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The Australian dealer successfully uploaded part of bluechart Pacific V 6.5
plus city navigation Australia V5 in my 60C -Software version 3.50. I think the quality of the GPSMAP60C is great but there is a serious lack of documented manual from Garmin. In a rough estimate, my GPSMAP60C has about 25% more "undocumented screen" than Color_Map_Navigator_Owner's_Manual describes. I have NOT been to get an explanation about these screens. Plus the Color_Map_Navigator_Owner's_Manual explains about road navigation but mentions hardly anything about Marine Navigation. 1) Would anyone know where I can find more marine explanations for the MAP60C? Like a "Reference Manual" or webpages for the MAP60C? 2) Because my MAP60C is loaded with the Basemap(original) plus 2 types of charts ( bluechart Pacific V 6.5 plus city navigation Australia V5 ) I have problem to "hide" and "unhide" the bluechart and city navigation. Menu SetupMenu then it displays "Menu" --restore defaults -- restore ALL map defaults --Show All --Show None -- Show Basemap -- hide Bluechart Pacific --show citynavigator ( this is only one example - there are more undocumented screens like this) The last three are NOT toggle switches. This wording (SHOW or HIDE) make it very difficult to understand what type of map is ON or OFF. "SHOW" and "HIDE" are not friendly toggles. When I toggle the Bluechart Pacific by having it set to HIDE the PAGES do NOT seem to change if BASEMAP is on HIDE. They remain City Navigation PAGES instead of MARINE navigation PAGES. Is there a way my PAGES can default automatically to MARINE or CITYnavigation? Guy |
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Hi Guy,
Don't be dissapointed......i have a similar setup (though with the 60CS and MGA) and seem to have no trouble :-) Answered below........ "Guy" wrote in message ... The Australian dealer successfully uploaded part of bluechart Pacific V 6.5 plus city navigation Australia V5 in my 60C -Software version 3.50. Not hard to do it yourself.......... I think the quality of the GPSMAP60C is great but there is a serious lack of documented manual from Garmin. All manuals should come with it....the other fun thing to do is to explore :-) In a rough estimate, my GPSMAP60C has about 25% more "undocumented screen" than Color_Map_Navigator_Owner's_Manual describes. What about in the 60C manual or the mapsource user's manual? I have NOT been to get an explanation about these screens. Plus the Color_Map_Navigator_Owner's_Manual explains about road navigation but mentions hardly anything about Marine Navigation. Bluecharts are predominately just maps.....nothing else..... They are use for waypoints, tracks and routes. You cannot use it the same as CN :-) BTW bluecharts are designed for navigational reference only. In a marine environment they are not accurate enough to use as the only form of navigation aid. If you have an accident due to their use, Marine Safety Qld (or state equivalents) would be questioning your use of these charts. For example, they do NOT include Notice To Mariners (NTM) information which is vital in some cases. Read the warnings about "......and it must not be used to assist in navigation". 1) Would anyone know where I can find more marine explanations for the MAP60C? Like a "Reference Manual" or webpages for the MAP60C? They should have come with your new purchase? Anyway........ GPSMAP 60C reference manual == http://www.garmin.com/manuals/GPSMAP...nersManual.pdf BlueCharts basic manual == http://www.garmin.com/manuals/MapSou...UsersGuide.pdf 2) Because my MAP60C is loaded with the Basemap(original) plus 2 types of charts ( bluechart Pacific V 6.5 plus city navigation Australia V5 ) I have problem to "hide" and "unhide" the bluechart and city navigation. Menu SetupMenu then it displays "Menu" --restore defaults -- restore ALL map defaults --Show All --Show None -- Show Basemap -- hide Bluechart Pacific --show citynavigator ( this is only one example - there are more undocumented screens like this) Just be aware that this feature (hide/unhide) has just been added to version 3.50. The feature was added after your gps was manufactured and packaged and therefore will not show up in your manual. Check out http://www.garmin.com/support/downlo...ils.jsp?id=547 for the change history, alll of which probably would not be in your manual. The last three are NOT toggle switches. This wording (SHOW or HIDE) make it very difficult to understand what type of map is ON or OFF. "SHOW" and "HIDE" are not friendly toggles. And neither would i assume were they ever intended to be.........That whole menu (described above) does not contain "toggle" switches (i take it you mean check boxes). When I toggle the Bluechart Pacific by having it set to HIDE the PAGES do NOT seem to change if BASEMAP is on HIDE. ?? Do you mean " the basemap is hidden" ? If it says Hide Basemap, then it is being displayed currently.......I think you getting confused with terminology and menus.;-) They remain City Navigation PAGES instead of MARINE navigation PAGES. CN will override Bluecharts which override Basemap.....you cannot have one showing through the other..... Is there a way my PAGES can default automatically to MARINE or CITYnavigation? No Guy Regards Andrew |
