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How to use a simple SWR meter and what it means to your VHF
I've seen many posters talk about antennas and know lots of boaters
with antenna troubles and no clue how to see how it's doing, way up there, so thought I'd stick my neck into the guillotine and give some basic instructions on what an SWR meter is, what it does, and what it means after you learn how to use it. This will be all about VHF marine band, but is the same for any frequency the meter is made for. FIRST, let me say not all SWR meters are suitable for VHF marine band use. The reason for this has to do with the directional coupler, the part that senses power going this way and power going that way built into your meter. A CB SWR meter is NOT suitable for VHF work. VHF is out of its design range and its directional coupler is too long. Put using a CB SWR meter out of your mind. It's not a good reading. A ham radio VHF SWR meter IS acceptable as its range is usually from 140 to 170 Mhz, which includes our VHF marine band. Most boaters will get the little white Shakespeare VHF power and SWR meter from Waste Marine or some other overpricing boat shop so that's what I'll use for my example. These little passive SWR meters use the RF power of your radio to power the meter and require no batteries or power source. One guy I know got no reading and through the meter had dead batteries in it. There aren't any. His transmitter power amp was kaput....no output. THE CONTROLS. The controls on it are quite simple. There's a switch that switches from POWER OUTPUT to REFERENCE (SETUP) to SWR, a 3-position slide switch. The POWER OUTPUT meter is useless unless you have the ANTENNA jack plugged into a 50 ohm dummy load like the guys at the factory did to calibrate it. Depending on the position of the meter in the line of a defective antenna system, it might read way low or it might peg on 1 watt. Consider it fairly accurate if the SWR of the antenna is quite low (below 1.5 to 1) So, What's SWR??..... SWR (pronounced as three letters, unless you're on CB where it's called "swur" for some reason noone knows) means Standing Wave Ratio. The keyword there is RATIO, a measurement of the peak voltage found on the transmission line in one place, compared to the minimum (trough?) voltage found 1/4 wavelength from that peak in either direction. These peaks and valleys are caused by reflections of an imperfect or off-tuned antenna, bad connectors, kinked transmission lines bent too sharply and a lot of just poor luck. You can watch these waves out by the seawall. If you toss a rock into the water (transmitter) it creates waves that expand out in all directions. When the wave bounces off the seawall, watch what happens. The wave coming in from the stone bounce off the REFLECTIVE seawall and go BACK towards the transmitter, a "reflected power" that wasn't absorbed by the wall. As the reflected waves pass through the incoming waves that haven't reflected, yet, notice how there is a wave that doesn't move.....a Standing Wave that has PEAK positions that stand still a set distance from TROUGH positions, that also stand still. The same exact thing is going on in your antenna system, every time you press that button. In electronics, there are two simple devices that STORE electrons....capacitors that charge (electrostatically) and inductors that store energy (magnetically). If you doubt this, go out and pull the spark plug wire off a running Seagull outboard to test this theory....we'll wait. Ah, I see you're back? Why do you look so "shocked"? Did it work? A perfect RF transmission system perfectly transfers the power from the transmitter to the perfect antenna, which radiates all the power the transmitter put out into the air, blasting all the recievers with your fantastic signal so they can hear your pleas for help. These systems do not exist. The antenna is never tuned to your channel, only close to your channel (we hope) and the transmission line is that cheap white crap from Wasted Marine or RatShack, not rigid coaxial line used by broadcast stations, made to exacting standards. To keep it short, the line and antenna have "reactance", like that wall. And it's that reactance (inductance and capacitance) that cause anomolies that make reflections, like that wall. What can we do? How can we measure how bad it is?............... Most marine antennas are sealed up and "pretuned" for open areas. Not much we can do to "tune" them to the middle of the band. I like old Metz antennas, made by an old ham company, just because I can trim that element for best results. It's tunable. That fishing pole of a fiberglass antenna is actually a little, specially bent wire embedded inside fiberglass to keep it straight (and disintegrate reliably in sunshine so you can replace it, often). "Pruning" the tunable antenna requires us to measure SWR at different frequencies so we can center its curve up on the band we want for best results. What "curve"?? An antenna "resonates", where the inductance balances out the capacitance and acts like a radiating resistive load, over a fairly large range of frequencies, not just one. Lucky for us.....it can be made to pass channel 1 and channel 72, fairly reliably, without retuning like you have to do to change channels on the HF SSB antenna. The curve looks kinda like this: | * * SWR| * * | * * | * Frequency If we center the best (lowest) SWR up in the middle of the band, it will have an acceptable SWR (low) on channels on the bottom and top we want, and are allowed to use. Part of the testing, we will test different channels across the marine band to get an idea of what YOUR plot would look like. So, how do we measure SWR??............. For the little meter to measure the antenna, it has to be located INLINE with the RF power, between the transmitter and antenna. IDEALLY, we'd like to adjust the antenna with the SWR meter located between the transmission line, antenna end, and the antenna's coax connector. Obviously, sometimes, this is not practical for a simple test. However, the further you are from the antenna, back down the transmission line, the less the reading is about the antenna SWR and the more the reading is about the cable losing the signal (attenuation and leakage) and the reactivity of the cable, itself. If we measure the SWR at the antenna end, the SWR we measure is only about the antenna. If we measure it where it's easy, at the radio, the reading is about the antenna AND the cable, so you can't tell which is at fault if it sucks. OK, let's assume you're like me, hate heights, weigh too much to haul up on a winch with less than 6 strong arms on a winch handle and the bos'n's chair might not like the load, anyways. So, we'll measure the antenna at the radio end, at least until we find it's all screwed up. Disconnect the antenna from the radio, with the radio off so you don't inadvertently transmit into an open which might do harm to the transmitter. Now you need a "coax jumper" that didn't come with the meter. Radio Shack has them, so get one that's just long enough to hook the meter's RADIO port to the radio so we can still read it and switch the controls. If you'd like to MOUNT the meter on your panel, buy two right-angle UHF 90 degree adapters so we can mount the meter on the front of the panel and the L-shaped connectors will go back through the panel to connect the cables to. That would let you see power output every time you keyed the VHF so you'd be SURE it was transmitting, instead of calling out for a radio check so often. I leave them in SWR to watch the antenna, here. Hook the antenna to the antenna jack and the jumper between the Radio jack and the radio. Turn on the radio and tune it to a commercial channel not monitored by the DEA or USCG around 40-something. Put the meter's little switch in the REFERENCE or SET position and turn the set control all the way to the left, to keep from pegging the meter. Test at FULL POWER so you can see if something up there is arcing at FULL POWER (the meter jumps up in SWR if it is). Key the transmitter and don't talk into the mic. Turn up the SET level "volume" control until the meter reads FULL SCALE, all the way to the SET mark. This sets the reference level of the meter to the power coming out of the radio "under these conditions". Once set to full scale, flip the switch to SWR and pray it drops all the way to 1 on the SWR scale (no reflected power) indicating I was a liar and there IS a perfect antenna system.....Read the pseudo-accurate meter SWR scale. 