Can anyone recommend a good online sailmaker? I need a new jib and have
gone into sticker shock from some quotes I've seen (haven't bought sails for
a looong time...).

I wondered if I could get a good quality product at a good price by mail
order or online ordering. I'm in the US but I hear there are some great
deals from international sailmakers who ship to the US. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance for any tips!

Dimitri

I got a good deal on a new full batten mainsail from a sail broker.

Bacon Sails http://www.baconsails.com/

They specialize in used sails but also have some new sails on consignment
from some sail lofts.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

I got a good deal on a new full batten mainsail from a sail broker.

Bacon Sails http://www.baconsails.com/

They specialize in used sails but also have some new sails on consignment
from some sail lofts.


Thanks Steve! I'll give them a call.

After searching the web I ran across three sailmakers in Hong Kong:

Lee Sails (http://www3.leesails.com/) ... I've heard of them as an OEM
supplier.

Hong Kong Sailmakers (http://www.hksailmakers.com/) ... a really
comprehensive site.

Sails East (http://www.sailseast.com/)

Anybody have experience dealing with the above?

Dimitri

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"Dimitri Rotow" wrote:


I got a good deal on a new full batten mainsail from a sail broker.

Bacon Sails http://www.baconsails.com/

They specialize in used sails but also have some new sails on consignment
from some sail lofts.

After searching the web I ran across three sailmakers in Hong Kong:

Lee Sails (http://www3.leesails.com/) ... I've heard of them as an OEM
supplier.

Hong Kong Sailmakers (http://www.hksailmakers.com/) ... a really
comprehensive site.

Sails East (http://www.sailseast.com/)

Anybody have experience dealing with the above?

Dimitri

Someone in our group quoted the following:

Over the course of four months I sent out 10 sets of basic specs and
received quotes from Calvert, Mack, Atlantic Sailtraders and
Supersailmakers in the US and Lee and Hong Kong overseas. The quotes
ranged from $7.5K to $10.5K. Sails ordered direct from overseas firms
are subject to about $1K in shipping, duty, and customs agent fees and
may require finishing full batten construction in the US. After
including all costs for equal sails the least expensive overseas sails
from Hong Kong were only about $1.2K less than Supersailmakers with a
slow season and commercial discount.


grandma Rosalie

I got a full batten main (including batten cars and battens) and a 130
genoa for a 40' Hunter from Lee sails delivered to Costa Rica
(September 2002) for a little under $3,400. The shipping (included in
the $3,400) was around $400. Lee prices customs charges in delivery
costs, although Costa Rica hit me up for additional charges, probably
not a problem in USA. The boat was delivered (sailed) from Costa
Rica to Guam via Hawaii, Majuro and Pohnepi with these sails last year
and the sails are still doing just fine. I recently priced a new 110%
genoa (the 130 is too much out here) for $1400 delivered ups.







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wrote:

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"Dimitri Rotow" wrote:


I got a good deal on a new full batten mainsail from a sail broker.

Bacon Sails http://www.baconsails.com/

They specialize in used sails but also have some new sails on consignment
from some sail lofts.

After searching the web I ran across three sailmakers in Hong Kong:

Lee Sails (http://www3.leesails.com/) ... I've heard of them as an OEM
supplier.

Hong Kong Sailmakers (http://www.hksailmakers.com/) ... a really
comprehensive site.

Sails East (http://www.sailseast.com/)

Anybody have experience dealing with the above?

Dimitri

Someone in our group quoted the following:

Over the course of four months I sent out 10 sets of basic specs and
received quotes from Calvert, Mack, Atlantic Sailtraders and
Supersailmakers in the US and Lee and Hong Kong overseas. The quotes
ranged from $7.5K to $10.5K. Sails ordered direct from overseas firms
are subject to about $1K in shipping, duty, and customs agent fees and
may require finishing full batten construction in the US. After
including all costs for equal sails the least expensive overseas sails
from Hong Kong were only about $1.2K less than Supersailmakers with a
slow season and commercial discount.


grandma Rosalie

I got a full batten main (including batten cars and battens) and a 130
genoa for a 40' Hunter from Lee sails delivered to Costa Rica
(September 2002) for a little under $3,400. The shipping (included in
the $3,400) was around $400. Lee prices customs charges in delivery
costs, although Costa Rica hit me up for additional charges, probably
not a problem in USA. The boat was delivered (sailed) from Costa
Rica to Guam via Hawaii, Majuro and Pohnepi with these sails last year
and the sails are still doing just fine. I recently priced a new 110%
genoa (the 130 is too much out here) for $1400 delivered ups.







On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 00:40:45 GMT, Rosalie B.
wrote:

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"Dimitri Rotow" wrote:


I got a good deal on a new full batten mainsail from a sail broker.

Bacon Sails http://www.baconsails.com/

They specialize in used sails but also have some new sails on consignment
from some sail lofts.