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Guy wrote:
The Australian dealer successfully uploaded part of bluechart Pacific V 6.5 plus city navigation Australia V5 in my 60C -Software version 3.50. I think the quality of the GPSMAP60C is great but there is a serious lack of documented manual from Garmin. I couldn't agree more. I love my Garmin (own two) but have been VERY unhappy with the lack of documentation. It all way too basic. Guy |
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 06:44:52 GMT, "Guy"
wrote: 2) Because my MAP60C is loaded with the Basemap(original) plus 2 types of charts ( bluechart Pacific V 6.5 plus city navigation Australia V5 ) I have problem to "hide" and "unhide" the bluechart and city navigation. Menu SetupMenu then it displays "Menu" --restore defaults -- restore ALL map defaults --Show All --Show None -- Show Basemap -- hide Bluechart Pacific --show citynavigator ( this is only one example - there are more undocumented screens like this) The last three are NOT toggle switches. This wording (SHOW or HIDE) make it very difficult to understand what type of map is ON or OFF. "SHOW" and "HIDE" are not friendly toggles. When I toggle the Bluechart Pacific by having it set to HIDE the PAGES do NOT seem to change if BASEMAP is on HIDE. Based on my experience with my GPSMap168, I expect that you will find that those "Show..." and "Hide..." lines are indeed toggle switches. When they say "Hide...", that implies that the item named is displayed. Selecting that line will hide the item, and change the menu to "Show...". I don't have CityNavigator, so don't know how that might interact with BlueChart. It is possible that the GPS can only show information from one map product at a time. I have found with BlueChart that my 168 seems to revert to the basemap at unexpected times - I have to zoom in closer (larger scale) than I would like to show BlueChart detail within Vancouver harbour, although the smaller scale shows the detail outside the harbour. -- Peter Bennett, VE7CEI peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca |
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Hello Andrew
Thanks for these precise answers and ALL the pointers to the different websites I am specially interested by your remarks/comments below as I sail around Brisbane and above Cooktown. BTW bluecharts are designed for navigational reference only. In a marine environment they are not accurate enough to use as the only form of navigation aid. If you have an accident due to their use, Marine Safety Qld (or state equivalents) would be questioning your use of these charts. For example, they do NOT include Notice To Mariners (NTM) information which is vital in some cases. Read the warnings about "......and it must not be used to assist in navigation". I certainly DID NOT realized NavChart did NOT include Notice To Mariners (NTM) . It is too late now, so I have to update manually my maps. This is NOT a great task but very important to be on cue with the sailing boat. Would you know where I can find more information on "Notice To Mariners (NTM)" for Brisbane and from Cooktown to North_Princess_Charlotte_Bay? I only bought this last Garmin GPS MAP60c only a few days ago. The Garmin_Rep will talk to me on Monday and see what happen :-) :-o :-o . I am NOT concerned as such but I had a guts_feeling something was not adding up when NONE of my precise questions got answered. Your email certainly supports my gut feelings. I haven't got time to read every fine print on the subject because I already work in micro electronic design(total overload of detailed info). All I am after is enjoying my sailing - which I do - and be aware of the "shortcoming" when coming to it. Thanks for pointing all these fine points to me. Guy -- To EMAIL me: remove # and NOSPAM in my email address "Andrew S" wrote in message ... Hi Guy, Don't be dissapointed......i have a similar setup (though with the 60CS and MGA) and seem to have no trouble :-) Answered below........ "Guy" wrote in message ... The Australian dealer successfully uploaded part of bluechart Pacific V 6.5 plus city navigation Australia V5 in my 60C -Software version 3.50. Not hard to do it yourself.......... I think the quality of the GPSMAP60C is great but there is a serious lack of documented manual from Garmin. All manuals should come with it....the other fun thing to do is to explore :-) In a rough estimate, my GPSMAP60C has about 25% more "undocumented screen" than Color_Map_Navigator_Owner's_Manual describes. What about in the 60C manual or the mapsource user's manual? I have NOT been to get an explanation about these screens. Plus the Color_Map_Navigator_Owner's_Manual explains about road navigation but mentions hardly anything about Marine Navigation. Bluecharts are predominately just maps.....nothing else..... They are use for waypoints, tracks and routes. You cannot use it the same as CN :-) BTW bluecharts are designed for navigational reference only. In a marine environment they are not accurate enough to use as the only form of navigation aid. If you have an accident due to their use, Marine Safety Qld (or state equivalents) would be questioning your use of these charts. For example, they do NOT include Notice To Mariners (NTM) information which is vital in some cases. Read the warnings about "......and it must not be used to assist in navigation". 