On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 11:19:49 -0500, "Keith"
wrote:

I found one irritating thing... when I double click on mail in Outlook
Express, a lot of times it opens already scrolled to the bottom of the
message. It also seems to think it's on battery and goes to standby mode,
even when plugged in. I had to disable standby mode for battery or AC.

One question... I've been running ZA Pro for a long time and like it. I have
not enabled the new Windows XP firewall, fearing that they will interfere
with each other. Any comments on that? The Win XP security center pops up a
bubble every time I boot up warning me about the firewall not being on, and
I can't find a way to disable that.

Other than the few hiccups above, I've seen no problems with the upgrade.
Haven't seen the power or OE bugs. What laptop are you using? I
believe that the two firewalls would interfere with each other. I
also believe ZA is the one to keep. Current versions of ZA (5.1 and
above, I think) are supposed to work with the security center
interface. 4.5 definitely does not according to Zone Labs. I took ZA
off my machine before the upgrade to see how the Mikeysoft firewall
works out. I'll put it back on today to see what happens.
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"Glen "Wiley" Wilson" wrote in
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Yeah. By naked, I really meant systems without a solid (i.e.
non-Microsoft) firewall and up to date anti-virus package. Which
doesn't make what you say untrue. I have to say though, as Windows
sytems go, my personal experience has been that XP is head and
shoulders above the rest as far as stability goes. I'm almost happy
with it, on that score. It's still a pig with a clunky interface,
though.

That's why I stick to Win2000 on my desktop and Linux for my server. I've
heard too many horrorstories, especially when XP just came out. I know a lot
has been fixed, but still......

Meindert

I'm currently building a new system using an Athlon 64 FX53 cpu. I
would be interested to hear more about this problem. You can sent it
either to the NG or to my hotmail address.

Thank,
Rick

wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:49:39 +0200, "Meindert Sprang"
wrote:


"Glen "Wiley" Wilson" wrote in
message ...
. . .


Briefly, SP2 is a significant upgrade to the security of WindowsXP.
It's like a flak jacket - it doesn't make you absolutely bullet proof,
but it stops a lot of the small caliber stuff. :-) There are other
features, but I regard security as the compelling one. Most of the
security issues addressed by SP2 will have already been handled by the
expert user with add-on firewalls, third party email packages, and a
replacement browser like Mozilla Firefox (highly recommended! I
switched a few months ago and I find it to be superior in every way.
YMMV).

For a naked XP system with an internet connection, SP2 is a very
important upgrade, but it is not trivial. You should definitely read
*all* the information at the above link before upgrading, but my
personal opinion is that you should upgrade when it is convenient.
Backup your system first!

There is a list of over 200 applications, including quite a few of M$
themselves, that stop running or show severe problems after updating to SP2!



Not to mention that SP2 is incompatible with AMD64 processors. It causes endless
rebooting, and Microsoft says the fix is to remove SP2.

BB

Please disregard my previous post. It appears you did provide a link.

Thanks,
Rick

wrote:

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:49:39 +0200, "Meindert Sprang"
wrote:


"Glen "Wiley" Wilson" wrote in
message ...
. . .


Briefly, SP2 is a significant upgrade to the security of WindowsXP.
It's like a flak jacket - it doesn't make you absolutely bullet proof,
but it stops a lot of the small caliber stuff. :-) There are other
features, but I regard security as the compelling one. Most of the
security issues addressed by SP2 will have already been handled by the
expert user with add-on firewalls, third party email packages, and a
replacement browser like Mozilla Firefox (highly recommended! I
switched a few months ago and I find it to be superior in every way.
YMMV).

For a naked XP system with an internet connection, SP2 is a very
important upgrade, but it is not trivial. You should definitely read
*all* the information at the above link before upgrading, but my
personal opinion is that you should upgrade when it is convenient.
Backup your system first!

There is a list of over 200 applications, including quite a few of M$
themselves, that stop running or show severe problems after updating to SP2!



Not to mention that SP2 is incompatible with AMD64 processors. It causes endless
rebooting, and Microsoft says the fix is to remove SP2.

BB

I thought that ZA pro disabled the WIN XP firewall.

Keith wrote:

I found one irritating thing... when I double click on mail in Outlook
Express, a lot of times it opens already scrolled to the bottom of the
message. It also seems to think it's on battery and goes to standby mode,
even when plugged in. I had to disable standby mode for battery or AC.

One question... I've been running ZA Pro for a long time and like it. I have
not enabled the new Windows XP firewall, fearing that they will interfere
with each other. Any comments on that? The Win XP security center pops up a
bubble every time I boot up warning me about the firewall not being on, and
I can't find a way to disable that.

Other than the few hiccups above, I've seen no problems with the upgrade.

I'm using a Micron Transport ZX, Intel Pentium III @ 701 mhz, 256 meg of
RAM. It's an older computer, but still works pretty nicely with the new
stuff. 20 gigs on the hard drive.