After searching the web I ran across three sailmakers in Hong Kong:

Lee Sails (http://www3.leesails.com/) ... I've heard of them as an OEM
supplier.

Hong Kong Sailmakers (http://www.hksailmakers.com/) ... a really
comprehensive site.

Sails East (http://www.sailseast.com/)

Anybody have experience dealing with the above?

Dimitri

Someone in our group quoted the following:

Over the course of four months I sent out 10 sets of basic specs and
received quotes from Calvert, Mack, Atlantic Sailtraders and
Supersailmakers in the US and Lee and Hong Kong overseas. The quotes
ranged from $7.5K to $10.5K. Sails ordered direct from overseas firms
are subject to about $1K in shipping, duty, and customs agent fees and
may require finishing full batten construction in the US. After
including all costs for equal sails the least expensive overseas sails
from Hong Kong were only about $1.2K less than Supersailmakers with a
slow season and commercial discount.


grandma Rosalie

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"Dimitri Rotow" wrote:


I got a good deal on a new full batten mainsail from a sail broker.

Bacon Sails http://www.baconsails.com/

They specialize in used sails but also have some new sails on consignment
from some sail lofts.

After searching the web I ran across three sailmakers in Hong Kong:

Lee Sails (http://www3.leesails.com/) ... I've heard of them as an OEM
supplier.

Hong Kong Sailmakers (http://www.hksailmakers.com/) ... a really
comprehensive site.

Sails East (http://www.sailseast.com/)

Anybody have experience dealing with the above?

Dimitri

Someone in our group quoted the following:

Over the course of four months I sent out 10 sets of basic specs and
received quotes from Calvert, Mack, Atlantic Sailtraders and
Supersailmakers in the US and Lee and Hong Kong overseas. The quotes
ranged from $7.5K to $10.5K. Sails ordered direct from overseas firms
are subject to about $1K in shipping, duty, and customs agent fees and
may require finishing full batten construction in the US. After
including all costs for equal sails the least expensive overseas sails
from Hong Kong were only about $1.2K less than Supersailmakers with a
slow season and commercial discount.


grandma Rosalie

I got a good deal on a new full batten mainsail from a sail broker.

Bacon Sails http://www.baconsails.com/

They specialize in used sails but also have some new sails on consignment
from some sail lofts.


Thanks Steve! I'll give them a call.

After searching the web I ran across three sailmakers in Hong Kong:

Lee Sails (http://www3.leesails.com/) ... I've heard of them as an OEM
supplier.

Hong Kong Sailmakers (http://www.hksailmakers.com/) ... a really
comprehensive site.

Sails East (http://www.sailseast.com/)

Anybody have experience dealing with the above?

Dimitri

Just another FWIW.

Some of the 'supposed' US sailmakers actually have the highly labor
intensive work done 'off shore'. In fact it is highly possible that the
entire sail will be made in Mexico and the Gringo sailmaker will just show
up for the measurements and finally fitting of the sail..

I took a sail into Doyle sails in San Diego to have a luff tape installed..
When I stopped back a couple days later to check on the progress, I found
out that it was in TJ. The sailmaker admitted that they did very little sail
work in SD. The loft was only used for inspecting sails and minor
work/adjustments.

I visited the Hood sail loft in Seattle and found that they didn't do any of
the sail making here. Just some repair and adjustments. They wouldn't say
where the actual work was done.

I don't suppose it really makes much difference as long as the sail is cut
and sewn correctly and good quality material is used..

BTW. I have had Lee Sails on several of my boats and never had any
complaint. If I we a racer or demanded high performance, then I might say
otherwise.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Mack Sails in Stuart Florida is an excellent sailmaker. They do quality work
in Florida and stand behind their product. I found their prices competative
with the offshore stuff and I got better quality and service. For what it
is worth. For those who have the Kmart mentality, I recommend getting some
Martha Stuart sheets ...hot glew them together....and bitch about the poor
service
"Steve" wrote in message
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Just another FWIW.

Some of the 'supposed' US sailmakers actually have the highly labor
intensive work done 'off shore'. In fact it is highly possible that the
entire sail will be made in Mexico and the Gringo sailmaker will just show
up for the measurements and finally fitting of the sail..

I took a sail into Doyle sails in San Diego to have a luff tape
installed..
When I stopped back a couple days later to check on the progress, I found
out that it was in TJ. The sailmaker admitted that they did very little
sail
work in SD. The loft was only used for inspecting sails and minor
work/adjustments.

I visited the Hood sail loft in Seattle and found that they didn't do any
of
the sail making here. Just some repair and adjustments. They wouldn't say
where the actual work was done.

I don't suppose it really makes much difference as long as the sail is cut
and sewn correctly and good quality material is used..

BTW. I have had Lee Sails on several of my boats and never had any
complaint. If I we a racer or demanded high performance, then I might say
otherwise.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions