Has anyone seen any used AIS class A transponders for sale? I do enough
off-shore sailing to want a class A instead of a class B.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

John Navas wrote in
:

On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:34:49 -0500, Geoff Schultz
wrote in
:

Has anyone seen any used AIS class A transponders for sale? I do
enough off-shore sailing to want a class A instead of a class B.

Class A is probably going to cost you at least $3,000
http://store.milltechmarine.com/acrglaistr.html,
versus less than half of that for Class B:
http://www.wmjmarine.com/ait250.html
http://www.consumersmarine.com/modpe...gi?r=view&i=98
0030 Why do you think it's worth the additional cost?

Up until today I was one of those under the false impression that AIS
displays would be able to filter out class B information. According to
something that I just read on Panbo.com, this impression is common, but
false. The last thing that I wanted to do was to be doing an off-shore
passage and have my information filtered by an approaching ship.

Here's a link to the article:

http://www.panbo.com/archives/2009/04/ais_solas-
style_class_b_is_not_ignorable.html#more

I am also a bit concerned about ships not upgrading their software to
include class B messages. I know that until I recently upgraded my
RayMarine software, that it didn't understand class B messages.

However, after reading the article on Panbo, I feel much better about class
B and will probably get a class B.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

Geoff Schultz wrote:

John Navas wrote in
:

On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:34:49 -0500, Geoff Schultz
wrote in
:

Has anyone seen any used AIS class A transponders for sale? I do
enough off-shore sailing to want a class A instead of a class B.

Class A is probably going to cost you at least $3,000
http://store.milltechmarine.com/acrglaistr.html,
versus less than half of that for Class B:
http://www.wmjmarine.com/ait250.html
http://www.consumersmarine.com/modpe...gi?r=view&i=98
0030 Why do you think it's worth the additional cost?

Up until today I was one of those under the false impression that AIS
displays would be able to filter out class B information. According to
something that I just read on Panbo.com, this impression is common, but
false. The last thing that I wanted to do was to be doing an off-shore
passage and have my information filtered by an approaching ship.

Here's a link to the article:

http://www.panbo.com/archives/2009/04/ais_solas-
style_class_b_is_not_ignorable.html#more

I am also a bit concerned about ships not upgrading their software to
include class B messages. I know that until I recently upgraded my
RayMarine software, that it didn't understand class B messages.

However, after reading the article on Panbo, I feel much better about class
B and will probably get a class B.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

I have a class B unit (ACR) and the big guys see me. Of course I see
them from farther away, but that is an antenna height issue and would
be true of class A also.

Michael Porter
Michael Porter Marine Design
mporter at mp-marine dot com
www.mp-marine.com

On Jun 11, 3:34*am, Geoff Schultz wrote:
Has anyone seen any used AIS class A transponders for sale? *I do enough
off-shore sailing to want a class A instead of a class B.

-- Geoffwww.GeoffSchultz.org

I bought a brand new ACR/Nauticast class A AIS transponder on ebay
for $1100. It was sold by a seller in Singapore who lists high end
commercial marine gear from time to time. He had a high reserve
($1800?) in the first auction and nobody bid high enough. I made him
the $1100 offer and he eventually took it. Shipping was expensive,
about $75.

http://www.acrelectronics.com/global...balwatch2.html

At $1100 it was not cheap but still way lower than list price. It
lacked cables and GPS antenna, but I found a 5 VDC amplified GPS
antenna on eBay for $10 that was plug and play (SMA connector). I saw
a nearly new Furuno class A AIS go for about $900 on ebay a while
back.

My ACR AIS Xponder runs on 24 VDC and my boat is 12 VDC, but I can
find a bunch of easy ways to convert 12 to 24, including a cheap
inverter and AC supply. I am sure there is a linear regulator insdie
that probably knocks down 24 to 12 VDC, but I dont want to modify
anything in case I need factory service.

My boat is a commercial fishing boat but small enough that AIS is not
mandatory. I sometimes fish in foggy crowded waters off San Francisco
and wanted the best AIS I could afford. The more frequent
transmissions of class A and the large number of message options
appealed to me. I also wanted a self contained unit that didnt need a
laptop or anything else.

Mark

377 wrote in news:e862609d-7bee-4afa-be3c-
:

On Jun 11, 3:34*am, Geoff Schultz wrote:
Has anyone seen any used AIS class A transponders for sale? *I do
enoug
h
off-shore sailing to want a class A instead of a class B.

-- Geoffwww.GeoffSchultz.org

I bought a brand new ACR/Nauticast class A AIS transponder on ebay
for $1100. It was sold by a seller in Singapore who lists high end
commercial marine gear from time to time. He had a high reserve
($1800?) in the first auction and nobody bid high enough. I made him
the $1100 offer and he eventually took it. Shipping was expensive,
about $75.

http://www.acrelectronics.com/global...balwatch2.html

At $1100 it was not cheap but still way lower than list price. It
lacked cables and GPS antenna, but I found a 5 VDC amplified GPS
antenna on eBay for $10 that was plug and play (SMA connector). I saw
a nearly new Furuno class A AIS go for about $900 on ebay a while
back.

My ACR AIS Xponder runs on 24 VDC and my boat is 12 VDC, but I can
find a bunch of easy ways to convert 12 to 24, including a cheap
inverter and AC supply. I am sure there is a linear regulator insdie
that probably knocks down 24 to 12 VDC, but I dont want to modify
anything in case I need factory service.

My boat is a commercial fishing boat but small enough that AIS is not
mandatory. I sometimes fish in foggy crowded waters off San Francisco
and wanted the best AIS I could afford. The more frequent
transmissions of class A and the large number of message options
appealed to me. I also wanted a self contained unit that didnt need a
laptop or anything else.

