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GPS Anchor Drag Alarm Ideas?
My GPS (with an anchor drag alarm feature) is not located in sleeping berth.
Even even if it were, its alarm is barely audible, and certainly not adequate to arouse a person from a sound sleep (unless the GPS were strapped to one's ear.). Additionally, a GPS antenna wire would need to be run to the berth -- not a big problem, but what's the point if one can't hear the alarm anyway. Perhaps there's some kind low-power amplifier that could be placed next to the GPS, or possibly a transmitter with remote alarm receiver. But it might need to be tunable, so just any kind of noise doesn't set it off. I was hoping that there might be a defined NMEA sentence output by the GPS when an anchor drag condition is sensed, but none exits from what I've been told. If there were, it might be possible to detect it in order to trigger a loud alarm of some type. Would welcome any and all suggestions for off-the-shelf or custom anchor drag alarm systems. Thanks, Len -- Eliminate "ns" for email address. |
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GPS Anchor Drag Alarm Ideas?
Len Krauss wrote:
My GPS (with an anchor drag alarm feature) is not located in sleeping berth. Even even if it were, its alarm is barely audible, and certainly not adequate to arouse a person from a sound sleep (unless the GPS were strapped to one's ear.). Additionally, a GPS antenna wire would need to be run to the berth -- not a big problem, but what's the point if one can't hear the alarm anyway. Perhaps there's some kind low-power amplifier that could be placed next to the GPS, or possibly a transmitter with remote alarm receiver. But it might need to be tunable, so just any kind of noise doesn't set it off. I was hoping that there might be a defined NMEA sentence output by the GPS when an anchor drag condition is sensed, but none exits from what I've been told. If there were, it might be possible to detect it in order to trigger a loud alarm of some type. Would welcome any and all suggestions for off-the-shelf or custom anchor drag alarm systems. Thanks, Len For those who have electronic navigation, using a laptop, Oziexplorer's latest downloadable programme has an anchor watch facility, and the setup is excellent, giving you the possiblity of connecting the laptop to any speaker or PA system you might have available. The setup also allows the user to set variable diameter concentric rings to suit the conditions and local anchorage details. The version number is 3.95.3c. Remove "nospam" from return address. |
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Hi Len,
several options, ranging from simple to complex! theres probably a commercial system out there, but I like making stuff: 1) hows about a baby alarm\monitor?and turn the volume up? http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...roductId=56105 2) If you can find a mains powered buzzer with a plug on the end of it, simply get one of those remote controlled home automation plugs http://maplin.co.uk/products/module....duleno =32076 and cannibalise the remote control to hook it up to the GPS alarm line. You could get it to turn the lights on too then! 3) My GPS has an alarm output line on it, which I use to switch a relay on a simple radio tramsmitter module. The receiver sits anywhere on the boat and simply latches on a buzzer when the alarm condition is on. I have a Garmin GPS128 http://www.garmin.com/manuals/82_OwnersManual.pdf page 63 shows the alarm line. I had some remote control modules knocking about from Maplin here in the UK http://www.maplin.co.uk/products/mod...8&P roducts=4 (initially from rf solutions) tie the transmitter switch to the output from the GPS alarm line (how good is your electronics?). Put a relay on one of the reciever outputs to drive a loud buzzer (make sure the receiver output latches on). I then glued the receiver to a 12V power adapter and plugged it in in the cabin (uses about 10mA on standby) it's got a battery in it too which will last a few days. This works great - no false alarms as the keyfob transmitter uses a code to transmit. Problem with this is that you can't tell when the unit is out of range, other than testing it. Solution is further down. 3) If your GPS doesn't have an alarm line, you could canibalise one of the whistle-responding keyrings to get this to switch the transmitter - just pop it next to your GPS at night - again make sure the receiver latches on. (and your alarm goes off continuously until you switch it off) 4) If you are better at electronics, you can use simple radio modules to transmit the alarm line state from the GPS over a link AND have some