little just inside the hole. Allow it to
set. Push the nozzle through the dried foam at the hole till it is
above the four foam spots and inject enough to form a blob filling the
cross section at the mast. It will be held in place by the four
hardened blobs. Let it begin to set but work th halyards up and down
as it sets.

I have not tried this but might if the slap ever bothers me.

DBO

Maybe the reason halyard slap doesnt bother me is because it doesnt
happen with mine, dunno, cant rememeber.

BROKEN halyard, how likely is that? Still, as easy to replace as on
an externally mounted one. Climb mast with weighted fish line, drop
it through the top shieve, get it out at bottom, pull halyard through.
However, before I tried that, I'd try a plumbers or electrical snake.
It's stiff enouigh that I'm sure it would go vertically from the
bottom. I have used it horizontally on the boom for the internal
lines there.

"Don White" wrote in message ...
Ok...dumb question....
If one of your halyards does break..how would you thread a new one up
through the mast channels?

Parallax wrote in message
om...
Mnay ppl have complained about slapping of halyards and wires inside
their masts and are looking for solutions. Strangely, this has never
bothered me but I may have a solution.

Get several cans of that expanding foam (product name "Great Stuff").
Every 10' or so drill a tiny hole in the mast large enough for the
nozzle to fit. Push the nozzle in far enough to squirt a dab on the
opposite internal mast wall, on the side wall and opposite wall and
withdraw the nozzle to put a little just inside the hole. Allow it to
set. Push the nozzle through the dried foam at the hole till it is
above the four foam spots and inject enough to form a blob filling the
cross section at the mast. It will be held in place by the four
hardened blobs. Let it begin to set but work th halyards up and down
as it sets.

I have not tried this but might if the slap ever bothers me.

DBO

Maybe the reason halyard slap doesnt bother me is because it doesnt
happen with mine, dunno, cant rememeber.

BROKEN halyard, how likely is that? Still, as easy to replace as on
an externally mounted one. Climb mast with weighted fish line, drop
it through the top shieve, get it out at bottom, pull halyard through.
However, before I tried that, I'd try a plumbers or electrical snake.
It's stiff enouigh that I'm sure it would go vertically from the
bottom. I have used it horizontally on the boom for the internal
lines there.

Maybe you missed the point...he was talking about squirting the expanding
foam into the channel at various points.

Larry W4CSC wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:26:38 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

Ok...dumb question....
If one of your halyards does break..how would you thread a new one up
through the mast channels?

Er, ah, we use gravity and feed it DOWN from the top?


Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!

Maybe you missed the point...he was talking about squirting the expanding
foam into the channel at various points.

Larry W4CSC wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:26:38 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

Ok...dumb question....
If one of your halyards does break..how would you thread a new one up
through the mast channels?

Er, ah, we use gravity and feed it DOWN from the top?


Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 09:21:03 -0500, jake wrote:

The only real cure for this problem is cut the mast down.
There is a blowboat in the slip behind me that has a banging haylard. It
is so loud the whole marina knows which boat it is, the guy has been
asked to fix it, the dockmaster has retied it so it doesn't bang, many
times. Jerko goes out and reties it so it bangs.
A chain saw is the only anwser.
First, let me say that other peoples slapping halyards don't bother me
in the least. If one of *mine* starts slapping, it drives me nuts. So
much so that I'll crawl out of the rack in the middle of the night and
go up on deck in freezing rain to stop it.

Many years ago there was a guy in my marina with a bad case of slap
with wire halyards. "Tink" Tink" "Tink". 24/7. He refused to fix
it, saying; "It's music to my ears!" Not very neighborly. One night
someone cut his halyards and left them in piles on the deck. He had
to hire someone to run new ones. Years later, I learned that the guy
he hired was also the vandal (I use the word advisedly) who cut them.
A sorry affair all around, though not without its humorous aspects.

I leave you all with the sage advice of that wise philosopher, David
Lee Roth; "You're only as big as the things you let bug you.."

I have to close now as the owner of that sessile trawler 2 slips down
is "testing" his engines again, belching thick clouds of smoke and
ruining everyone's enjoyment of this fine Florida afternoon. I'm
going to West to buy the stuff to epoxy over his exhausts tonight.



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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 09:21:03 -0500, jake wrote:

The only real cure for this problem is cut the mast down.
There is a blowboat in the slip behind me that has a banging haylard. It
is so loud the whole marina knows which boat it is, the guy has been
asked to fix it, the dockmaster has retied it so it doesn't bang, many
times. Jerko goes out and reties it so it bangs.
A chain saw is the only anwser.
First, let me say that other peoples slapping halyards don't bother me
in the least. If one of *mine* starts slapping, it drives me nuts. So
much so that I'll crawl out of the rack in the middle of the night and
go up on deck in freezing rain to stop it.

