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GPS output to multiple devices
How do I wire my GPS to multiple devices?
I have a Garmin GPS 12 (handheld) mounted on the instrument panel. I use the Garmin PC/DC cable to get 12 volt power from my utility lighter, and to connect to a serial connector. I have a Furuno 1622 radar with a Furuno NMEA cable, to which I added a serial cable to connect to the Garmin PC cable. That works great: lat/long, waypoints, course and speed displayed on the radar. I'm replacing my VHF radio with one that has DSC and NMEA input. The NMEA input plug looks like that on a stereo headset cord. How do I get the GPS wired to that and the radar serial connector? |
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You can easily make a Tee type of cable that has multiple NEMA outputs.
Generally speaking you are not supposed to do this but we have had excellent results running 2 devices requiring NEMA data. Most serial devices do not pull enough current to drop the 5 volt signal signficantly. The manufacturer of your radio should be able to tell you which part of the stereo plug is ground and which part is NEMA data in. Lisa www.ultimatepassage.com William G. Andersen wrote: How do I wire my GPS to multiple devices? I have a Garmin GPS 12 (handheld) mounted on the instrument panel. I use the Garmin PC/DC cable to get 12 volt power from my utility lighter, and to connect to a serial connector. I have a Furuno 1622 radar with a Furuno NMEA cable, to which I added a serial cable to connect to the Garmin PC cable. That works great: lat/long, waypoints, course and speed displayed on the radar. I'm replacing my VHF radio with one that has DSC and NMEA input. The NMEA input plug looks like that on a stereo headset cord. How do I get the GPS wired to that and the radar serial connector? |
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Lisa,
NMEA interfaces are slow and bit serial (EIA RS-232). The protocol is very basic and there is no provision for either addressing or data collisions. As you stated, your solution is incorrect, the device to use is called a statmux or statistical multiplexor in general. Specifically, there are multiplexors available for this purpose that prevent data collisions and allow orderly sentence broadcast. Contact a qualified nav equipment dealer for further info. These devices are inexpensive and available. Steve "Lisa Collins" wrote in message ... You can easily make a Tee type of cable that has multiple NEMA outputs. Generally speaking you are not supposed to do this but we have had excellent results running 2 devices requiring NEMA data. Most serial devices do not pull enough current to drop the 5 volt signal signficantly. The manufacturer of your radio should be able to tell you which part of the stereo plug is ground and which part is NEMA data in. Lisa www.ultimatepassage.com William G. Andersen wrote: How do I wire my GPS to multiple devices? I have a Garmin GPS 12 (handheld) mounted on the instrument panel. I use the Garmin PC/DC cable to get 12 volt power from my utility lighter, and to connect to a serial connector. I have a Furuno 1622 radar with a Furuno NMEA cable, to which I added a serial cable to connect to the Garmin PC cable. That works great: lat/long, waypoints, course and speed displayed on the radar. I'm replacing my VHF radio with one that has DSC and NMEA input. The NMEA input plug looks like that on a stereo headset cord. How do I get the GPS wired to that and the radar serial connector? |
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 19:50:12 +0200, "Steve Lusardi"
wrote: Lisa, NMEA interfaces are slow and bit serial (EIA RS-232). The protocol is very basic and there is no provision for either addressing or data collisions. As you stated, your solution is incorrect, the device to use is called a statmux or statistical multiplexor in general. Specifically, there are multiplexors available for this purpose that prevent data collisions and allow orderly sentence broadcast. Contact a qualified nav equipment dealer for further info. These devices are inexpensive and available. Steve Since Lisa was only proposing a single "talker" a mux is superfluous. No collisions could occur. The only issue is whether the two loads would reduce the signal too much. But, since you mention it, where are there inexpensive muxes? I had one once until it was hit by lightning, but it was very expensive at the time. Thanks Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a "Wanting to meet a writer because you like his work is like wanting to meet a duck because you like pate." Margaret Atwood |
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The manual with my Garmin GPS48 states that it will drive 4 listeners. I
have it connected to the autopilot NMEA input, VHF DSC input, computer input, and Pactor IIe input. Works OK.All devices get and process the GPS NMEA sentences. Kelton s/v Isle Escape Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote: On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 19:50:12 +0200, "Steve Lusardi" wrote: Lisa, NMEA interfaces are slow and bit serial (EIA RS-232). The protocol is very basic and there is no provision for either addressing or data collisions. As you stated, your solution is incorrect, the device to use is called a statmux or statistical multiplexor in general. Specifically, there are multiplexors available for this purpose that prevent data collisions and allow orderly sentence broadcast. Contact a qualified nav equipment dealer for further info. These devices are inexpensive and available. Steve Since Lisa was only proposing a single "talker" a mux is superfluous. No collisions could occur. The only issue is whether the two loads would reduce the signal too much. But, since you mention it, where are there inexpensive muxes? I had one once until it was hit by lightning, but it was very expensive at the time. Thanks Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a "Wanting to meet a writer because you like his work is like wanting to meet a duck because you like pate." Margaret Atwood |
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Użytkownik "William G. Andersen" napisał w wiadomo¶ci news:8UVTc.8062$yh.5539@fed1read05... How do I wire my GPS to multiple devices? I found it very useful http://www.cactusnav.com/brochures_guides.htm http://www.cactusnav.com/BrochureRac...EA%20Guide.pdf Greetings from Poland Tomek |