monitor for if the wireless link goes dead. I have built a version using Radiometrix radio modules which have received signal strength indicators http://www.radiometrix.co.uk/products/rx2a.htm You can't simply plug the GPS alarm line into these though, as there are duty cycle restrictions (data can't be a "1" for more than 50% of the time I think) so you have to encode it - one way is with their encoder chips, but I just used a 555 astable multivibrator circuit to make a square wave signal to transmit, and used the alarm output line from the GPS to cut off the power to the transmitter. At the receiver end, simply hook a relay\transistor to the RSSI indicator line. If it goes out either the radio link is bad, or the anchor alarm has gone off, both of which you want to be awake for. If you are really have too much time on your hands, you can do it with NMEA. I have written a custom anchor alarm program for use with my laptop and wireless NMEA links (see previous message "Wireless navigation - it works!" 7th Jan 04,) which simply gets the current position from NMEA sentences transmitted from the GPS upstairs, compares the current position with a previous stored position (stored when you press the 'set' button), does the maths to see if you have drifted a certain distance away from your setpoint (just like your GPS drag alarm.) and beeps at you if it does Good thing about this method is you can also have an alarm on the depth reading from your echo if you have this wired up to NMEA too, although the drag alarm does the real work. Bad thing is you need a laptop plugged in all night AND the wireless NMEA links\NMEA downstairs AND the software I could give you the software, but it'll cost you £800 (GBP) as that is how much a licence for the language I wrote it in costs (no-I didn't use C++ - I wrote it whilst on breaks at work!) You might as well go for that OzziExplorer program! Hope this helps Steve Cowley Manchester, England "Len Krauss" wrote in message ... My GPS (with an anchor drag alarm feature) is not located in sleeping berth. Even even if it were, its alarm is barely audible, and certainly not adequate to arouse a person from a sound sleep (unless the GPS were strapped to one's ear.). Additionally, a GPS antenna wire would need to be run to the berth -- not a big problem, but what's the point if one can't hear the alarm anyway. Perhaps there's some kind low-power amplifier that could be placed next to the GPS, or possibly a transmitter with remote alarm receiver. But it might need to be tunable, so just any kind of noise doesn't set it off. I was hoping that there might be a defined NMEA sentence output by the GPS when an anchor drag condition is sensed, but none exits from what I've been told. If there were, it might be possible to detect it in order to trigger a loud alarm of some type. Would welcome any and all suggestions for off-the-shelf or custom anchor drag alarm systems. Thanks, Len -- Eliminate "ns" for email address. |
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GPS Anchor Drag Alarm Ideas?
Hi Steve,
Interesting ideas. Thanks. My sailboat's battery won't allow most, like leaving a notebook PC running all night or an inverter. And I sure don't want to have stuff operated by batteries that need to be replaced if it can be avoided. Unlike your GPS 128, my handhelds (2- GPS 48s) do not have an alarm connection. But I think that the GPS 128 would be the way to accomplish what I want. I have a loud 12vdc piezo siren that draws 150mA -- will the GPS 128 run it? Do you know of other smallish, inexpensive GPS receivers that have an anchor drag alarm-out feature? I'd sure like to find a little one that has it plus is WAAS enabled. I don't need chartplotting. Thanks, Len Florida USA -- Eliminate "ns" for email address. "Steve Cowley" wrote in message ... Hi Len, several options, ranging from simple to complex! theres probably a commercial system out there, but I like making stuff: 1) hows about a baby alarm\monitor?and turn the volume up? http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...roductId=56105 2) If you can find a mains powered buzzer with a plug on the end of it, simply get one of those remote controlled home automation plugs http://maplin.co.uk/products/module....duleno =32076 and cannibalise the remote control to hook it up to the GPS alarm line. You could get it to turn the lights on too then! 3) My GPS has an alarm output line on it, which I use to switch a relay on a simple radio tramsmitter module. The receiver sits anywhere on the boat and simply latches on a buzzer when the alarm condition is on. I have a Garmin GPS128 http://www.garmin.com/manuals/82_OwnersManual.pdf page 63 shows the