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Good point. We sat down and came up with ours as a team and there has never
been a cross in our communications. The thumb up and down was a result of the direction of the shift lever. My suggestion would be to ask you wife what hand signals she wants to use for different anchoring tasks/commands. Then YOU memorize her signals. The signals she comes up with, she will recognize easier because the are more instinctive for her. Mark E. Willliams |
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Minimum signals, but other captain worked the anchor when it was
smaller so knows what needs to be accomplished. Almost all is done at idle speed unless severe conditions warrants more. Pointing direction of where anchor is, continue pointing if more power is warranted, hand palm facing back to confirm I want it in neutral, she usually has already put in neutral, thumb up when anchor is broken out, she can get under way at idle speed while cleaning anchor and until I leave foredeck. She knows that in crowded conditions, she has control of boat once thumb is up. Gary Schafer wrote in message . .. On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 21:42:59 GMT, wrote: Does anybody have a good system of hand signals for anchoring, i.e. a means for the person on the bow handling the anchor to communicate speed and direction to the helmsman without having to yell it out? This would be for my wife and I where she is typically at the helm while I am on the bow. She's not real experienced at the helm so a clear set of signals would be helpful, especially when retrieving the anchor with the wind up, crowded anchorage, etc. Thanks. Some people start out with hand signals and revert to well known finger signals. :) Regards Gary |
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Minimum signals, but other captain worked the anchor when it was
smaller so knows what needs to be accomplished. Almost all is done at idle speed unless severe conditions warrants more. Pointing direction of where anchor is, continue pointing if more power is warranted, hand palm facing back to confirm I want it in neutral, she usually has already put in neutral, thumb up when anchor is broken out, she can get under way at idle speed while cleaning anchor and until I leave foredeck. She knows that in crowded conditions, she has control of boat once thumb is up. Gary Schafer wrote in message . .. On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 21:42:59 GMT, wrote: Does anybody have a good system of hand signals for anchoring, i.e. a means for the person on the bow handling the anchor to communicate speed and direction to the helmsman without having to yell it out? This would be for my wife and I where she is typically at the helm while I am on the bow. She's not real experienced at the helm so a clear set of signals would be helpful, especially when retrieving the anchor with the wind up, crowded anchorage, etc. Thanks. Some people start out with hand signals and revert to well known finger signals. :) Regards Gary |
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Best suggestion I'veseen in a long while. And of course once you have an
agreed set of signals, you will practice the exercise a couple of times well away from everyone else ... That way you will stay friends. DF "Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message news ![]() On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 21:42:59 GMT, wrote: Does anybody have a good system of hand signals for anchoring, i.e. a means for the person on the bow handling the anchor to communicate speed and direction to the helmsman without having to yell it out? This would be for my wife and I where she is typically at the helm while I am on the bow. She's not real experienced at the helm so a clear set of signals would be helpful, especially when retrieving the anchor with the wind up, crowded anchorage, etc. Thanks. My suggestion would be to ask you wife what hand signals she wants to use for different anchoring tasks/commands. Then YOU memorize her signals. The signals she comes up with, she will recognize easier because the are more instinctive for her. Mark E. Willliams |
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"Jeff Morris" wrote: Get a pair of FRS radios with headsets. Your life will get much better when you can just have a simple conversation. Or, if you have two cell phones with free minutes on the weekends ... We tried this and it just did NOT work. Bob is a bit deaf and so am I and the FRS radio transmissions just weren't intelligible to us. wrote in message .. . Does anybody have a good system of hand signals for anchoring, i.e. a means for the person on the bow handling the anchor to communicate speed and direction to the helmsman without having to yell it out? This would be for my wife and I where she is typically at the helm while I am on the bow. She's not real experienced at the helm so a clear set of