1) Would anyone know where I can find more marine explanations for the MAP60C? Like a "Reference Manual" or webpages for the MAP60C? They should have come with your new purchase? Anyway........ GPSMAP 60C reference manual == http://www.garmin.com/manuals/GPSMAP...nersManual.pdf BlueCharts basic manual == http://www.garmin.com/manuals/MapSou...UsersGuide.pdf 2) Because my MAP60C is loaded with the Basemap(original) plus 2 types of charts ( bluechart Pacific V 6.5 plus city navigation Australia V5 ) I have problem to "hide" and "unhide" the bluechart and city navigation. Menu SetupMenu then it displays "Menu" --restore defaults -- restore ALL map defaults --Show All --Show None -- Show Basemap -- hide Bluechart Pacific --show citynavigator ( this is only one example - there are more undocumented screens like this) Just be aware that this feature (hide/unhide) has just been added to version 3.50. The feature was added after your gps was manufactured and packaged and therefore will not show up in your manual. Check out http://www.garmin.com/support/downlo...ils.jsp?id=547 for the change history, alll of which probably would not be in your manual. The last three are NOT toggle switches. This wording (SHOW or HIDE) make it very difficult to understand what type of map is ON or OFF. "SHOW" and "HIDE" are not friendly toggles. And neither would i assume were they ever intended to be.........That whole menu (described above) does not contain "toggle" switches (i take it you mean check boxes). When I toggle the Bluechart Pacific by having it set to HIDE the PAGES do NOT seem to change if BASEMAP is on HIDE. ?? Do you mean " the basemap is hidden" ? If it says Hide Basemap, then it is being displayed currently.......I think you getting confused with terminology and menus.;-) They remain City Navigation PAGES instead of MARINE navigation PAGES. CN will override Bluecharts which override Basemap.....you cannot have one showing through the other..... Is there a way my PAGES can default automatically to MARINE or CITYnavigation? No Guy Regards Andrew |
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Hello Peter
What you are experiencing below is happening to me. BaseMap will ONLY "remove or hide" itself if I zoom close enough. This is a bit of a pain because even when I try to toggle Off Basemap , it still remain and still mask other important features. I have found with BlueChart that my 168 seems to revert to the basemap at unexpected times - I have to zoom in closer (larger scale) than I would like to show BlueChart detail within Vancouver harbour, although the smaller scale shows the detail outside the harbour. Guy -- To EMAIL me: remove # and NOSPAM in my email address "Peter Bennett" wrote in message news.com... On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 06:44:52 GMT, "Guy" wrote: 2) Because my MAP60C is loaded with the Basemap(original) plus 2 types of charts ( bluechart Pacific V 6.5 plus city navigation Australia V5 ) I have problem to "hide" and "unhide" the bluechart and city navigation. Menu SetupMenu then it displays "Menu" --restore defaults -- restore ALL map defaults --Show All --Show None -- Show Basemap -- hide Bluechart Pacific --show citynavigator ( this is only one example - there are more undocumented screens like this) The last three are NOT toggle switches. This wording (SHOW or HIDE) make it very difficult to understand what type of map is ON or OFF. "SHOW" and "HIDE" are not friendly toggles. When I toggle the Bluechart Pacific by having it set to HIDE the PAGES do NOT seem to change if BASEMAP is on HIDE. Based on my experience with my GPSMap168, I expect that you will find that those "Show..." and "Hide..." lines are indeed toggle switches. When they say "Hide...", that implies that the item named is displayed. Selecting that line will hide the item, and change the menu to "Show...". I don't have CityNavigator, so don't know how that might interact with BlueChart. It is possible that the GPS can only show information from one map product at a time. I have found with BlueChart that my 168 seems to revert to the basemap at unexpected times - I have to zoom in closer (larger scale) than I would like to show BlueChart detail within Vancouver harbour, although the smaller scale shows the detail outside the harbour. -- Peter Bennett, VE7CEI peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca |
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Guy,