1 is the left edge (1:1 standing waves - there aren't any standing waves because the antenna is perfect). The next mark up is probably 1.5 with hashmarkes for 1.4, 1.3, 1.2, 1.1, which is silly. Then it's 2:1 then the middle of the meter is 3:1 SWR and there's no marks higher because 3:1 is BAD, BAD, BAD....way too high. Unkey the mic before the cops start looking for you. What does this mean?? Here's the relative power levels of the major points. 1.0 SWR....no reflected power....all 25W is going out on the air 1.5 SWR.....4% reflected power....1 watt is reflected back, 24W goes out and noone notices anything because you couldn't measure 4% out of the lab. 2.0 SWR......10% reflected power...2.5W is reflected back and 22.5 W goes out on the air and STILL noone notices anything unless they are magicians. 3.0 SWR......25% reflected power....6.25W is reflected back and 18.75W goes out on the air. Someone comparing this antenna with your perfect antenna just notices a little movement in his S-meter on the other end if you're weak. 3.0 and above is considered "bad SWR" and something needs to be fixed. CB myths........ 1.01 SWR is good. 1.1 SWR is a disaster. What nonsense. Where do they get this from? ANTENNA MANUFACTURERS selling new antennas, that's where. They made millions from this myth. Wanna see a real broadcast TV station's huge UHF antenna SWR LIVE on the net? Look at: http://www.wzpxtv.com/wzpxtransmitter.htm This a real readout of a powerful +megawatt TV transmitter from WZPX on Channel 44 (with a nice new digital TV transmitter, too!) The software company puts it on the net. SWR tonight on the beast-on-the-mountain is 1.3:1 but I've seen it read 1.8:1 which is really high at these power levels. On your boat, it's not. You don't have thousands of watts coming back down the pipes at you! Ok, now always turn the SET control back to the left before unhooking the meter or changing channels. Do it now..... Ok, make the same measurements on a few channels (not 16, 22A please) across the marine band. Record your SWR results and make a crude chart of them plotting SWR measured against channel (frequency) number like I did above. Is the lowest SWR near the middle of the channel numbers? No? Does the curve at least have a low point (dip) inside the marine band? Yes, but the dip is around Channel 3 and SWR is much higher at Channel 72 (why they could hear you on 16 but not 72 way off). The antenna is tuned too LOW. If it's tunable, we need to shorten the element to raise the resonant frequency. If 1 is high SWR and 72 is low, we need to lengthen the antenna element. Ideal is a curve with its low point somewhere in the middle of the band with less than 2:1 SWR on any channel. The curve shows you where the antenna tuning is and how broadbanded (how many channels will it radiate well). If you measure this curve up at the antenna before all that cable attenuates the SWR reading, it will simply be much more pronounced because the cable attenuates power up as well as it does power down the mast....making our reading weaker by a bit. AS you can see, tuning an antenna ISN'T rocket science. If the channels you use are all less than 2:1, it's fine. If they're less than 1.5:1, it's great. If they're all really low....SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE ANTENNA, THE CABLE OR THE MEASUREMENT, because every antenna has a curve. Ok, we'll now haul a victim....er, ah, volunteer....up the mast to trim the antenna the way it shows in the instructions...... You all should be able to measure SWR just fine with the little meters, now, and have a vague idea of what it means. Please leave the classroom quietly so's not to wake the four students in the back row we lost. (Class quietly leaves, instructor slips out and puts lights out with them still asleep. One once slept right through lunch....(c Larry W4CSC "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!" |
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How to use a simple SWR meter and what it means to your VHF
I prefer a reflected power meter. Much more inruitive than
an SWR meter. Converting from RP to SWR is a simple formula as well. Doug, k3qt s/v Callista "Larry W4CSC" wrote in message ... I've seen many posters talk about antennas and know lots of boaters with antenna troubles and no clue how to see how it's doing, way up there, so thought I'd stick my neck into the guillotine and give some basic instructions on what an SWR meter is, what it does, and what it means after you learn how to use it. This will be all about VHF marine band, but is the same for any frequency the meter is made for. FIRST, let me say not all SWR meters are suitable for VHF marine band use. The reason for this has to do with the directional coupler, the part that senses power going this way and power going that way built into your meter. A CB SWR meter is NOT suitable for VHF work. VHF is out of its design range and its directional coupler is too long. Put using a CB SWR meter out of your mind. It's not a good reading. A ham radio VHF SWR meter IS acceptable as its range is usually from 140 to 170 Mhz, which includes our VHF marine band. Most boaters will get the little white Shakespeare VHF power and SWR meter from Waste Marine or some other overpricing boat shop so that's what I'll use for my example. These little passive SWR meters use the RF power of your radio to power the meter and require no batteries or power source. One guy I know got no reading and through the meter had dead batteries in it. There aren't any. His transmitter power amp was kaput....no output. THE CONTROLS. The controls on it are quite simple. There's a switch that switches from POWER OUTPUT to REFERENCE (SETUP) to SWR, a 3-position slide switch. The POWER OUTPUT meter is useless unless you have the ANTENNA jack plugged into a 50 ohm dummy load like the guys at the factory did to calibrate it. Depending on the position of the meter in the line of a defective antenna system, it might read way low or it might peg on 1 watt. Consider it fairly accurate if the SWR of the antenna is quite low (below 1.5 to 1) So, What's SWR??..... SWR (pronounced as three letters, unless you're on CB where it's called "swur" for some reason noone knows) means Standing Wave Ratio. The keyword there is RATIO, a measurement of the peak voltage found on the transmission line in one place, compared to the minimum (trough?) voltage found 1/4 wavelength from that peak in either direction. These peaks and valleys are caused by reflections of an imperfect or off-tuned antenna, bad connectors, kinked transmission lines bent too sharply and a lot of just poor luck. You can watch these waves out by the seawall. If you toss a rock into the water (transmitter) it creates waves that expand out in all directions. When the wave bounces off the seawall, watch what happens. The wave coming in from the stone bounce off the REFLECTIVE seawall and go BACK towards the transmitter, a "reflected power" that wasn't absorbed by the wall. As the reflected waves pass through the incoming waves that haven't reflected, yet, notice how there is a wave that doesn't move.....a Standing Wave that has PEAK positions that stand still a set distance from TROUGH positions, that also stand still. The same exact thing is going on in your antenna system, every time you press that button. In electronics, there are two simple devices that STORE electrons....capacitors that charge (electrostatically) and inductors that store energy (magnetically). If you doubt this, go out and pull the spark plug wire off a running Seagull outboard to test this theory....we'll wait. Ah, I see you're back? Why do you look so "shocked"? Did it work? A perfect RF transmission system perfectly transfers the power from the transmitter to the perfect antenna, which radiates all the power the transmitter put out into the air, blasting all the recievers with your fantastic signal so they can hear your pleas for help. These systems do not exist. The antenna is never tuned to your channel, only close to your channel (we hope) and the transmission line is that cheap white crap from Wasted Marine or RatShack, not rigid coaxial line used by broadcast stations, made to exacting standards. To keep it short, the line and antenna have "reactance", like that wall. And it's that reactance (inductance and capacitance) that cause anomolies that make reflections, like that wall. What can we do? How can we measure how bad it is?............... Most marine antennas are sealed up and "pretuned" for open areas. Not much we can do to "tune" them to the middle of the band. I like old Metz antennas, made by an old ham company, just because I can trim that element for best results. It's tunable. That fishing pole of a fiberglass antenna is actually a little, specially bent wire embedded inside fiberglass to keep it straight (and disintegrate reliably in sunshine so you can replace it, often). "Pruning" the tunable antenna requires us to measure SWR at different frequencies so we can center its curve up on the band we want for best results. What "curve"?? An antenna "resonates", where the inductance balances out the capacitance and acts like a radiating resistive load, over a fairly large range of frequencies, not just one. Lucky for us.....it can be made to pass channel 1 and channel 72, fairly reliably, without retuning like you have to do to change channels on the HF SSB antenna. The curve looks kinda like this: | * * SWR| * * | * * | * Frequency If we center the best (lowest) SWR up in the middle of the band, it will have an acceptable SWR (low) on channels on the bottom and top we want, and are allowed to use. Part of the testing, we will test different channels across the marine band to get an idea of what YOUR plot would look like. So, how do we measure SWR??............. For the little meter to measure the antenna, it has to be located INLINE with the RF power, between the transmitter and antenna. IDEALLY, we'd like to adjust the antenna with the SWR meter located between the transmission line, antenna end, and the antenna's coax connector. Obviously, sometimes, this is not practical for a simple test. However, the further you are from the antenna, back down the transmission line, the less the reading is about the antenna SWR and the more the reading is about the cable losing the signal (attenuation and leakage) and the reactivity of the cable, itself. If we measure the SWR at the antenna end, the SWR we measure is only about the antenna. If we measure it where it's easy, at the radio, the reading is about the antenna AND the cable, so you can't tell which is at fault if it sucks. OK, let's assume you're like me, hate heights, weigh too much to haul up on a winch with less than 6 strong arms on a winch handle and the bos'n's chair might not like the load, anyways. So, we'll measure the antenna at the radio end, at least until we find it's all screwed up. Disconnect the antenna from the radio, with the radio off so you don't inadvertently transmit into an open which might do harm to the transmitter. Now you need a "coax jumper" that didn't come with the meter. Radio Shack has them, so get one that's just long enough to hook the meter's RADIO port to the radio so we can still read it and switch the controls. If you'd like to MOUNT the meter on your panel, buy two right-angle UHF 90 degree adapters so we can mount the meter on the front of the panel and the L-shaped connectors will go back through the panel to connect the cables to. That would let you see power output every time you keyed the VHF so you'd be SURE it was transmitting, instead of calling out for a radio check so often. I leave them in SWR to watch the antenna, here. Hook the antenna to the antenna jack and the jumper between the Radio jack and the radio. Turn on the radio and tune it to a commercial channel not monitored by the DEA or USCG around 40-something. Put the meter's little switch in the REFERENCE or SET position and turn the set control all the way to the left, to keep from pegging the meter. Test at FULL POWER so you can see if something up there is arcing at FULL POWER (the meter jumps up in SWR if it is). Key the transmitter and don't talk into the mic. Turn up the SET level "volume" control until the meter reads FULL SCALE, all the way to the SET mark. This sets the reference level of the meter to the power coming out of the radio "under these conditions". Once set to full scale, flip the switch to SWR and pray it drops all the way to 1 on the SWR scale (no reflected power) indicating I was a liar and there IS a perfect antenna system.....Read the pseudo-accurate meter SWR scale. 1 is the left edge (1:1 standing waves - there aren't any standing waves because the antenna is perfect). The next mark up is probably 1.5 with hashmarkes for 1.4, 1.3, 1.2, 1.1, which is silly. Then it's 2:1 then the middle of the meter is 3:1 SWR and there's no marks higher because 3:1 is BAD, BAD, BAD....way too high. Unkey the mic before the cops start looking for you. What does this mean?? Here's the relative power levels of the major points. 1.0 SWR....no reflected power....all 25W is going out on the air 1.5 SWR.....4% reflected power....1 watt is reflected back, 24W goes out and noone notices anything because you couldn't measure 4% out of the lab. 2.0 SWR......10% reflected power...2.5W is reflected back and 22.5 W goes out on the air and STILL noone notices anything unless they are magicians. 3.0 SWR......25% reflected power....6.25W is reflected back and 18.75W goes out on the air. Someone comparing this antenna with your perfect antenna just notices a little movement in his S-meter on the other end if you're weak. 3.0 and above is considered "bad SWR" and something needs to be fixed. CB myths........ 1.01 SWR is good. 1.1 SWR is a disaster. What nonsense. Where do they get this from? ANTENNA MANUFACTURERS selling new antennas, that's where. They made millions from this myth. Wanna see a real broadcast TV station's huge UHF antenna SWR LIVE on the net? Look at: http://www.wzpxtv.com/wzpxtransmitter.htm This a real readout of a powerful +megawatt TV transmitter from WZPX on Channel 44 (with a nice new digital TV transmitter, too!) The software company puts it on the net. SWR tonight on the beast-on-the-mountain is 1.3:1 but I've seen it read 1.8:1 which is really high at these power levels. On your boat, it's not. You don't have thousands of watts coming back down the pipes at you! Ok, now always turn the SET control back to the left before unhooking the meter or changing channels. Do it now..... Ok, make the same measurements on a few channels (not 16, 22A please) across the marine band. Record your SWR results and make a crude chart of them plotting SWR measured against channel (frequency) number like I did above. Is the lowest SWR near the middle of the channel numbers? No? Does the curve at least have a low point (dip) inside the marine band? Yes, but the dip is around Channel 3 and SWR is much higher at Channel 72 (why they could hear you on 16 but not 72 way off). The antenna is tuned too LOW. If it's tunable, we need to shorten the element to raise the resonant frequency. If 1 is high SWR and 72 is low, we need to lengthen the antenna element. Ideal is a curve with its low point somewhere in the middle of the band with less than 2:1 SWR on any channel. The curve shows you where the antenna tuning is and how broadbanded (how many channels will it radiate well). If you measure this curve up at the antenna before all that cable attenuates the SWR reading, it will simply be much more pronounced because the cable attenuates power up as well as it does power down the mast....making our reading weaker by a bit. AS you can see, tuning an antenna ISN'T rocket science. If the channels you use are all less than 2:1, it's fine. If they're less than 1.5:1, it's great. If they're all really low....SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE ANTENNA, THE CABLE OR THE MEASUREMENT, because every antenna has a curve. Ok, we'll now haul a victim....er, ah, volunteer....up the mast to trim the antenna the way it shows in the instructions...... You all should be able to measure SWR just fine with the little meters, now, and have a vague idea of what it means. Please leave the classroom quietly so's not to wake the four students in the back row we lost. (Class quietly leaves, instructor slips out and puts lights out with them still asleep. One once slept right through lunch....(c Larry W4CSC "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!" |
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How to use a simple SWR meter and what it means to your VHF
Care to expand on that ????.................
"Doug Dotson" wrote in message ... I prefer a reflected power meter. Much more inruitive than an SWR meter. Converting from RP to SWR is a simple formula as well. Doug, k3qt s/v Callista "Larry W4CSC" wrote in message ... I've seen many posters talk about antennas and know lots of boaters with antenna troubles and no clue how to see how it's doing, way up there, so thought I'd stick my neck into the guillotine and give some basic instructions on what an SWR meter is, what it does, and what it means after you learn how to use it. This will be all about VHF marine band, but is the same for any frequency the meter is made for. FIRST, let me say not all SWR meters are suitable for VHF marine band use. The reason for this has to do with the directional coupler, the part that senses power going this way and power going that way built into your meter. A CB SWR meter is NOT suitable for VHF work. VHF is out of its design range and its directional coupler is too long. Put using a CB SWR meter out of your mind. It's not a good reading. A ham radio VHF SWR meter IS acceptable as its range is usually from 140 to 170 Mhz, which includes our VHF marine band. Most boaters will get the little white Shakespeare VHF power and SWR meter from Waste Marine or some other overpricing boat shop so that's what I'll use for my example. These little passive SWR meters use the RF power of your radio to power the meter and require no batteries or power source. One guy I know got no reading and through the meter had dead batteries in it. There aren't any. His transmitter power amp was kaput....no output. THE CONTROLS. The controls on it are quite simple. There's a switch that switches from POWER OUTPUT to REFERENCE (SETUP) to SWR, a 3-position slide switch. The POWER OUTPUT meter is useless unless you have the ANTENNA jack plugged into a 50 ohm dummy load like the guys at the factory did to calibrate it. Depending on the position of the meter in the line of a defective antenna system, it might read way low or it might peg on 1 watt. Consider it fairly accurate if the SWR of the antenna is quite low (below 1.5 to 1) So, What's SWR??..... SWR (pronounced as three letters, unless you're on CB where it's called "swur" for some reason noone knows) means Standing Wave Ratio. The keyword there is RATIO, a measurement of the peak voltage found on the transmission line in one place, compared to the minimum (trough?) voltage found 1/4 wavelength from that peak in either direction. These peaks and valleys are caused by reflections of an imperfect or off-tuned antenna, bad connectors, kinked transmission lines bent too sharply and a lot of just poor luck. You can watch these waves out by the seawall. If you toss a rock into the water (transmitter) it creates waves that expand out in all directions. When the wave bounces off the seawall, watch what happens. The wave coming in from the stone bounce off the REFLECTIVE seawall and go BACK towards the transmitter, a "reflected power" that wasn't absorbed by the wall. As the reflected waves pass through the incoming waves that haven't reflected, yet, notice how there is a wave that doesn't move.....a Standing Wave that has PEAK positions that stand still a set distance from TROUGH positions, that also stand still. The same exact thing is going on in your antenna system, every time you press that button. In electronics, there are two simple devices that STORE electrons....capacitors that charge (electrostatically) and inductors that store energy (magnetically). If you doubt this, go out and pull the spark plug wire off a running Seagull outboard to test this theory....we'll wait. Ah, I see you're back? Why do you look so "shocked"? Did it work? A perfect RF transmission system perfectly transfers the power from the transmitter to the perfect antenna, which radiates all the power the transmitter put out into the air, blasting all the recievers with your fantastic signal so they can hear your pleas for help. These systems do not exist. The antenna is never tuned to your channel, only close to your channel (we hope) and the transmission line is that cheap white crap from Wasted Marine or RatShack, not rigid coaxial line used by broadcast stations, made to exacting standards. To keep it short, the line and antenna have "reactance", like that wall. And it's that reactance (inductance and capacitance) that cause anomolies that make reflections, like that wall. What can we do? How can we measure how bad it is?............... Most marine antennas are sealed up and "pretuned" for open areas. Not much we can do to "tune" them to the middle of the band. I like old Metz antennas, made by an old ham company, just because I can trim that element for best results. It's tunable. That fishing pole of a fiberglass antenna is actually a little, specially bent wire embedded inside fiberglass to keep it straight (and disintegrate reliably in sunshine so you can replace it, often). "Pruning" the tunable antenna requires us to measure SWR at different frequencies so we can center its curve up on the band we want for best results. What "curve"?? An antenna "resonates", where the inductance balances out the capacitance and acts like a radiating resistive load, over a fairly large range of frequencies, not just one. Lucky for us.....it can be made to pass channel 1 and channel 72, fairly reliably, without retuning like you have to do to change channels on the HF SSB antenna. The curve looks kinda like this: | * * SWR| * * | * * | * Frequency If we center the best (lowest) SWR up in the middle of the band, it will have an acceptable SWR (low) on channels on the bottom and top we want, and are allowed to use. Part of the testing, we will test different channels across the marine band to get an idea of what YOUR plot would look like. So, how do we measure SWR??............. For the little meter to measure the antenna, it has to be located INLINE with the RF power, between the transmitter and antenna. IDEALLY, we'd like to adjust the antenna with the SWR meter located between the transmission line, antenna end, and the antenna's coax connector. Obviously, sometimes, this is not practical for a simple test. However, the further you are from the antenna, back down the transmission line, the less the reading is about the antenna SWR and the more the reading is about the cable losing the signal (attenuation and leakage) and the reactivity of the cable, itself. If we measure the SWR at the antenna end, the SWR we measure is only about the antenna. If we measure it where it's easy, at the radio, the reading is about the antenna AND the cable, so you can't tell which is at fault if it sucks. OK, let's assume you're like me, hate heights, weigh too much to haul up on a winch with less than 6 strong arms on a winch handle and the bos'n's chair might not like the load, anyways. So, we'll measure the antenna at the radio end, at least until we find it's all screwed up. Disconnect the antenna from the radio, with the radio off so you don't inadvertently transmit into an open which might do harm to the transmitter. Now you need a "coax jumper" that didn't come with the meter. Radio Shack has them, so get one that's just long enough to hook the meter's RADIO port to the radio so we can still read it and switch the controls. If you'd like to MOUNT the meter on your panel, buy two right-angle UHF 90 degree adapters so we can mount the meter on the front of the panel and the L-shaped connectors will go back through the panel to connect the cables to. That would let you see power output every time you keyed the VHF so you'd be SURE it was transmitting, instead of calling out for a radio check so often. I leave them in SWR to watch the antenna, here. Hook the antenna to the antenna jack and the jumper between the Radio jack and the radio. Turn on the radio and tune it to a commercial channel not monitored by the DEA or USCG around 40-something. Put the meter's little switch in the REFERENCE or SET position and turn the set control all the way to the left, to keep from pegging the meter. Test at FULL POWER so you can see if something up there is arcing at FULL POWER (the meter jumps up in SWR if it is). Key the transmitter and don't talk into the mic. Turn up the SET level "volume" control until the meter reads FULL SCALE, all the way to the SET mark. This sets the reference level of the meter to the power coming out of the radio "under these conditions". Once set to full scale, flip the switch to SWR and pray it drops all the way to 1 on the SWR scale (no reflected power) indicating I was a liar and there IS a perfect antenna system.....Read the pseudo-accurate meter SWR scale. 