signals would be helpful, especially when retrieving the anchor with the wind up, crowded anchorage, etc. Thanks. This was us. Me at the helm, not experienced. Bob retrieving the anchor. He has learned two things: a) Don't anchor in a crowded place b) Explain to me face to face what he intends to do first so that the hand signals will make more sense. For anchoring, he says something like - I want to anchor about there (pointing) in 10 feet of water (or whatever depth he's decided on) and I want you to come into the wind. I sometimes call out (yell) the soundings to him as we motor in. For pulling the anchor, he will say something like - the anchor's dug in good (because he always retrieves most of the chain first to allow the boat to come up close to the anchor so he can tell that), and you will have to motor up into the wind for me to break it out. When the anchor is free, I want you to go out of the anchorage this way (and shows me by pointing) out to the red 17 marker and then down the channel. We have a MINIMUM of hand signals and we almost always use them more for pulling the anchor rather than anchoring. The hand signals are only 4 1) Go forward in a specified direction 2) Drop back to idle 3) Back up (mostly for anchoring to check that the anchor is set) 4) and mostly for pulling the anchor- The anchor is up - leave the anchorage 1) Point with whole arm and pointing finger means put the power on and steer in the direction he is pointing. Move arm up and down from the elbow pointing in a direction and looking irritated means go faster in that direction. As the boat swings, he continues pointing in the direction he wants the bow to go. 2) Move hand side to side quickly parallel to the water means go back to idle 3) Facing forward if he drops his hand back down to his side with the palm toward me and pushes the hand backwards a couple of times, that means back up. He may also turn and point backwards. This is usually to set the anchor. 4) Extended forefinger pointing and circling. These hand signals were not agreed on by me particularly because I would not have known what signals were needed - they just kind of evolved. I don't think you need anything elaborate and your wife doesn't have to come up with the signals for them to work. My main problem is with #1 - if there is wind or current, I have trouble holding a heading without swinging past it as it takes the boat some time to respond to the power and actually go in the direction I want it to go and then it goes on past before I get it corrected. So your wife should practice steering some without anchoring. It is helpful to have a rudder indicator on the autopilot because I can see which way the rudder is set. Before we had an autopilot, I put a piece of white tape on the wheel where the rudder was in the center. grandma Rosalie |
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"Jeff Morris" wrote: Get a pair of FRS radios with headsets. Your life will get much better when you can just have a simple conversation. Or, if you have two cell phones with free minutes on the weekends ... We tried this and it just did NOT work. Bob is a bit deaf and so am I and the FRS radio transmissions just weren't intelligible to us. wrote in message .. . Does anybody have a good system of hand signals for anchoring, i.e. a means for the person on the bow handling the anchor to communicate speed and direction to the helmsman without having to yell it out? This would be for my wife and I where she is typically at the helm while I am on the bow. She's not real experienced at the helm so a clear set of signals would be helpful, especially when retrieving the anchor with the wind up, crowded anchorage, etc. Thanks. This was us. Me at the helm, not experienced. Bob retrieving the anchor. He has learned two things: a) Don't anchor in a crowded place b) Explain to me face to face what he intends to do first so that the hand signals will make more sense. For anchoring, he says something like - I want to anchor about there (pointing) in 10 feet of water (or whatever depth he's decided on) and I want you to come into the wind. I sometimes call out (yell) the soundings to him as we motor in. For pulling the anchor, he will say something like - the anchor's dug in good (because he always retrieves most of the chain first to allow the boat to come up close to the anchor so he can tell that), and you will have to motor up into the wind for me to break it out. When the anchor is free, I want you to go out of the anchorage this way (and shows me by pointing) out to the red 17 marker and then down the channel. We have a MINIMUM of hand signals and we almost always use them more for pulling the anchor rather than anchoring. The hand signals are only 4 1) Go forward in a specified direction 2) Drop back to idle 3) Back up (mostly for anchoring to check that the anchor is set) 4) and mostly for pulling the anchor- The anchor is up - leave the anchorage 1) Point with whole arm and pointing finger means put the power on and steer in the direction he is pointing. Move arm up and down from the elbow pointing in a direction and looking irritated means go faster in that direction. As the boat swings, he continues pointing in the direction he wants the bow to go. 2) Move hand side to side quickly parallel to the water means go back to idle 3) Facing forward if he drops his hand back down to his side with the palm toward me and pushes the hand backwards a couple of times, that means back up. He may also turn and point backwards. This is usually to set the anchor. 