Mark

I've been watching for used AIS transponders on Ebay for a while and
haven't seen any. That's why I asked here. I agree with your reasoning
for wanting one. I just ordered a Comar CSB-200 class B transponder
based upon my research. I'm also considering an active radar reflector.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

John Navas wrote in
:

On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:04:48 -0500, Geoff Schultz
wrote in
:

I'm also considering an active radar reflector.

Choose with care, because some do more harm than good.

I've been looking at the See-Me active radar reflector. Any comments on it
would be appreciated.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

Geoff Schultz wrote:
377 wrote in news:e862609d-7bee-4afa-be3c-
:

On Jun 11, 3:34 am, Geoff Schultz wrote:
Has anyone seen any used AIS class A transponders for sale? I do
enoug
h
off-shore sailing to want a class A instead of a class B.

-- Geoffwww.GeoffSchultz.org
I bought a brand new ACR/Nauticast class A AIS transponder on ebay
for $1100. It was sold by a seller in Singapore who lists high end
commercial marine gear from time to time. He had a high reserve
($1800?) in the first auction and nobody bid high enough. I made him
the $1100 offer and he eventually took it. Shipping was expensive,
about $75.

http://www.acrelectronics.com/global...balwatch2.html

At $1100 it was not cheap but still way lower than list price. It
lacked cables and GPS antenna, but I found a 5 VDC amplified GPS
antenna on eBay for $10 that was plug and play (SMA connector). I saw
a nearly new Furuno class A AIS go for about $900 on ebay a while
back.

My ACR AIS Xponder runs on 24 VDC and my boat is 12 VDC, but I can
find a bunch of easy ways to convert 12 to 24, including a cheap
inverter and AC supply. I am sure there is a linear regulator insdie
that probably knocks down 24 to 12 VDC, but I dont want to modify
anything in case I need factory service.

My boat is a commercial fishing boat but small enough that AIS is not
mandatory. I sometimes fish in foggy crowded waters off San Francisco
and wanted the best AIS I could afford. The more frequent
transmissions of class A and the large number of message options
appealed to me. I also wanted a self contained unit that didnt need a
laptop or anything else.

Mark

I've been watching for used AIS transponders on Ebay for a while and
haven't seen any. That's why I asked here. I agree with your reasoning
for wanting one. I just ordered a Comar CSB-200 class B transponder
based upon my research. I'm also considering an active radar reflector.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

Panbo discussion
http://www.panbo.com/archives/2007/0...ally_work.html
G

Geoff Schultz wrote:
377 wrote in news:e862609d-7bee-4afa-be3c-
:

On Jun 11, 3:34 am, Geoff Schultz wrote:
Has anyone seen any used AIS class A transponders for sale? I do
enoug
h
off-shore sailing to want a class A instead of a class B.

-- Geoffwww.GeoffSchultz.org
I bought a brand new ACR/Nauticast class A AIS transponder on ebay
for $1100. It was sold by a seller in Singapore who lists high end
commercial marine gear from time to time. He had a high reserve
($1800?) in the first auction and nobody bid high enough. I made him
the $1100 offer and he eventually took it. Shipping was expensive,
about $75.

http://www.acrelectronics.com/global...balwatch2.html

At $1100 it was not cheap but still way lower than list price. It
lacked cables and GPS antenna, but I found a 5 VDC amplified GPS
antenna on eBay for $10 that was plug and play (SMA connector). I saw
a nearly new Furuno class A AIS go for about $900 on ebay a while
back.

My ACR AIS Xponder runs on 24 VDC and my boat is 12 VDC, but I can
find a bunch of easy ways to convert 12 to 24, including a cheap
inverter and AC supply. I am sure there is a linear regulator insdie
that probably knocks down 24 to 12 VDC, but I dont want to modify
anything in case I need factory service.

My boat is a commercial fishing boat but small enough that AIS is not
mandatory. I sometimes fish in foggy crowded waters off San Francisco
and wanted the best AIS I could afford. The more frequent
transmissions of class A and the large number of message options
appealed to me. I also wanted a self contained unit that didnt need a
laptop or anything else.

Mark

I've been watching for used AIS transponders on Ebay for a while and
haven't seen any. That's why I asked here. I agree with your reasoning
for wanting one. I just ordered a Comar CSB-200 class B transponder
based upon my research. I'm also considering an active radar reflector.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

Seeing as how the ais xponder has to be programmed with your ships
info when you buy it, it wouldn't seem you will find any used ones about
or if you did, how would you get it reprogrammed?.
G

Geof,
I bought a 1 year old Class A Simrad unit used as a demo unit for marine
shows on eBay for $1300. Please note, there are substantial differences
between Class A and Class B. One of which is the Class A has its own
internal GPS among many others.
Steve

"Geoff Schultz" wrote in message
.. .
Has anyone seen any used AIS class A transponders for sale? I do enough
off-shore sailing to want a class A instead of a class B.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

"Steve Lusardi" wrote in news:h25jht$484$01$1
@news.t-online.com:

Geof,
I bought a 1 year old Class A Simrad unit used as a demo unit for marine
shows on eBay for $1300. Please note, there are substantial differences
between Class A and Class B. One of which is the Class A has its own
internal GPS among many others.
Steve

"Geoff Schultz" wrote in message
.. .
Has anyone seen any used AIS class A transponders for sale? I do enough
off-shore sailing to want a class A instead of a class B.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org




Don't you have to have a Class A ship to use that? I didn't think pleasure
boats were supposed to be on Class A's turf.....or have the GMDSS
Operator's License from the FCC to operate it.

Bruce in Alaska? Which license does he need ship and operator for Class
A??

--
-----
Larry

If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something,
is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him?