1 is the left edge (1:1 standing waves - there aren't any standing waves because the antenna is perfect). The next mark up is probably 1.5 with hashmarkes for 1.4, 1.3, 1.2, 1.1, which is silly. Then it's 2:1 then the middle of the meter is 3:1 SWR and there's no marks higher because 3:1 is BAD, BAD, BAD....way too high. Unkey the mic before the cops start looking for you. What does this mean?? Here's the relative power levels of the major points. 1.0 SWR....no reflected power....all 25W is going out on the air 1.5 SWR.....4% reflected power....1 watt is reflected back, 24W goes out and noone notices anything because you couldn't measure 4% out of the lab. 2.0 SWR......10% reflected power...2.5W is reflected back and 22.5 W goes out on the air and STILL noone notices anything unless they are magicians. 3.0 SWR......25% reflected power....6.25W is reflected back and 18.75W goes out on the air. Someone comparing this antenna with your perfect antenna just notices a little movement in his S-meter on the other end if you're weak. 3.0 and above is considered "bad SWR" and something needs to be fixed. CB myths........ 1.01 SWR is good. 1.1 SWR is a disaster. What nonsense. Where do they get this from? ANTENNA MANUFACTURERS selling new antennas, that's where. They made millions from this myth. Wanna see a real broadcast TV station's huge UHF antenna SWR LIVE on the net? Look at: http://www.wzpxtv.com/wzpxtransmitter.htm This a real readout of a powerful +megawatt TV transmitter from WZPX on Channel 44 (with a nice new digital TV transmitter, too!) The software company puts it on the net. SWR tonight on the beast-on-the-mountain is 1.3:1 but I've seen it read 1.8:1 which is really high at these power levels. On your boat, it's not. You don't have thousands of watts coming back down the pipes at you! Ok, now always turn the SET control back to the left before unhooking the meter or changing channels. Do it now..... Ok, make the same measurements on a few channels (not 16, 22A please) across the marine band. Record your SWR results and make a crude chart of them plotting SWR measured against channel (frequency) number like I did above. Is the lowest SWR near the middle of the channel numbers? No? Does the curve at least have a low point (dip) inside the marine band? Yes, but the dip is around Channel 3 and SWR is much higher at Channel 72 (why they could hear you on 16 but not 72 way off). The antenna is tuned too LOW. If it's tunable, we need to shorten the element to raise the resonant frequency. If 1 is high SWR and 72 is low, we need to lengthen the antenna element. Ideal is a curve with its low point somewhere in the middle of the band with less than 2:1 SWR on any channel. The curve shows you where the antenna tuning is and how broadbanded (how many channels will it radiate well). If you measure this curve up at the antenna before all that cable attenuates the SWR reading, it will simply be much more pronounced because the cable attenuates power up as well as it does power down the mast....making our reading weaker by a bit. AS you can see, tuning an antenna ISN'T rocket science. If the channels you use are all less than 2:1, it's fine. If they're less than 1.5:1, it's great. If they're all really low....SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE ANTENNA, THE CABLE OR THE MEASUREMENT, because every antenna has a curve. Ok, we'll now haul a victim....er, ah, volunteer....up the mast to trim the antenna the way it shows in the instructions...... You all should be able to measure SWR just fine with the little meters, now, and have a vague idea of what it means. Please leave the classroom quietly so's not to wake the four students in the back row we lost. (Class quietly leaves, instructor slips out and puts lights out with them still asleep. One once slept right through lunch....(c Larry W4CSC "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!" |
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How to use a simple SWR meter and what it means to your VHF
Thank you Professor; you explained this operation far more succinctly than I
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How to use a simple SWR meter and what it means to your VHF
A RP meter read the amount of watts that are being reflected back
If I hook it up to my VHF and it reads 20 watts forward and 5 watts reflected, that is bad. 23 forward and 2 reflected is not so bad, etc. I use a Bird Thruline but there are cheaper ones out there. Doug "Erik the Bold" wrote in message ... Care to expand on that ????................. "Doug Dotson" wrote in message ... I prefer a reflected power meter. Much more inruitive than an SWR meter. Converting from RP to SWR is a simple formula as well. Doug, k3qt s/v Callista "Larry W4CSC" wrote in message ... I've seen many posters talk about antennas and know lots of boaters with antenna troubles and no clue how to see how it's doing, way up there, so thought I'd stick my neck into the guillotine and give some basic instructions on what an SWR meter is, what it does, and what it means after you learn how to use it. This will be all about VHF marine band, but is the same for any frequency the meter is made for. FIRST, let me say not all SWR meters are suitable for VHF marine band use. The reason for this has to do with the directional coupler, the part that senses power going this way and power going that way built into your meter. A CB SWR meter is NOT suitable for VHF work. VHF is out of its design range and its directional coupler is too long. Put using a CB SWR meter out of your mind. It's not a good reading. A ham radio VHF SWR meter IS acceptable as its range is usually from 140 to 170 Mhz, which includes our VHF marine band. Most boaters will get the little white Shakespeare VHF power and SWR meter from Waste Marine or some other overpricing boat shop so that's what I'll use for my example. These little passive SWR meters use the RF power of your radio to power the meter and require no batteries or power source. One guy I know got no reading and through the meter had dead batteries in it. There aren't any. His transmitter power amp was kaput....no output. THE CONTROLS. The controls on it are quite simple. There's a switch that switches from POWER OUTPUT to REFERENCE (SETUP) to SWR, a 3-position slide switch. The POWER OUTPUT meter is useless unless you have the ANTENNA jack plugged into a 50 ohm dummy load like the guys at the factory did to calibrate it. Depending on the position of the meter in the line of a defective antenna system, it might read way low or it might peg on 1 watt. Consider it fairly accurate if the SWR of the antenna is quite low (below 1.5 to 1) So, What's SWR??..... SWR (pronounced as three letters, unless you're on CB where it's called "swur" for some reason noone knows) means Standing Wave Ratio. The keyword there is RATIO, a measurement of the peak voltage found on the transmission line in one place, compared to the minimum (trough?) voltage found 1/4 wavelength from that peak in either direction. These peaks and valleys are caused by reflections of an imperfect or off-tuned antenna, bad connectors, kinked transmission lines bent too sharply and a lot of just poor luck. You can watch these waves out by the seawall. If you toss a rock into the water (transmitter) it creates waves that expand out in all directions. When the wave bounces off the seawall, watch what happens. The wave coming in from the stone bounce off the REFLECTIVE seawall and go BACK towards the transmitter, a "reflected power" that wasn't absorbed by the wall. As the reflected waves pass through the incoming waves that haven't reflected, yet, notice how there is a wave that doesn't move.....a Standing Wave that has PEAK positions that stand still a set distance from TROUGH positions, that also stand still. The same exact thing is going on in your antenna system, every time you press that button. In electronics, there are two simple devices that STORE electrons....capacitors that charge (electrostatically) and inductors that store energy (magnetically). If you doubt this, go out and pull the spark plug wire off a running Seagull outboard to test this theory....we'll wait. Ah, I see you're back? Why do you look so "shocked"? Did it work? A perfect RF transmission system perfectly transfers the power from the transmitter to the perfect antenna, which radiates all the power the transmitter put out into the air, blasting all the recievers with your fantastic signal so they can hear your pleas for help. These systems do not exist. The antenna is never tuned to your channel, only close to your channel (we hope) and the transmission line is that cheap white crap from Wasted Marine or RatShack, not rigid coaxial