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"Rodney Myrvaagnes" wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 19:50:12 +0200, "Steve Lusardi" wrote: Lisa, NMEA interfaces are slow and bit serial (EIA RS-232). The protocol is very basic and there is no provision for either addressing or data collisions. As you stated, your solution is incorrect, the device to use is called a statmux or statistical multiplexor in general. Specifically, there are multiplexors available for this purpose that prevent data collisions and allow orderly sentence broadcast. Contact a qualified nav equipment dealer for further info. These devices are inexpensive and available. Steve Since Lisa was only proposing a single "talker" a mux is superfluous. No collisions could occur. The only issue is whether the two loads would reduce the signal too much. But, since you mention it, where are there inexpensive muxes? I had one once until it was hit by lightning, but it was very expensive at the time. Thanks Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a Two loads of the type described will definitely not create a problem. I concur with your statement that a MUX is superfluous. Not sure what you consider inexpensive re mux's, but there's a Kiwi company called Brookstone which markets several flavors, the cheapest of which goes for $149. I have one, and it works fine. Max Lynn First 40.7 Tranquility |
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Steve,
Actually a mulxtiplexer is designed to compress multiple serial lines into a single physical proprietary formatted data stream. This single line may be connected directly to a modem, frame relay or even tunneled on a TCP/IP connection to a second multiplex whose job is to split the connection back into distinct serial lines. A typical 4 port multiplexer system would like like this: +----------+ +----------+ device 1--| | | |--device1 | | | | device 2--| |wire/phone | |--device2 | Mux |-------------| Mux | device 3--| | | |--device3 | | | | device 4--| | | |--device4 +----------+ +----------+ The point of using a multiplexer is to maintain separate physical connections between the local and remote sides while only using a single resource (typically a phone line). Each device maintains its independence i.e. device 1 on the local side can only talk to device 1 on the remote side, etc. This is exactly Mr Anderson doesn't want to do. In fact, in Mr. Anderson's orignal post, he explicitly states that he has a single broadcaster and multiple receivers. There can be no collisons. The only question is whether the sum of the current draws of the the receivers is enough of a current sink to pull down the 5 volt transmitter source. Steve Lusardi wrote: Lisa, NMEA interfaces are slow and bit serial (EIA RS-232). The protocol is very basic and there is no provision for either addressing or data collisions. As you stated, your solution is incorrect, the device to use is called a statmux or statistical multiplexor in general. Specifically, there are multiplexors available for this purpose that prevent data collisions and allow orderly sentence broadcast. Contact a qualified nav equipment dealer for further info. These devices are inexpensive and available. Steve "Lisa Collins" wrote in message ... You can easily make a Tee type of cable that has multiple NEMA outputs. Generally speaking you are not supposed to do this but we have had excellent results running 2 devices requiring NEMA data. Most serial devices do not pull enough current to drop the 5 volt signal signficantly. The manufacturer of your radio should be able to tell you which part of the stereo plug is ground and which part is NEMA data in. Lisa www.ultimatepassage.com William G. Andersen wrote: How do I wire my GPS to multiple devices? I have a Garmin GPS 12 (handheld) mounted on the instrument panel. I use the Garmin PC/DC cable to get 12 volt power from my utility lighter, and to connect to a serial connector. I have a Furuno 1622 radar with a Furuno NMEA cable, to which I added a serial cable to connect to the Garmin PC cable. That works great: lat/long, waypoints, course and speed displayed on the radar. I'm replacing my VHF radio with one that has DSC and NMEA input. The NMEA input plug looks like that on a stereo headset cord. How do I get the GPS wired to that and the radar serial connector? |
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Thanks, Lisa: guess I'll go to a Radio Shack and see what they have to make
a Tee type of cable. My few previous experiences with the local store were frustrating because they were just sales clerks and didn't understand what I wanted to do, so they couldn't offer any help. "Lisa Collins" wrote in message ... You can easily make a Tee type of cable that has multiple NEMA outputs. Generally speaking you are not supposed to do this but we have had excellent results running 2 devices requiring NEMA data. Most serial devices do not pull enough current to drop the 5 volt signal signficantly. The manufacturer of your radio should be able to tell you which part of the stereo plug is ground and which part is NEMA data in. Lisa www.ultimatepassage.com William G. Andersen wrote: How do I wire my GPS to multiple devices? I have a Garmin GPS 12 (handheld) mounted on the instrument panel. I use the Garmin PC/DC cable to get 12 volt power from my utility lighter, and to connect to a serial connector. I have a Furuno 1622 radar with a Furuno NMEA cable, to which I added a serial cable to connect to the Garmin PC cable. That works great: lat/long, waypoints, course and speed displayed on the radar. I'm replacing my VHF radio with one that has DSC and NMEA input. The NMEA input plug looks like that on a stereo headset cord. How do I get the GPS wired to that and the radar serial connector? |
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Kelton,
You seem to have done what I want to do. How did you physically connect one Garmin to four devices? What parts/connections did you buy? "Kelton Joyner" wrote in message ... The manual with my Garmin GPS48 states that it will drive 4 listeners. I have it connected to the autopilot NMEA input, VHF DSC input, computer input, and Pactor IIe input. Works OK.All devices get and process the GPS NMEA sentences. Kelton s/v Isle Escape Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote: On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 19:50:12 +0200, "Steve Lusardi" wrote: Lisa, NMEA interfaces are slow and bit serial (EIA RS-232). The protocol is very basic and there is no provision for either addressing or data collisions. As you stated, your solution is incorrect, the device to use is called a statmux or statistical multiplexor in general. Specifically, there are multiplexors available for this purpose that prevent data collisions and allow orderly sentence broadcast. Contact a qualified nav equipment dealer for further info. These devices are inexpensive and available. Steve Since Lisa was only proposing a single "talker" a mux is superfluous. No collisions could occur. The only issue is whether the two loads would reduce the signal too much. But, since you mention it, where are there inexpensive muxes? I had one once until it was hit by lightning, but it was very expensive at the time. Thanks Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a "Wanting to meet a writer because you like his work is like wanting to meet a duck because you like pate." Margaret Atwood |
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