4) Extended forefinger pointing and circling. These hand signals were not agreed on by me particularly because I would not have known what signals were needed - they just kind of evolved. I don't think you need anything elaborate and your wife doesn't have to come up with the signals for them to work. My main problem is with #1 - if there is wind or current, I have trouble holding a heading without swinging past it as it takes the boat some time to respond to the power and actually go in the direction I want it to go and then it goes on past before I get it corrected. So your wife should practice steering some without anchoring. It is helpful to have a rudder indicator on the autopilot because I can see which way the rudder is set. Before we had an autopilot, I put a piece of white tape on the wheel where the rudder was in the center. grandma Rosalie |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:17:56 -0500, "Bruce"
wrote: With your back to the driver : Steering signals 1. Arm straight to the right = steer to the right 2. Karat chop forward = steer straight 3. Arm 90 vertical = steer left 4. right index spinning in the air = anchor is up, steer on predetermined course Speed Signals 1. palm up with an upward movement = speed up 2. Palm down with downward movement = slow down 3. clenched fist = neutral 4. thumb up = forward gear idle speed 5. Thumb down = reverse gear idle speed 6. Slash index finger across throat = stop engine Great list. Quite intuitive I would add two. 1) Karate chop aft - steer straight back. Used after the anchor is on the bottom and you are starting lay out the rode. 2) Arm straight up - over the anchor, stop any way. Very useful when the anchor is buried deeply and you have to reverse to get the anchor out of the bottom. You can then cleat off and use the steer straight back signal. Jack __________________________________________________ Jack Dale Swiftsure Sailing Academy Director ISPA and CYA Instructor http://www.swiftsuresailing.com Phone: 1 (877) 470-SAIL (toll free) __________________________________________________ |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:17:56 -0500, "Bruce"
wrote: With your back to the driver : Steering signals 1. Arm straight to the right = steer to the right 2. Karat chop forward = steer straight 3. Arm 90 vertical = steer left 4. right index spinning in the air = anchor is up, steer on predetermined course Speed Signals 1. palm up with an upward movement = speed up 2. Palm down with downward movement = slow down 3. clenched fist = neutral 4. thumb up = forward gear idle speed 5. Thumb down = reverse gear idle speed 6. Slash index finger across throat = stop engine Great list. Quite intuitive I would add two. 1) Karate chop aft - steer straight back. Used after the anchor is on the bottom and you are starting lay out the rode. 2) Arm straight up - over the anchor, stop any way. Very useful when the anchor is buried deeply and you have to reverse to get the anchor out of the bottom. You can then cleat off and use the steer straight back signal. Jack __________________________________________________ Jack Dale Swiftsure Sailing Academy Director ISPA and CYA Instructor http://www.swiftsuresailing.com Phone: 1 (877) 470-SAIL (toll free) __________________________________________________ |
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![]() My suggestion would be to ask you wife what hand signals she wants to use for different anchoring tasks/commands. Then YOU memorize her signals. The signals she comes up with, she will recognize easier because the are more instinctive for her. Mark E. Willliams Good suggestion. We tried to keep signals as few and intuitive as possible: pat head = ahead pat bum = reverse arm vertical = neutral point right, left, forward, etc. = steer that way. when raising anchor, point in direction of anchor rode thumb up/down = more/less throttle, only when setting the anchor - We also took turns anchoring so that we each knew what the other would do in a given situation. - We anchored so often that my wife (who usually was at the helm) would feel the anchor start to bite and swing the bow around and knew to ease off the throttle at that point etc. For weekend cruisers, this wouldn't be applicable. -- Evan Gatehouse you'll have to rewrite my email address to get to me ceilydh AT 3web dot net (fools the spammers) |
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