line used by broadcast stations, made to exacting standards. To keep it short, the line and antenna have "reactance", like that wall. And it's that reactance (inductance and capacitance) that cause anomolies that make reflections, like that wall. What can we do? How can we measure how bad it is?............... Most marine antennas are sealed up and "pretuned" for open areas. Not much we can do to "tune" them to the middle of the band. I like old Metz antennas, made by an old ham company, just because I can trim that element for best results. It's tunable. That fishing pole of a fiberglass antenna is actually a little, specially bent wire embedded inside fiberglass to keep it straight (and disintegrate reliably in sunshine so you can replace it, often). "Pruning" the tunable antenna requires us to measure SWR at different frequencies so we can center its curve up on the band we want for best results. What "curve"?? An antenna "resonates", where the inductance balances out the capacitance and acts like a radiating resistive load, over a fairly large range of frequencies, not just one. Lucky for us.....it can be made to pass channel 1 and channel 72, fairly reliably, without retuning like you have to do to change channels on the HF SSB antenna. The curve looks kinda like this: | * * SWR| * * | * * | * Frequency If we center the best (lowest) SWR up in the middle of the band, it will have an acceptable SWR (low) on channels on the bottom and top we want, and are allowed to use. Part of the testing, we will test different channels across the marine band to get an idea of what YOUR plot would look like. So, how do we measure SWR??............. For the little meter to measure the antenna, it has to be located INLINE with the RF power, between the transmitter and antenna. IDEALLY, we'd like to adjust the antenna with the SWR meter located between the transmission line, antenna end, and the antenna's coax connector. Obviously, sometimes, this is not practical for a simple test. However, the further you are from the antenna, back down the transmission line, the less the reading is about the antenna SWR and the more the reading is about the cable losing the signal (attenuation and leakage) and the reactivity of the cable, itself. If we measure the SWR at the antenna end, the SWR we measure is only about the antenna. If we measure it where it's easy, at the radio, the reading is about the antenna AND the cable, so you can't tell which is at fault if it sucks. OK, let's assume you're like me, hate heights, weigh too much to haul up on a winch with less than 6 strong arms on a winch handle and the bos'n's chair might not like the load, anyways. So, we'll measure the antenna at the radio end, at least until we find it's all screwed up. Disconnect the antenna from the radio, with the radio off so you don't inadvertently transmit into an open which might do harm to the transmitter. Now you need a "coax jumper" that didn't come with the meter. Radio Shack has them, so get one that's just long enough to hook the meter's RADIO port to the radio so we can still read it and switch the controls. If you'd like to MOUNT the meter on your panel, buy two right-angle UHF 90 degree adapters so we can mount the meter on the front of the panel and the L-shaped connectors will go back through the panel to connect the cables to. That would let you see power output every time you keyed the VHF so you'd be SURE it was transmitting, instead of calling out for a radio check so often. I leave them in SWR to watch the antenna, here. Hook the antenna to the antenna jack and the jumper between the Radio jack and the radio. Turn on the radio and tune it to a commercial channel not monitored by the DEA or USCG around 40-something. Put the meter's little switch in the REFERENCE or SET position and turn the set control all the way to the left, to keep from pegging the meter. Test at FULL POWER so you can see if something up there is arcing at FULL POWER (the meter jumps up in SWR if it is). Key the transmitter and don't talk into the mic. Turn up the SET level "volume" control until the meter reads FULL SCALE, all the way to the SET mark. This sets the reference level of the meter to the power coming out of the radio "under these conditions". Once set to full scale, flip the switch to SWR and pray it drops all the way to 1 on the SWR scale (no reflected power) indicating I was a liar and there IS a perfect antenna system.....Read the pseudo-accurate meter SWR scale. 1 is the left edge (1:1 standing waves - there aren't any standing waves because the antenna is perfect). The next mark up is probably 1.5 with hashmarkes for 1.4, 1.3, 1.2, 1.1, which is silly. Then it's 2:1 then the middle of the meter is 3:1 SWR and there's no marks higher because 3:1 is BAD, BAD, BAD....way too high. Unkey the mic before the cops start looking for you. What does this mean?? Here's the relative power levels of the major points. 1.0 SWR....no reflected power....all 25W is going out on the air 1.5 SWR.....4% reflected power....1 watt is reflected back, 24W goes out and noone notices anything because you couldn't measure 4% out of the lab. 2.0 SWR......10% reflected power...2.5W is reflected back and 22.5 W goes out on the air and STILL noone notices anything unless they are magicians. 3.0 SWR......25% reflected power....6.25W is reflected back and 18.75W goes out on the air. Someone comparing this antenna with your perfect antenna just notices a little movement in his S-meter on the other end if you're weak. 3.0 and above is considered "bad SWR" and something needs to be fixed. CB myths........ 1.01 SWR is good. 1.1 SWR is a disaster. What nonsense. Where do they get this from? ANTENNA MANUFACTURERS selling new antennas, that's where. They made millions from this myth. Wanna see a real broadcast TV station's huge UHF antenna SWR LIVE on the net? Look at: http://www.wzpxtv.com/wzpxtransmitter.htm This a real readout of a powerful +megawatt TV transmitter from WZPX on Channel 44 (with a nice new digital TV transmitter, too!) The software company puts it on the net. SWR tonight on the beast-on-the-mountain is 1.3:1 but I've seen it read 1.8:1 which is really high at these power levels. On your boat, it's not. You don't have thousands of watts coming back down the pipes at you! Ok, now always turn the SET control back to the left before unhooking the meter or changing channels. Do it now..... Ok, make the same measurements on a few channels (not 16, 22A please) across the marine band. Record your SWR results and make a crude chart of them plotting SWR measured against channel (frequency) number like I did above. Is the lowest SWR near the middle of the channel numbers? No? Does the curve at least have a low point (dip) inside the marine band? Yes, but the dip is around Channel 3 and SWR is much higher at Channel 72 (why they could hear you on 16 but not 72 way off). The antenna is tuned too LOW. If it's tunable, we need to shorten the element to raise the resonant frequency. If 1 is high SWR and 72 is low, we need to lengthen the antenna element. Ideal is a curve with its low point somewhere in the middle of the band with less than 2:1 SWR on any channel. The curve shows you where the antenna tuning is and how broadbanded (how many channels will it radiate well). If you measure this curve up at the antenna before all that cable attenuates the SWR reading, it will simply be much more pronounced because the cable attenuates power up as well as it does power down the mast....making our reading weaker by a bit. AS you can see, tuning an antenna ISN'T rocket science. If the channels you use are all less than 2:1, it's fine. If they're less than 1.5:1, it's great. If they're all really low....SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE ANTENNA, THE CABLE OR THE MEASUREMENT, because every antenna has a curve. Ok, we'll now haul a victim....er, ah, volunteer....up the mast to trim the antenna the way it shows in the instructions...... You all should be able to measure SWR just fine with the little meters, now, and have a vague idea of what it means. Please leave the classroom quietly so's not to wake the four students in the back row we lost. (Class quietly leaves, instructor slips out and puts lights out with them still asleep. One once slept right through lunch....(c Larry W4CSC "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!" |
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How to use a simple SWR meter and what it means to your VHF
Good explanation, thanks. Questions:
1) You suggest the possibility of leaving the meter in the line permanently. Doesn't the impedance bump of a PL-259 speak against that? 2) Since the meter is not type accepted, is leaving it in permanently technically an FCC violation? 3) I went to http://www.wzpxtv.com/wzpxtransmitter.htm and saw a bunch of readouts. The readout labeled "VSWR" (which I think is the same thing) was reading 0.80 or 0.70. 4) What do you like other than the cheap white crap for antenna cable? I used Belden 9913 (solid center conductor) on Swee****er. Is that still a good choice? -- Jim Woodward www.mvFintry.com .. .. "Larry W4CSC" wrote in message ... I've seen many posters talk about antennas and know lots of boaters with antenna troubles and no clue how to see how it's doing, way up there, so thought I'd stick my neck into the guillotine and give some basic instructions on what an SWR meter is, what it does, and what it means after you learn how to use it. This will be all about VHF marine band, but is the same for any frequency the meter is made for. FIRST, let me say not all SWR meters are suitable for VHF marine band use. The reason for this has to do with the directional coupler, the part that senses power going this way and power going that way built into your meter. A CB SWR meter is NOT suitable for VHF work. VHF is out of its design range and its directional coupler is too long. Put using a CB SWR meter out of your mind. It's not a good reading. A ham radio VHF SWR meter IS acceptable as its range is usually from 140 to 170 Mhz, which includes our VHF marine band. Most boaters will get the little white Shakespeare VHF power and SWR meter from Waste Marine or some other overpricing boat shop so that's what I'll use for my example. These little passive SWR meters use the RF power of your radio to power the meter and require no batteries or power source. One guy I know got no reading and through the meter had dead batteries in it. There aren't any. His transmitter power amp was kaput....no output. THE CONTROLS. The controls on it are quite simple. There's a switch that switches from POWER OUTPUT to REFERENCE (SETUP) to SWR, a 3-position slide switch. The POWER OUTPUT meter is useless unless you have the ANTENNA jack plugged into a 50 ohm dummy load like the guys at the factory did to calibrate it. Depending on the position of the meter in the line of a defective antenna system, it might read way low or it might peg on 1 watt. Consider it fairly accurate if the SWR of the antenna is quite low (below 1.5 to 1) So, What's SWR??..... SWR (pronounced as three letters, unless you're on CB where it's called "swur" for some reason noone knows) means Standing Wave Ratio. The keyword there is RATIO, a measurement of the peak voltage found on the transmission line in one place, compared to the minimum (trough?) voltage found 1/4 wavelength from that peak in either direction. These peaks and valleys are caused by reflections of an imperfect or off-tuned antenna, bad connectors, kinked transmission lines bent too sharply and a lot of just poor luck. You can watch these waves out by the seawall. If you toss a rock into the water (transmitter) it creates waves that expand out in all directions. When the wave bounces off the seawall, watch what happens. The wave coming in from the stone bounce off the REFLECTIVE seawall and go BACK towards the transmitter, a "reflected power" that wasn't absorbed by the wall. As the reflected waves pass through the incoming waves that haven't reflected, yet, notice how there is a wave that doesn't move.....a Standing Wave that has PEAK positions that stand still a set distance from TROUGH positions, that also stand still. The same exact thing is going on in your antenna system, every time you press that button. In electronics, there are two simple devices that STORE electrons....capacitors that charge (electrostatically) and inductors that store energy (magnetically). If you doubt this, go out and pull the spark plug wire off a running Seagull outboard to test this theory....we'll wait. Ah, I see you're back? Why do you look so "shocked"? Did it work? A perfect RF transmission system perfectly transfers the power from the transmitter to the perfect antenna, which radiates all the power the transmitter put out into the air, blasting all the recievers with your fantastic signal so they can hear your pleas for help. These systems do not exist. The antenna is never tuned to your channel, only close to your channel (we hope) and the transmission line is that cheap white crap from Wasted Marine or RatShack, not rigid coaxial line used by broadcast stations, made to exacting standards. To keep it short, the line and antenna have "reactance", like that wall. And it's that reactance (inductance and capacitance) that cause anomolies that make reflections, like that wall. What can we do? How can we measure how bad it is?............... Most marine antennas are sealed up and "pretuned" for open areas. Not much we can do to "tune" them to the middle of the band. I like old Metz antennas, made by an old ham company, just because I can trim that element for best results. It's tunable. That fishing pole of a fiberglass antenna is actually a little, specially bent wire embedded inside fiberglass to keep it straight (and disintegrate reliably in sunshine so you can replace it, often). "Pruning" the tunable antenna requires us to measure SWR at different frequencies so we can center its curve up on the band we want for best results. What "curve"?? An antenna "resonates", where the inductance balances out the capacitance and acts like a radiating resistive load, over a fairly large range of frequencies, not just one. Lucky for us.....it can be made to pass channel 1 and channel 72, fairly reliably, without retuning like you have to do to change channels on the HF SSB antenna. The curve looks kinda like this: | * * SWR| * * | * * | * Frequency If we center the best (lowest) SWR up in the middle of the band, it will have an acceptable SWR (low) on channels on the bottom and top we want, and are allowed to use. Part of the testing, we will test different channels across the marine band to get an idea of what YOUR plot would look like. So, how do we measure SWR??............. For the little meter to measure the antenna, it has to be located INLINE with the RF power, between the transmitter and antenna. IDEALLY, we'd like to adjust the antenna with the SWR meter located between the transmission line, antenna end, and the antenna's coax connector. Obviously, sometimes, this is not practical for a simple test. However, the further you are from the antenna, back down the transmission line, the less the reading is about the antenna SWR and the more the reading is about the cable losing the signal (attenuation and leakage) and the reactivity of the cable, itself. If we measure the SWR at the antenna end, the SWR we measure is only about the antenna. If we measure it where it's easy, at the radio, the reading is about the antenna AND the cable, so you can't tell which is at fault if it sucks. OK, let's assume you're like me, hate heights, weigh too much to haul up on a winch with less than 6 strong arms on a winch handle and the bos'n's chair might not like the load, anyways. So, we'll measure the antenna at the radio end, at least until we find it's all screwed up. Disconnect the antenna from the radio, with the radio off so you don't inadvertently transmit into an open which might do harm to the transmitter. Now you need a "coax jumper" that didn't come with the meter. Radio Shack has them, so get one that's just long enough to hook the meter's RADIO port to the radio so we can still read it and switch the controls. If you'd like to MOUNT the meter on your panel, buy two right-angle UHF 90 degree adapters so we can mount the meter on the front of the panel and the L-shaped connectors will go back through the panel to connect the cables to. That would let you see power output every time you keyed the VHF so you'd be SURE it was transmitting, instead of calling out for a radio check so often. I leave them in SWR to watch the antenna, here. Hook the antenna to the antenna jack and the jumper between the Radio jack and the radio. Turn on the radio and tune it to a commercial channel not monitored by the DEA or USCG around 40-something. Put the meter's little switch in the REFERENCE or SET position and turn the set control all the way to the left, to keep from pegging the meter. Test at FULL POWER so you can see if something up there is arcing at FULL POWER (the meter jumps up in SWR if it is). Key the transmitter and don't talk into the mic. Turn up the SET level "volume" control until the meter reads FULL SCALE, all the way to the SET mark. This sets the reference level of the meter to the power coming out of the radio "under these conditions". Once set to full scale, flip the switch to SWR and pray it drops all the way to 1 on the SWR scale (no reflected power) indicating I was a liar and there IS a perfect antenna system.....Read the pseudo-accurate meter SWR scale. 