Many years ago there was a guy in my marina with a bad case of slap
with wire halyards. "Tink" Tink" "Tink". 24/7. He refused to fix
it, saying; "It's music to my ears!" Not very neighborly. One night
someone cut his halyards and left them in piles on the deck. He had
to hire someone to run new ones. Years later, I learned that the guy
he hired was also the vandal (I use the word advisedly) who cut them.
A sorry affair all around, though not without its humorous aspects.

I leave you all with the sage advice of that wise philosopher, David
Lee Roth; "You're only as big as the things you let bug you.."

I have to close now as the owner of that sessile trawler 2 slips down
is "testing" his engines again, belching thick clouds of smoke and
ruining everyone's enjoyment of this fine Florida afternoon. I'm
going to West to buy the stuff to epoxy over his exhausts tonight.



__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:31:15 GMT, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:26:38 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

Ok...dumb question....
If one of your halyards does break..how would you thread a new one up
through the mast channels?


What mast channels? Have you ever used "Great Stuff"? It will give you
a whole new appreciation for the word "sticky". The idea that you can
keep the halyards running free by moving them up and down while the
foam expands and hardens is hilarious to contemplate. My guess is that
anyone who tries this stunt will be shopping for a complete new mast
to replace the ruined one.

BB

That does sound like a disaster waiting to happen I have been
haunted by things that go clang in the night. I suspect that most of
the noise has to do with the vhf antenna cable or the wind instrument
cable. My spar is fairly "bendy" and I can often reduce the noise by
putting a bit more tension on the backstay.



Parallax wrote in message
.com...
Mnay ppl have complained about slapping of halyards and wires inside
their masts and are looking for solutions. Strangely, this has never
bothered me but I may have a solution.

Get several cans of that expanding foam (product name "Great Stuff").
Every 10' or so drill a tiny hole in the mast large enough for the
nozzle to fit. Push the nozzle in far enough to squirt a dab on the
opposite internal mast wall, on the side wall and opposite wall and
withdraw the nozzle to put a little just inside the hole. Allow it to
set. Push the nozzle through the dried foam at the hole till it is
above the four foam spots and inject enough to form a blob filling the
cross section at the mast. It will be held in place by the four
hardened blobs. Let it begin to set but work th halyards up and down
as it sets.

I have not tried this but might if the slap ever bothers me.

DBO

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:31:15 GMT, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:26:38 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

Ok...dumb question....
If one of your halyards does break..how would you thread a new one up
through the mast channels?


What mast channels? Have you ever used "Great Stuff"? It will give you
a whole new appreciation for the word "sticky". The idea that you can
keep the halyards running free by moving them up and down while the
foam expands and hardens is hilarious to contemplate. My guess is that
anyone who tries this stunt will be shopping for a complete new mast
to replace the ruined one.

BB

That does sound like a disaster waiting to happen I have been
haunted by things that go clang in the night. I suspect that most of
the noise has to do with the vhf antenna cable or the wind instrument
cable. My spar is fairly "bendy" and I can often reduce the noise by
putting a bit more tension on the backstay.



Parallax wrote in message
.com...
Mnay ppl have complained about slapping of halyards and wires inside
their masts and are looking for solutions. Strangely, this has never
bothered me but I may have a solution.

Get several cans of that expanding foam (product name "Great Stuff").
Every 10' or so drill a tiny hole in the mast large enough for the
nozzle to fit. Push the nozzle in far enough to squirt a dab on the
opposite internal mast wall, on the side wall and opposite wall and
withdraw the nozzle to put a little just inside the hole. Allow it to
set. Push the nozzle through the dried foam at the hole till it is
above the four foam spots and inject enough to form a blob filling the
cross section at the mast. It will be held in place by the four
hardened blobs. Let it begin to set but work th halyards up and down
as it sets.

I have not tried this but might if the slap ever bothers me.

DBO

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"Armond Perretta" wrote:

Matt Colie wrote:

Two options:

1. Get his vehicle disabled while he is sailing so he is forced to
spend the night on the boat.

2. Buy a big roll of the world's cheapest duck(t) tape (the kind
that does not peel well and leaves lots of sticky residue when
removed) and tightly wrap the the halyards to the mast as high as
you can reach.

I like your suggestions, but it seems to me that they should only be carried
out by a well-armed individual.

How many arms would one have to be well armed? Six - like an insect,
or would one extra one be enough?

grandma Rosalie