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So, I think that I would love to sail to Cuba. What can those in power do
about confiscating my boat? "Doug Dotson" wrote in message ... I know, I read it too. Doug s/v Callista "Cardinal Bill" wrote in message ... Doug Dotson wrote: Doug, I scanned the article. Basically the proclamation by Bush says that Homeland Security can sieze your boat and toss you and all the people off of it (and maybe into the clink) ANYWHERE in America (meaning if you're setting in Seattle or Chicago) if they "think" you "might" be going to Cuba or "might have been" to Cuba. You don't actually have to travel there. Oh yeah...this goes for ANY boat. Meaning if you're from, say Mexico or any other nation in the world, and you're in an American port Homeland Security can seize your boat. -- Politics is the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next week, next month and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen. -- Winston Churchill |
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![]() "Cardinal Bill" wrote..... Basically the proclamation by Bush says that Homeland Security can sieze your boat and toss you and all the people off of it (and maybe into the clink) ANYWHERE in America (meaning if you're setting in Seattle or Chicago) if they "think" you "might" be going to Cuba or "might have been" to Cuba. You don't actually have to travel there. Oh yeah...this goes for ANY boat. Meaning if you're from, say Mexico or any other nation in the world, and you're in an American port Homeland Security can seize your boat. Whoa! Just a damn minute here! What's that!!! Are you saying that your US Homeland Security Force can seize my boat if I happen to go across Lake Huron to an American Port, just because I have traveled to Cuba? I am a Canadian who travels on a Canadian registered vessel. My government has no restrictions on travel to Cuba. Were does it say this? Show me the law that states this, please! This past February was my seventh trip to cruise Cuba and it's waters. It is a great place to visit and the people are wonderful. James D. Carter, Port Captain, GLCC "The Boat" Bayfield Canada |
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A bit exaggerated but there is a thread of truth. Actually, one of the
current main forces behind the embargo is Alfonso Fanjul, owner of Flo-Sun Sugar. He is probably one of the most powerful figures in Florida politics and gets about $65 million a year in government sugar subsidies while he pours tons of nitrogen into the Florida Bay poisoning the keys and blaming it on us boaters. Dan Burton and Jessie Helms (of the Helms-Burton embargo act) got about 15% of their campaign funds from the Fanjul family. In '92 Alfonso was co-chair of the Clinton Florida campaign while his brother Pepe was treasurer for Bush I and Dole. BOTH Fanjuls are big buddies with brother Jeb and have close access to the White House. Vito wrote: Blame Mussolini (sp?)! He was so hard on the Mafia that US mobsters helped allied intellegence during WW2. Ike got so indebted to them for this help, and some 'personal' things they did for him that Charlie Lucky was released and allowed to carry his $millions back to Sicily. Meanwhile Ike's yes-man J-Edgar was proclaiming that no mob ever existed; but somehow non-existent US criminals controlled Cuba, made big $$$ off gambling and pimping local pretties and, more important, laundered the extortion money made in the USA. This in turn gave them even more $$$ to spend on crooked cops and politicians - which in turn gave them more political clout. Some thot it utopian. I mean why bust yer ass cutting cane when your 13 year old could turn tricks in Havana? But then Castro kicked out the mob-owned government, and became an international hero - until he stupidly interfered with Ike's buddies. Then Lansky & friends called in some chips and in the midst of a US tour Castro suddenly became a communist! I mean we *knew* he was a filthy commie because he appropriated 'private property' - namely the mobs casinos and whore houses - closed them down, and sent the girls home. So we slapped sanctions on him and he became worse! He nationalized the medical business and MDs could no longer make $million/year like in the states, so all the MDs moved to Florida. He cracked down on crime, so all the criminals moved to Florida. And when we really tightened the screws he got into bed with Kruchev! No wonder Bush hates him so. How can an honest criminal make money with the likes of Castro around?? Jeeze, it just 'taint right. And that's why you can't go there ..... (c: -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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OOOO! Now you did it!