alarm line. I had some remote control modules knocking about from Maplin here in the UK http://www.maplin.co.uk/products/mod...8&P roducts=4 (initially from rf solutions) tie the transmitter switch to the output from the GPS alarm line (how good is your electronics?). Put a relay on one of the reciever outputs to drive a loud buzzer (make sure the receiver output latches on). I then glued the receiver to a 12V power adapter and plugged it in in the cabin (uses about 10mA on standby) it's got a battery in it too which will last a few days. This works great - no false alarms as the keyfob transmitter uses a code to transmit. Problem with this is that you can't tell when the unit is out of range, other than testing it. Solution is further down. 3) If your GPS doesn't have an alarm line, you could canibalise one of the whistle-responding keyrings to get this to switch the transmitter - just pop it next to your GPS at night - again make sure the receiver latches on. (and your alarm goes off continuously until you switch it off) 4) If you are better at electronics, you can use simple radio modules to transmit the alarm line state from the GPS over a link AND have some monitor for if the wireless link goes dead. I have built a version using Radiometrix radio modules which have received signal strength indicators http://www.radiometrix.co.uk/products/rx2a.htm You can't simply plug the GPS alarm line into these though, as there are duty cycle restrictions (data can't be a "1" for more than 50% of the time I think) so you have to encode it - one way is with their encoder chips, but I just used a 555 astable multivibrator circuit to make a square wave signal to transmit, and used the alarm output line from the GPS to cut off the power to the transmitter. At the receiver end, simply hook a relay\transistor to the RSSI indicator line. If it goes out either the radio link is bad, or the anchor alarm has gone off, both of which you want to be awake for. If you are really have too much time on your hands, you can do it with NMEA. I have written a custom anchor alarm program for use with my laptop and wireless NMEA links (see previous message "Wireless navigation - it works!" 7th Jan 04,) which simply gets the current position from NMEA sentences transmitted from the GPS upstairs, compares the current position with a previous stored position (stored when you press the 'set' button), does the maths to see if you have drifted a certain distance away from your setpoint (just like your GPS drag alarm.) and beeps at you if it does Good thing about this method is you can also have an alarm on the depth reading from your echo if you have this wired up to NMEA too, although the drag alarm does the real work. Bad thing is you need a laptop plugged in all night AND the wireless NMEA links\NMEA downstairs AND the software I could give you the software, but it'll cost you £800 (GBP) as that is how much a licence for the language I wrote it in costs (no-I didn't use ++ - I wrote it whilst on breaks at work!) You might as well go for that OzziExplorer program! Hope this helps Steve Cowley Manchester, England "Len Krauss" wrote in message ... My GPS (with an anchor drag alarm feature) is not located in sleeping berth. Even even if it were, its alarm is barely audible, and certainly not adequate to arouse a person from a sound sleep (unless the GPS were strapped to one's ear.). Additionally, a GPS antenna wire would need to be run to the berth -- not a big problem, but what's the point if one can't hear the alarm anyway. Perhaps there's some kind low-power amplifier that could be placed next to the GPS, or possibly a transmitter with remote alarm receiver. But it might need to be tunable, so just any kind of noise doesn't set it off. I was hoping that there might be a defined NMEA sentence output by the GPS when an anchor drag condition is sensed, but none exits from what I've been told. If there were, it might be possible to detect it in order to trigger a loud alarm of some type. Would welcome any and all suggestions for off-the-shelf or custom anchor drag alarm systems. Thanks, Len -- Eliminate "ns" for email address. |
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GPS Anchor Drag Alarm Ideas?
Some GPS's (Like Northstar) have a contact closure on the Data Cable. This can
be set up to go to an external Alarm I'E Siren or I have even hooked this up to a vessels horns to alert the crew when they are in the bar that there anchor is dragging. What kind of GPS do you have? Check and see if it has a contact closure wires in the manual. If so it is a very easy setup. BC |
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GPS Anchor Drag Alarm Ideas?
