On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:13:12 -0700, Ed Price wrote:

....snip

I suppose we should
just trust him. Last time I trusted Democrats, I got the Bay of Pigs and
Viet Nam.

Ed
wb6wsn

Hi Ed,

I'm not a Democrat, but it seems like the last one we elected gave us 8
years of economic prosperity and eliminated deficit spending. I don't
think one can use such a broad brush. No flame.
--

Larry
email is rapp at lmr dot com
10/31/04 10:12:49 AM

"Larry" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:13:12 -0700, Ed Price wrote:

...snip

I suppose we should
just trust him. Last time I trusted Democrats, I got the Bay of Pigs and
Viet Nam.

Ed
wb6wsn

Hi Ed,

I'm not a Democrat, but it seems like the last one we elected gave us 8
years of economic prosperity and eliminated deficit spending. I don't
think one can use such a broad brush. No flame.
--

Larry
email is rapp at lmr dot com
10/31/04 10:12:49 AM


No flame taken. Just a little reminder to those whose memories are about as
long as a fruit fly.

I'm not too fond of either candidate, and even less fond of the two major
parties. But I think Bush's judgmental mistakes pale in comparison to
Kerry's prevarications; the last Kerry quote I heard was a promise to hunt
down and punish terrorists. Who's gonna do that, how they gonna get there,
and what effect would they have, if we had followed Kerry's Senatorial
voting record opposing almost all military systems?

Finally, a President doesn't "give" us an economy, at least not for a few
years. Our system is so ponderous that it's not very responsive to
legislative tinkering. I used to think that was a fault, but considering the
agendas of each administration, I now think it's a blessing.

Ed
wb6wsn

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 15:20:32 -0800, Ed Price wrote:

"Larry" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:13:12 -0700, Ed Price wrote:

...snip

I suppose we should
just trust him. Last time I trusted Democrats, I got the Bay of Pigs and
Viet Nam.

Ed
wb6wsn

Hi Ed,

I'm not a Democrat, but it seems like the last one we elected gave us 8
years of economic prosperity and eliminated deficit spending. I don't
think one can use such a broad brush. No flame.
--

Larry
email is rapp at lmr dot com
10/31/04 10:12:49 AM

No flame taken. Just a little reminder to those whose memories are about as
long as a fruit fly.

I'm not too fond of either candidate, and even less fond of the two major
parties. But I think Bush's judgmental mistakes pale in comparison to
Kerry's prevarications; the last Kerry quote I heard was a promise to hunt
down and punish terrorists. Who's gonna do that, how they gonna get there,
and what effect would they have, if we had followed Kerry's Senatorial
voting record opposing almost all military systems?

Finally, a President doesn't "give" us an economy, at least not for a few
years. Our system is so ponderous that it's not very responsive to
legislative tinkering. I used to think that was a fault, but considering the
agendas of each administration, I now think it's a blessing.

Ed
wb6wsn

We certainly agree on both candidates. Personally, I'm quite disappointed
that McCain didn't make it.

Regarding Kerry's Senate voting record - I hate to be seen as supporting
the guy, but it certainly appears that he felt that supporting those major
weapons systems would do little against the enemy we now face. Frankly,
the only logical way to get those guys is with "boots on the ground" and a
greatly improved intelligence community.

I realize that the economy was not a direct result of 8 years of Clinton -
in fact, it probably had more to do with Greenspan than Clinton, but it did
occur under Clinton's watch. And certainly one can't argue that he
eliminated deficit spending, although he certainly wasn't the sole cause.

Perhaps the best solution is when one party controls the Congress and the
other controls the Presidency. This has been a pet theory of mine for
years. In such a situation, there is more than the usual amount of
conflict and little gets done. By and large, that seems to be a good
thing! There is less special interest legislation and what gets passed is
scrutinized more carefully.

It's hard to characterize the Democrats as "tax and spend" and the
Republicans as "fiscally conservative" when you look at the last four
years.
--

Larry W1HJF
email is rapp at lmr dot com
11/01/04 9:57:07 AM

"Ed Price" wrote in message
news:1JRgd.86645$kz3.26082@fed1read02...
Oil is damn important to the American economy.
Oil is damn important to a lot of other country's economies. (Think Japan
in
1941.)
As long as people like Sadaam can influence how many grannies freeze to
death in Buffalo this winter, we have a right to influence the future of
people like Sadaam.

Okay, I think I get the picture here.
So, following the same line: when your local supermarket stops supplying a
certain product you want, it gives you the right to arrest the manager and
kill some employees along the way as collateral damage......

Meindert

Also Sprach Meindert Sprang :

Okay, I think I get the picture here.
So, following the same line: when your local supermarket stops supplying a
certain product you want, it gives you the right to arrest the manager and
kill some employees along the way as collateral damage......

Also, Legolas and The Hulk beat the **** out of the entire Greek
army. That would have been a much better movie.

Dan


--
War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

"Meindert Sprang" wrote in message
...
"Ed Price" wrote in message
news:1JRgd.86645$kz3.26082@fed1read02...
Oil is damn important to the American economy.
Oil is damn important to a lot of other country's economies. (Think Japan
in
1941.)
As long as people like Sadaam can influence how many grannies freeze to
death in Buffalo this winter, we have a right to influence the future of
people like Sadaam.

Okay, I think I get the picture here.
So, following the same line: when your local supermarket stops supplying a
certain product you want, it gives you the right to arrest the manager and
kill some employees along the way as collateral damage......

Meindert



Yeah Meindert, so long as you can equate a local supermarket with OPEC.
You're not that dumb, so I must assume mendacity.

Ed
wb6wsn

"Ed Price" wrote in message
news:iZ5id.91450$kz3.52094@fed1read02...
Yeah Meindert, so long as you can equate a local supermarket with OPEC.
You're not that dumb, so I must assume mendacity.

I still believe there is a huge difference between dealing with the oil
problem through OPEC and invading a country for false reasons.

If a country is lacking resources, it should either get them elsewhere in a
legitimate way or do something about it's demand. Just invading a country
that has these resources and killing people along the way is, in my opinion,
an act of war for which I can have no sympathy.

Meindert

In article ws8id.46270$_g6.39467@okepread03,
"Jack Painter" wrote:

The only land the United States has ever asked for from countries we
liberated was enough room to bury our dead.

Not quite true here Jackieboy.... what about the Phillipines, Cuba,
Italy, Germany, We got bases in all those countrys AFTER "Liberating
them"......

Me History is a double edged Sword.......

"Meindert Sprang" wrote in message
...
So where the US.

See http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/press.htm

Meindert

wrote
"Jack Painter" wrote:

The only land the United States has ever asked for from countries we
liberated was enough room to bury our dead.

Not quite true here Jackieboy.... what about the Phillipines, Cuba,
Italy, Germany, We got bases in all those countrys AFTER "Liberating
them"......

Me History is a double edged Sword.......

Dear no-such-person, hiding behind a phony address and name:

"got bases" is a little broad a term for the very different reasons we lease
property from those countries today. Most were enemies conquered in world or
regional wars, and once housed occupying armies (and Navies). Another was a
possession that had nothing to do with liberation, there was never a country
there. It is of course a free and sovereign country now, thanks only to the
efforts of the United States. A double edged sword to you would be the
pencil you once take exams with, it's obvious you poked yourself in the eye
more than scored with it.

Jack Painter
Virginia Beach VA