"FMc" wrote in message ... So, I think that I would love to sail to Cuba. What can those in power do about confiscating my boat? "Doug Dotson" wrote in message ... I know, I read it too. Doug s/v Callista "Cardinal Bill" wrote in message ... Doug Dotson wrote: Doug, I scanned the article. Basically the proclamation by Bush says that Homeland Security can sieze your boat and toss you and all the people off of it (and maybe into the clink) ANYWHERE in America (meaning if you're setting in Seattle or Chicago) if they "think" you "might" be going to Cuba or "might have been" to Cuba. You don't actually have to travel there. Oh yeah...this goes for ANY boat. Meaning if you're from, say Mexico or any other nation in the world, and you're in an American port Homeland Security can seize your boat. -- Politics is the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next week, next month and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen. -- Winston Churchill |
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![]() "Jim Carter" wrote in message news:cWTnc.24135 Whoa! Just a damn minute here! What's that!!! Are you saying that your US Homeland Security Force can seize my boat if I happen to go across Lake Huron to an American Port, just because I have traveled to Cuba? I am a Canadian who travels on a Canadian registered vessel. My government has no restrictions on travel to Cuba. Were does it say this? Show me the law that states this, please! This past February was my seventh trip to cruise Cuba and it's waters. It is a great place to visit and the people are wonderful. James D. Carter, Port Captain, GLCC "The Boat" Bayfield Canada Oh oh! Now that the 'cat is out of the bag' you'd better stay away from the US. Next thing we'll be reading about you stripped naked and led around on a dog leash. |
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"Jim Carter" wrote:
Whoa! Just a damn minute here! What's that!!! Are you saying that your US Homeland Security Force can seize my boat if I happen to go across Lake Huron to an American Port, just because I have traveled to Cuba? 'Fraid so. That's what the Bush Cabal - I mean, Administration, claims. I am a Canadian who travels on a Canadian registered vessel. Don't make no diff to them that rules here now. My government has no restrictions on travel to Cuba. Where does it say this? Show me the law that states this, please! Law? HAHA They don' need no steenking "Law". They IS the Law. Remember "9/11 changed everything!" They do whatever they want, and any reasons can be made up at any time. This past February was my seventh trip to cruise Cuba and it's waters. It is a great place to visit and the people are wonderful. Obviously a commie-pink-limpwrist-nonFundamentalistGawdfearin'-furriner! (After Iraq we'll take care o' Canada...) :P {Reality: Every week that goes by I feel like I am sinking ever deeper into a bad dream. I hope everyone wakes up in time to VOTE in November and restore the chance for freedom here in the US} |
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![]() "Don White" wrote in message ... Oh oh! Now that the 'cat is out of the bag' you'd better stay away from the US. Next thing we'll be reading about you stripped naked and led around on a dog leash. Now, that's funny! I damn near fell off my chair laughing, just thinking about it. Jim |
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{Reality: Every week that goes by I feel like I am sinking ever deeper
into a bad dream. I hope everyone wakes up in time to VOTE in November and restore the chance for freedom here in the US} Vote for who? Kerry? I suppose he was for freedom before he was against it. Or was it the other way around? Which way is the wind blowing? ![]() Doug s/v Callista |
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![]() Doug Dotson wrote: {Reality: Every week that goes by I feel like I am sinking ever deeper into a bad dream. I hope everyone wakes up in time to VOTE in November and restore the chance for freedom here in the US} Vote for who? Kerry? I suppose he was for freedom before he was against it. Or was it the other way around? Which way is the wind blowing? ![]() I hate to get into a political discussion on a news group that almost uniquely has remained free of them, especially when I don't like either of the candidates but something is going terribly askew here. According to a letter to the Senate Finance Committee from the head of the Office of Foreign Assets Control, which is supposed to be tracking terrorist funds, they have been allocated only enough funds for 4 people to track Al Quida finances and more than two dozen tracking Cuban travel. Somebody needs to get their priorities in order. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
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