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I have a 1989 model Marinette Sedan Cruiser with twin Chrysler 318
engines. the alternator on the starboard engine was not putting out. Voltmeters at both helm stations reading around 12v with engine running 1500-2000rpm. Checked at output terminal to ground 12v. Port engine checks 13.8v at same place. I had the alternator rebuilt. Same thing! I have cleaned all contacts to insure proper grounding. Checked exciter voltage. It is 12volt with engine running. The only thing left I can think of is direction of rotation. Does this matter? The port engine is left hand rotation and the starboard is right hand rotation. I wonder if the alternator needs to be special. Anyone know? Thanks. Cal |
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Direction of rotation should not affect the power output. There is
a potential issue with cooling though. I believe the fins are angled for proper operation in one direction only. Doug s/v Callista "cal" wrote in message ... I have a 1989 model Marinette Sedan Cruiser with twin Chrysler 318 engines. the alternator on the starboard engine was not putting out. Voltmeters at both helm stations reading around 12v with engine running 1500-2000rpm. Checked at output terminal to ground 12v. Port engine checks 13.8v at same place. I had the alternator rebuilt. Same thing! I have cleaned all contacts to insure proper grounding. Checked exciter voltage. It is 12volt with engine running. The only thing left I can think of is direction of rotation. Does this matter? The port engine is left hand rotation and the starboard is right hand rotation. I wonder if the alternator needs to be special. Anyone know? Thanks. Cal |
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Cal,
Doug is right, the direction of rotation should not matter apart from cooling. The output voltage is determined by the regulator which unless you have a fancy external unit fitted (for smart charging etc) should be fixed at around 13.8 volts. Overheating of the alternator could cause this to vary but would not be immediate from cold and should be noticeable as it warms. I assume the rebuild included a test which should have checked the output voltage under load. After all this is the most important thing to test on a alternator. Ask the guy who rebuilt it what its output voltage was under load. If he was not a marine guy it could be he made an assumption that 12V was correct. What is the voltage on the terminal without the engine running? Is the 12V a battery? What is the load on the alternator. If the load is sufficiently high (more that the rated current of the alternator) it could be that the regulator cannot maintain the 13.8 volts which would be normal behavior. Could it be that you have a dodgy battery that is boiling away? This could happen if one of the cells is has become an equivalent of a short circuit. The battery's remaining cells will never reach 13.8V instead it will boil or vent. Don't just disconnect the load or battery! This apparently can be bad (although I am not sure why they cannot be built to cope with this and it could just be myth). Can you check the current flowing from the alternator? This can be tricky since ammeters don't usually range high enough. If it is very hot to touch that would clearly indicate that it is under high load. One trick is to test the voltage across the wire between the terminal and the battery or whatever the first point of call is for that wire. It should be a relatively low voltage even if at full load (100mV). You can get an idea of current by measuring the length of the wire and looking up the resistance per meter (loads of web sites with this info). You divide the voltage across the wire by the resistance of wire and get current. i.e. (metric values) if the wire is 25mm^2 copper the resistance per meter is 0.0007 Ohms. If you have 10mV across such a wire or length 0.5 meters the resistance is 0.0007 * 0.5 = 0.00035. Therefore the current is 0.01/0.00035 = around 30ish Amps. It is only rough but you will get an idea of the current if there is any. If this is near the rated output of the alternator you don't have an alternator problem. It may not even be a problem! My own boat has a funky multi-stage charger that results in exactly what you are seeing during bulk charging. Looking at the alternator you see a lower than should be voltage produced by the charger loading it as much as possible. The charger boosts the voltage of the resulting current to charge the batteries. The only other thing that occurs is that it could be a wiring loom or connector problem. What other connections are on the alternator? You didn't say what alternators you have. Have you tried swapping them over. Demitri cal wrote: I have a 1989 model Marinette Sedan Cruiser with twin Chrysler 318 engines. the alternator on the starboard engine was not putting out. Voltmeters at both helm stations reading around 12v with engine running 1500-2000rpm. Checked at output terminal to ground 12v. Port engine checks 13.8v at same place. I had the alternator rebuilt. Same thing! I have cleaned all contacts to insure proper grounding. Checked exciter voltage. It is 12volt with engine running. The only thing left I can think of is direction of rotation. Does this matter? The port engine is left hand rotation and the starboard is right hand rotation. I wonder if the alternator needs to be special. Anyone know? Thanks. Cal |
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Is there any form of Diode splitter (split charge) in the system as this
will drop the voltage by between 0.7 and 1.0 Volts. Do not disconnect the alternator when the engine is running as it can cause the alternator to fail due to over voltage. It is not a myth. They can and do make alternators which do not have this problem, an extra protective diode is included in the alternator. But most boat builders use the cheaper automotive units. Alec "cal" wrote in message ... I have a 1989 model Marinette Sedan Cruiser with twin Chrysler 318 engines. the alternator on the starboard engine was not putting out. Voltmeters at both helm stations reading around 12v with engine running 1500-2000rpm. Checked at output terminal to ground 12v. Port engine checks 13.8v at same place. I had the alternator rebuilt. Same thing! I have cleaned all contacts to insure proper grounding. Checked exciter voltage. It is 12volt with engine running. The only thing left I can think of is direction of rotation. Does this matter? The port engine is left hand rotation and the starboard is right hand rotation. I wonder if the alternator needs to be special. Anyone know? Thanks. Cal --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.733 / Virus Database: 487 - Release Date: 02/08/2004 |
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