Get a baby monitor and put the transmitter next to the GPS, the receiver
next to your head. "Len Krauss" wrote in message ... My GPS (with an anchor drag alarm feature) is not located in sleeping berth. Even even if it were, its alarm is barely audible, and certainly not adequate to arouse a person from a sound sleep (unless the GPS were strapped to one's ear.). Additionally, a GPS antenna wire would need to be run to the berth -- not a big problem, but what's the point if one can't hear the alarm anyway. Perhaps there's some kind low-power amplifier that could be placed next to the GPS, or possibly a transmitter with remote alarm receiver. But it might need to be tunable, so just any kind of noise doesn't set it off. I was hoping that there might be a defined NMEA sentence output by the GPS when an anchor drag condition is sensed, but none exits from what I've been told. If there were, it might be possible to detect it in order to trigger a loud alarm of some type. Would welcome any and all suggestions for off-the-shelf or custom anchor drag alarm systems. Thanks, Len -- Eliminate "ns" for email address. |
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GPS Anchor Drag Alarm Ideas?
i am looking for a used "cheap" gps with a remote antena to put in the aft
cabin. Can't hear with the genny and air on. |
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GPS Anchor Drag Alarm Ideas?
Hi Len,
Garmin say their anchor alarm line can only sink 100mA, so you will have to use a relay to switch your siren. Easily done. see http://www.stevecowley.com/diving/alarm.html for a simple schematic (apologies for the poor drawing skills!). Will cost about a dollar and draws no extra current unless the alarm is going off. The garmin model similar to the GPS128 with WAAS is the GPS152. This has the same alarm line output. I like our GPS128., but Im sure there are perhaps cheaper\smaller units out there. Hope this helps Steve "Len Krauss" wrote in message ... Hi Steve, Interesting ideas. Thanks. My sailboat's battery won't allow most, like leaving a notebook PC running all night or an inverter. And I sure don't want to have stuff operated by batteries that need to be replaced if it can be avoided. Unlike your GPS 128, my handhelds (2- GPS 48s) do not have an alarm connection. But I think that the GPS 128 would be the way to accomplish what I want. I have a loud 12vdc piezo siren that draws 150mA -- will the GPS 128 run it? Do you know of other smallish, inexpensive GPS receivers that have an anchor drag alarm-out feature? I'd sure like to find a little one that has it plus is WAAS enabled. I don't need chartplotting. Thanks, Len Florida USA -- Eliminate "ns" for email address. "Steve Cowley" wrote in message ... Hi Len, several options, ranging from simple to complex! theres probably a commercial system out there, but I like making stuff: 1) hows about a baby alarm\monitor?and turn the volume up? http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...roductId=56105 2) If you can find a mains powered buzzer with a plug on the end of it, simply get one of those remote controlled home automation plugs http://maplin.co.uk/products/module....duleno =32076 and cannibalise the remote control to hook it up to the GPS alarm line. You could get it to turn the lights on too then! 3) My GPS has an alarm output line on it, which I use to switch a relay on a simple radio tramsmitter module. The receiver sits anywhere on the boat and simply latches on a buzzer when the alarm condition is on. I have a Garmin GPS128 http://www.garmin.com/manuals/82_OwnersManual.pdf page 63 shows the alarm line. I had some remote control modules knocking about from Maplin here in the UK http://www.maplin.co.uk/products/mod...8&P roducts=4 (initially from rf solutions) tie the transmitter switch to the output from the GPS alarm line (how good is your electronics?). Put a relay on one of the reciever outputs to drive a loud buzzer (make sure the receiver output latches on). I then glued the receiver to a 12V power adapter and plugged it in in the cabin (uses about 10mA on standby) it's got a battery in it too which will last a few days. This works great - no false alarms as the keyfob transmitter uses a code to transmit. Problem with this is that you can't tell when the unit is out of range, other than testing it. Solution is further down. 3) If your GPS doesn't have an alarm line, you could canibalise one of the whistle-responding keyrings to get this to switch the transmitter - just pop it next to your GPS at night - again make sure the receiver latches on. (and your alarm goes off continuously until you switch it off) 4) If you are better at electronics, you can use simple radio modules to transmit the alarm line state from the GPS over a link AND have some monitor for if the wireless link goes dead. I have built a version using Radiometrix radio modules which have received signal strength indicators http://www.radiometrix.co.uk/products/rx2a.htm You can't simply