1 is the left edge (1:1 standing waves - there aren't any standing waves because the antenna is perfect). The next mark up is probably 1.5 with hashmarkes for 1.4, 1.3, 1.2, 1.1, which is silly. Then it's 2:1 then the middle of the meter is 3:1 SWR and there's no marks higher because 3:1 is BAD, BAD, BAD....way too high. Unkey the mic before the cops start looking for you. What does this mean?? Here's the relative power levels of the major points. 1.0 SWR....no reflected power....all 25W is going out on the air 1.5 SWR.....4% reflected power....1 watt is reflected back, 24W goes out and noone notices anything because you couldn't measure 4% out of the lab. 2.0 SWR......10% reflected power...2.5W is reflected back and 22.5 W goes out on the air and STILL noone notices anything unless they are magicians. 3.0 SWR......25% reflected power....6.25W is reflected back and 18.75W goes out on the air. Someone comparing this antenna with your perfect antenna just notices a little movement in his S-meter on the other end if you're weak. 3.0 and above is considered "bad SWR" and something needs to be fixed. CB myths........ 1.01 SWR is good. 1.1 SWR is a disaster. What nonsense. Where do they get this from? ANTENNA MANUFACTURERS selling new antennas, that's where. They made millions from this myth. Wanna see a real broadcast TV station's huge UHF antenna SWR LIVE on the net? Look at: http://www.wzpxtv.com/wzpxtransmitter.htm This a real readout of a powerful +megawatt TV transmitter from WZPX on Channel 44 (with a nice new digital TV transmitter, too!) The software company puts it on the net. SWR tonight on the beast-on-the-mountain is 1.3:1 but I've seen it read 1.8:1 which is really high at these power levels. On your boat, it's not. You don't have thousands of watts coming back down the pipes at you! Ok, now always turn the SET control back to the left before unhooking the meter or changing channels. Do it now..... Ok, make the same measurements on a few channels (not 16, 22A please) across the marine band. Record your SWR results and make a crude chart of them plotting SWR measured against channel (frequency) number like I did above. Is the lowest SWR near the middle of the channel numbers? No? Does the curve at least have a low point (dip) inside the marine band? Yes, but the dip is around Channel 3 and SWR is much higher at Channel 72 (why they could hear you on 16 but not 72 way off). The antenna is tuned too LOW. If it's tunable, we need to shorten the element to raise the resonant frequency. If 1 is high SWR and 72 is low, we need to lengthen the antenna element. Ideal is a curve with its low point somewhere in the middle of the band with less than 2:1 SWR on any channel. The curve shows you where the antenna tuning is and how broadbanded (how many channels will it radiate well). If you measure this curve up at the antenna before all that cable attenuates the SWR reading, it will simply be much more pronounced because the cable attenuates power up as well as it does power down the mast....making our reading weaker by a bit. AS you can see, tuning an antenna ISN'T rocket science. If the channels you use are all less than 2:1, it's fine. If they're less than 1.5:1, it's great. If they're all really low....SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE ANTENNA, THE CABLE OR THE MEASUREMENT, because every antenna has a curve. Ok, we'll now haul a victim....er, ah, volunteer....up the mast to trim the antenna the way it shows in the instructions...... You all should be able to measure SWR just fine with the little meters, now, and have a vague idea of what it means. Please leave the classroom quietly so's not to wake the four students in the back row we lost. (Class quietly leaves, instructor slips out and puts lights out with them still asleep. One once slept right through lunch....(c Larry W4CSC "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!" |
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How to use a simple SWR meter and what it means to your VHF
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"Doug Dotson" wrote: I prefer a reflected power meter. Much more inruitive than an SWR meter. Converting from RP to SWR is a simple formula as well. Doug, k3qt s/v Callista Nothing like a good Bird Wattmeter, fresh out of the Cal Shop, to see what's going on in an Antenna System. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
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How to use a simple SWR meter and what it means to your VHF
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:41:08 -0500, "Jim Woodward" jameslwoodward at
attbi dot com wrote: 4) What do you like other than the cheap white crap for antenna cable? I used Belden 9913 (solid center conductor) on Swee****er. Is that still a good choice? RG214 or similar which is silver plated Cu in both conductor and shield. Raw copper will in time oxidize and deteriorate in the salty environment. I have seen some really ugly cables after only 5-6 years. /Marcus -- Marcus AAkesson Gothenburg Callsigns: SM6XFN & SB4779 Sweden Keep the world clean - no HTML in news or mail ! |
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How to use a simple SWR meter and what it means to your VHF
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:13:39 GMT, "Charlie J" wrote: Thank you Professor; you explained this operation far more succinctly than I have. Consider yourself plagarized the next time I am explaining SWR to a client ;-) 73- Charlie JTB Marine Service Larry W4CSC "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!" |
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How to use a simple SWR meter and what it means to your VHF
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:41:08 -0500, "Jim Woodward" jameslwoodward at
attbi dot com wrote: Good explanation, thanks. Questions: 1) You suggest the possibility of leaving the meter in the line permanently. Doesn't the impedance bump of a PL-259 speak against that? Another myth. The impedance bump might mean something on 5.4 Ghz, but this is VHF-FM. It makes no difference, whatsoever. Put this myth in the same class as the CBers working hard to correct that 1.1 SWR...(c; 2) Since the meter is not type accepted, is leaving it in permanently technically an FCC violation? No, it's not. It's not an amplifier....... 3) I went to http://www.wzpxtv.com/wzpxtransmitter.htm and saw a bunch of readouts. The readout labeled "VSWR" (which I think is the same thing) was reading 0.80 or 0.70. Hmm.....SWR doesn't come in levels under 1.0, which is perfect. Might have been reflected power in kilowatts at a TV station. 4) What do you like other than the cheap white crap for antenna cable? I used Belden 9913 (solid center conductor) on Swee****er. Is that still a good choice? Belden is the best cable made. It's fine. My tongue-in-cheek comment was about buying only WHITE "marine" coax from Waste Marine. Price has nothing to do with cable quality, especially on boats. An unrelated myth is about cable quality used on cable internet connections. I know someone who was about to rip out all his house cabling because it was RG-59 that was just fine. The cable company is hosed with signal intrusion because they refuse to fix the problem, so tell the customers it's their cable that's the problem. To dispel this nonsense, I invited him to come to see how great my cable internet was and look over my cable installation to get great ideas. He took the bait and made an appointment to come the next day. I disconnected my cable from the modem and hid it by pushing it back into the floor. I took 50' of brown zipcord I use to put up speakers in churches and ran a length from the cable company box out back, down the side of the house, through the window next to my desk and up to a wire to F connector adapter on the back of the modem with screw banana jacks on it...same as outside after this "conversion". He almost died when he saw the installation just hangin' there......and working perfectly on the screen. I was watching Saudi TV at 300kbps when he came through the door. He didn't rewire the house. We found a cable guy to fix the street feed two houses down, the one with the open shield..... I put the coax back on my modem so none of the neighbors would be seeing double on channels 2, 4, 5, 7, 24 and 36 from the zipcord...(c; Larry W4CSC "Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!" |
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