--


Keith
__
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"Glen "Wiley" Wilson" wrote in
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 11:19:49 -0500, "Keith"
wrote:

I found one irritating thing... when I double click on mail in Outlook
Express, a lot of times it opens already scrolled to the bottom of the
message. It also seems to think it's on battery and goes to standby mode,
even when plugged in. I had to disable standby mode for battery or AC.

One question... I've been running ZA Pro for a long time and like it. I
have
not enabled the new Windows XP firewall, fearing that they will interfere
with each other. Any comments on that? The Win XP security center pops up
a
bubble every time I boot up warning me about the firewall not being on,
and
I can't find a way to disable that.

Other than the few hiccups above, I've seen no problems with the upgrade.
Haven't seen the power or OE bugs. What laptop are you using? I
believe that the two firewalls would interfere with each other. I
also believe ZA is the one to keep. Current versions of ZA (5.1 and
above, I think) are supposed to work with the security center
interface. 4.5 definitely does not according to Zone Labs. I took ZA
off my machine before the upgrade to see how the Mikeysoft firewall
works out. I'll put it back on today to see what happens.
__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at world wide wiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/

Well, I'm using ZA pro 5.1, and as of today, the win security center icon
doesn't show up any longer in the toolbar! Go figure. The Win security
center says the windows firewall is on, but in the windows firewall dialog
box, it says it's off. I still get the little bubble at startup that warns
me my computer may be at risk since the fiewall is off.

I'm guessing it's really off, but the win security center is just screwed
up. I KNOW ZA is running, thank goodness!

--


Keith
__
"It's easy to get good players. Gettin' 'em to play together, that's the
hard part." - Casey Stengel
"Rick" wrote in message
...
I thought that ZA pro disabled the WIN XP firewall.

Keith wrote:

I found one irritating thing... when I double click on mail in Outlook
Express, a lot of times it opens already scrolled to the bottom of the
message. It also seems to think it's on battery and goes to standby mode,
even when plugged in. I had to disable standby mode for battery or AC.

One question... I've been running ZA Pro for a long time and like it. I
have not enabled the new Windows XP firewall, fearing that they will
interfere with each other. Any comments on that? The Win XP security
center pops up a bubble every time I boot up warning me about the
firewall not being on, and I can't find a way to disable that.

Other than the few hiccups above, I've seen no problems with the upgrade.

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:14:00 GMT, "Glen \"Wiley\" Wilson"
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 11:19:49 -0500, "Keith"
wrote:

I found one irritating thing... when I double click on mail in Outlook
Express, a lot of times it opens already scrolled to the bottom of the
message. It also seems to think it's on battery and goes to standby mode,
even when plugged in. I had to disable standby mode for battery or AC.

One question... I've been running ZA Pro for a long time and like it. I have
not enabled the new Windows XP firewall, fearing that they will interfere
with each other. Any comments on that? The Win XP security center pops up a
bubble every time I boot up warning me about the firewall not being on, and
I can't find a way to disable that.

Other than the few hiccups above, I've seen no problems with the upgrade.
Haven't seen the power or OE bugs. What laptop are you using? I
believe that the two firewalls would interfere with each other. I
also believe ZA is the one to keep. Current versions of ZA (5.1 and
above, I think) are supposed to work with the security center
interface. 4.5 definitely does not according to Zone Labs. I took ZA
off my machine before the upgrade to see how the Mikeysoft firewall
works out. I'll put it back on today to see what happens
I reinstalled 5.1 las night. Everything is working as it should. If
you have 5.1 and are still having problems, try uninstalling and
reinstalling ZA.
__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at world wide wiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 10:17:40 -0500, "Keith"
wrote:

Well, I'm using ZA pro 5.1, and as of today, the win security center icon
doesn't show up any longer in the toolbar! Go figure. The Win security
center says the windows firewall is on, but in the windows firewall dialog
box, it says it's off. I still get the little bubble at startup that warns
me my computer may be at risk since the fiewall is off.

I'm guessing it's really off, but the win security center is just screwed
up. I KNOW ZA is running, thank goodness!
Try expanding the firewall part of the security center by clicking on
the little arrows. I'll bet you see that it is actually reporting
that ZA is your active firewall. That's the way it's supposed to
work, anyway. The firewalls dialog box reports on the windiws
firewall only, the security center reports on any firewall that plugs
into the new security interface. It's a bit confusing.
__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at world wide wiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 10:14:02 -0500, "Keith"
wrote:

I'm using a Micron Transport ZX, Intel Pentium III @ 701 mhz, 256 meg of
RAM. It's an older computer, but still works pretty nicely with the new
stuff. 20 gigs on the hard drive.
To tell the truth, I'm surprised XP works at all. Not so much for the
performance, but because I didn't think the manufacturer ever released
XP drivers for that system. If I have to guess, and it's only a
guess, I'd say it's a driver problem. You could try wherever you got
the XP drivers to see if there's an update. I'd say to turn the
problem in to Microsoft, but I expect they'd send you back to the
manufacturer. Might be worth a try.
__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at world wide wiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/