plug the GPS alarm line into these though, as there are duty cycle restrictions (data can't be a "1" for more than 50% of the time I think) so you have to encode it - one way is with their encoder chips, but I just used a 555 astable multivibrator circuit to make a square wave signal to transmit, and used the alarm output line from the GPS to cut off the power to the transmitter. At the receiver end, simply hook a relay\transistor to the RSSI indicator line. If it goes out either the radio link is bad, or the anchor alarm has gone off, both of which you want to be awake for. If you are really have too much time on your hands, you can do it with NMEA. I have written a custom anchor alarm program for use with my laptop and wireless NMEA links (see previous message "Wireless navigation - it works!" 7th Jan 04,) which simply gets the current position from NMEA sentences transmitted from the GPS upstairs, compares the current position with a previous stored position (stored when you press the 'set' button), does the maths to see if you have drifted a certain distance away from your setpoint (just like your GPS drag alarm.) and beeps at you if it does Good thing about this method is you can also have an alarm on the depth reading from your echo if you have this wired up to NMEA too, although the drag alarm does the real work. Bad thing is you need a laptop plugged in all night AND the wireless NMEA links\NMEA downstairs AND the software I could give you the software, but it'll cost you £800 (GBP) as that is how much a licence for the language I wrote it in costs (no-I didn't use ++ - I wrote it whilst on breaks at work!) You might as well go for that OzziExplorer program! Hope this helps Steve Cowley Manchester, England "Len Krauss" wrote in message ... My GPS (with an anchor drag alarm feature) is not located in sleeping berth. Even even if it were, its alarm is barely audible, and certainly not adequate to arouse a person from a sound sleep (unless the GPS were strapped to one's ear.). Additionally, a GPS antenna wire would need to be run to the berth -- not a big problem, but what's the point if one can't hear the alarm anyway. Perhaps there's some kind low-power amplifier that could be placed next to the GPS, or possibly a transmitter with remote alarm receiver. But it might need to be tunable, so just any kind of noise doesn't set it off. I was hoping that there might be a defined NMEA sentence output by the GPS when an anchor drag condition is sensed, but none exits from what I've been told. If there were, it might be possible to detect it in order to trigger a loud alarm of some type. Would welcome any and all suggestions for off-the-shelf or custom anchor drag alarm systems. Thanks, Len -- Eliminate "ns" for email address. |
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Hi Steve,
Thanks for that alram-out power limit tip and the excellent schematic! Len -- Eliminate "ns" for email address. "Steve Cowley" wrote in message ... Hi Len, Garmin say their anchor alarm line can only sink 100mA, so you will have to use a relay to switch your siren. Easily done. see http://www.stevecowley.com/diving/alarm.html for a simple schematic (apologies for the poor drawing skills!). Will cost about a dollar and draws no extra current unless the alarm is going off. The garmin model similar to the GPS128 with WAAS is the GPS152. This has the same alarm line output. I like our GPS128., but Im sure there are perhaps cheaper\smaller units out there. Hope this helps Steve "Len Krauss" wrote in message ... Hi Steve, Interesting ideas. Thanks. My sailboat's battery won't allow most, like leaving a notebook PC running all night or an inverter. And I sure don't want to have stuff operated by batteries that need to be replaced if it can be avoided. Unlike your GPS 128, my handhelds (2- GPS 48s) do not have an alarm connection. But I think that the GPS 128 would be the way to accomplish what I want. I have a loud 12vdc piezo siren that draws 150mA -- will the GPS 128 run it? Do you know of other smallish, inexpensive GPS receivers that have an anchor drag alarm-out feature? I'd sure like to find a little one that has it plus is WAAS enabled. I don't need chartplotting. Thanks, Len Florida USA -- Eliminate "ns" for email address. "Steve Cowley" wrote in message ... Hi Len, several options, ranging from simple to complex! theres probably a commercial system out there, but I like making stuff: 1) hows about a baby alarm\monitor?and turn the volume up? http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...roductId=56105 2) If you can find a mains powered buzzer with a plug on the end of it, simply get one of those remote controlled home automation plugs http://maplin.co.uk/products/module....duleno =32076 and cannibalise the remote control to hook it up to the GPS alarm line. You could get it to turn the lights on too then! 3) My GPS has an alarm output line on it, which I use to switch a relay on a simple radio tramsmitter module. The