Notice to Mariners for Qld are available from http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/n...f?OpenDatabase . BTW no paper charts or digital charts contain NTM.......these need to be used in conjunction with your charts. You can also get NTM (even by email) from Australian Hydrographics Service at http://www.hydro.gov.au/ As for the zoom issue, i seem to have the following: Basemap ON Metroguide ON Bluecharts ON Most Detail Base map Showing at 80km and greater Bluecharts showing at 20km, 30km & 50km zoom levels Metroguide showing at 20km (12km and less) I assume this is normal as most people don't use bluecharts and Metroguide at the same time :-) Regards Andrew "Guy" wrote in message ... Hello Andrew Thanks for these precise answers and ALL the pointers to the different websites I am specially interested by your remarks/comments below as I sail around Brisbane and above Cooktown. BTW bluecharts are designed for navigational reference only. In a marine environment they are not accurate enough to use as the only form of navigation aid. If you have an accident due to their use, Marine Safety Qld (or state equivalents) would be questioning your use of these charts. For example, they do NOT include Notice To Mariners (NTM) information which is vital in some cases. Read the warnings about "......and it must not be used to assist in navigation". I certainly DID NOT realized NavChart did NOT include Notice To Mariners (NTM) . It is too late now, so I have to update manually my maps. This is NOT a great task but very important to be on cue with the sailing boat. Would you know where I can find more information on "Notice To Mariners (NTM)" for Brisbane and from Cooktown to North_Princess_Charlotte_Bay? I only bought this last Garmin GPS MAP60c only a few days ago. The Garmin_Rep will talk to me on Monday and see what happen :-) :-o :-o .. I am NOT concerned as such but I had a guts_feeling something was not adding up when NONE of my precise questions got answered. Your email certainly supports my gut feelings. I haven't got time to read every fine print on the subject because I already work in micro electronic design(total overload of detailed info). All I am after is enjoying my sailing - which I do - and be aware of the "shortcoming" when coming to it. Thanks for pointing all these fine points to me. Guy -- To EMAIL me: remove # and NOSPAM in my email address "Andrew S" wrote in message ... Hi Guy, Don't be dissapointed......i have a similar setup (though with the 60CS and MGA) and seem to have no trouble :-) Answered below........ "Guy" wrote in message ... The Australian dealer successfully uploaded part of bluechart Pacific V 6.5 plus city navigation Australia V5 in my 60C -Software version 3.50. Not hard to do it yourself.......... I think the quality of the GPSMAP60C is great but there is a serious lack of documented manual from Garmin. All manuals should come with it....the other fun thing to do is to explore :-) In a rough estimate, my GPSMAP60C has about 25% more "undocumented screen" than Color_Map_Navigator_Owner's_Manual describes. What about in the 60C manual or the mapsource user's manual? I have NOT been to get an explanation about these screens. Plus the Color_Map_Navigator_Owner's_Manual explains about road navigation but mentions hardly anything about Marine Navigation. Bluecharts are predominately just maps.....nothing else..... They are use for waypoints, tracks and routes. You cannot use it the same as CN :-) BTW bluecharts are designed for navigational reference only. In a marine environment they are not accurate enough to use as the only form of navigation aid. If you have an accident due to their use, Marine Safety Qld (or state equivalents) would be questioning your use of these charts. For example, they do NOT include Notice To Mariners (NTM) information which is vital in some cases. Read the warnings about "......and it must not be used to assist in navigation". 1) Would anyone know where I can find more marine explanations for the MAP60C? Like a "Reference Manual" or webpages for the MAP60C? They should have come with your new purchase? Anyway........ GPSMAP 60C reference manual == http://www.garmin.com/manuals/GPSMAP...nersManual.pdf BlueCharts basic manual == http://www.garmin.com/manuals/MapSou...UsersGuide.pdf 2) Because my MAP60C is loaded with the Basemap(original) plus 2 types of charts ( bluechart Pacific V 6.5 plus city navigation Australia V5 ) I have problem to "hide" and "unhide" the bluechart and city navigation. Menu SetupMenu then it displays "Menu" --restore defaults -- restore ALL map defaults --Show All --Show None -- Show Basemap -- hide Bluechart Pacific --show citynavigator ( this is only one example - there are more undocumented screens like this) Just be aware that this feature (hide/unhide) has just been added to version 3.50. The feature was added after your gps was manufactured and packaged and therefore will not show up in your manual. Check out http://www.garmin.com/support/downlo...ils.jsp?id=547 for the change history, alll of which probably would not be in your manual. The last three are NOT toggle switches. This wording (SHOW or HIDE) make it very difficult to understand what type of map is ON or OFF. "SHOW" and "HIDE" are not friendly toggles. And neither would i assume were they ever intended to be.........That whole menu (described above) does not contain "toggle" switches (i take it you mean check boxes). When I toggle the Bluechart Pacific by having it set to HIDE the PAGES do NOT seem to change if BASEMAP is on HIDE. ?? Do you mean " the basemap is hidden" ? If it says Hide Basemap, then it is being displayed currently.......I think you getting confused with terminology and menus.;-) They remain City Navigation PAGES instead of MARINE navigation PAGES. CN will override Bluecharts which override Basemap.....you cannot have one showing through the other..... Is there a way my PAGES can default automatically to MARINE or CITYnavigation? No Guy Regards Andrew |
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