receiver sits anywhere on the boat and simply latches on a buzzer when the alarm condition is on. I have a Garmin GPS128 http://www.garmin.com/manuals/82_OwnersManual.pdf page 63 shows the alarm line. I had some remote control modules knocking about from Maplin here in the UK http://www.maplin.co.uk/products/mod...8&P roducts=4 (initially from rf solutions) tie the transmitter switch to the output from the GPS alarm line (how good is your electronics?). Put a relay on one of the reciever outputs to drive a loud buzzer (make sure the receiver output latches on). I then glued the receiver to a 12V power adapter and plugged it in in the cabin (uses about 10mA on standby) it's got a battery in it too which will last a few days. This works great - no false alarms as the keyfob transmitter uses a code to transmit. Problem with this is that you can't tell when the unit is out of range, other than testing it. Solution is further down. 3) If your GPS doesn't have an alarm line, you could canibalise one of the whistle-responding keyrings to get this to switch the transmitter - just pop it next to your GPS at night - again make sure the receiver latches on. (and your alarm goes off continuously until you switch it off) 4) If you are better at electronics, you can use simple radio modules to transmit the alarm line state from the GPS over a link AND have some monitor for if the wireless link goes dead. I have built a version using Radiometrix radio modules which have received signal strength indicators http://www.radiometrix.co.uk/products/rx2a.htm You can't simply plug the GPS alarm line into these though, as there are duty cycle restrictions (data can't be a "1" for more than 50% of the time I think) so you have to encode it - one way is with their encoder chips, but I just used a 555 astable multivibrator circuit to make a square wave signal to transmit, and used the alarm output line from the GPS to cut off the power to the transmitter. At the receiver end, simply hook a relay\transistor to the RSSI indicator line. If it goes out either the radio link is bad, or the anchor alarm has gone off, both of which you want to be awake for. If you are really have too much time on your hands, you can do it with NMEA. I have written a custom anchor alarm program for use with my laptop and wireless NMEA links (see previous message "Wireless navigation - it works!" 7th Jan 04,) which simply gets the current position from NMEA sentences transmitted from the GPS upstairs, compares the current position with a previous stored position (stored when you press the 'set' button), does the maths to see if you have drifted a certain distance away from your setpoint (just like your GPS drag alarm.) and beeps at you if it does Good thing about this method is you can also have an alarm on the depth reading from your echo if you have this wired up to NMEA too, although the drag alarm does the real work. Bad thing is you need a laptop plugged in all night AND the wireless NMEA links\NMEA downstairs AND the software I could give you the software, but it'll cost you £800 (GBP) as that is how much a licence for the language I wrote it in costs (no-I didn't use ++ - I wrote it whilst on breaks at work!) You might as well go for that OzziExplorer program! Hope this helps Steve Cowley Manchester, England "Len Krauss" wrote in message ... My GPS (with an anchor drag alarm feature) is not located in sleeping berth. Even even if it were, its alarm is barely audible, and certainly not adequate to arouse a person from a sound sleep (unless the GPS were strapped to one's ear.). Additionally, a GPS antenna wire would need to be run to the berth -- not a big problem, but what's the point if one can't hear the alarm anyway. Perhaps there's some kind low-power amplifier that could be placed next to the GPS, or possibly a transmitter with remote alarm receiver. But it might need to be tunable, so just any kind of noise doesn't set it off. I was hoping that there might be a defined NMEA sentence output by the GPS when an anchor drag condition is sensed, but none exits from what I've been told. If there were, it might be possible to detect it in order to trigger a loud alarm of some type. Would welcome any and all suggestions for off-the-shelf or custom anchor drag alarm systems. Thanks, Len -- Eliminate "ns" for email address. |
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"Len Krauss" wrote in message ... My GPS (with an anchor drag alarm feature) is not located in sleeping berth. You don't mention what kind of GPS you have - but are you sure there is no means to connect an external alarm? My GPS (a Raymarine 420) had a totally useless "alarm" that wouldn't wake a sleeping mouse, so I pulled it to bits and connected an external alarm. I subsequently discovered that Raymarine will actually do this as a free after market mod, realising that it was a bit dumb to ever build something with an inaudible alarm. |
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