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"Gary Schafer" wrote in message
... You can try for yourself. Take a little 12 volt ac motor or transformer and connect its 12 volt winding to a 12 volt ac power source. Hold on to each lead of the motor or transformer bare wires if you dare. Touch them and remove them from the 12 volt ac source. I bet you let go rather quickly. :) Better yet hook your oscilloscope to the winding instead of your fingers. Look closely as you disconnect the winding from the power source. Turn the gain down on the scope so you can see the high voltage spike before it goes off the screen. That is why equipment is required to have a snubber network. This will absorb most of the spike down to a safe level for other equipment on the mains. Meindert |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:34:26 +0100, "Meindert Sprang"
wrote: "Gary Schafer" wrote in message .. . By not turning off your air conditioner systems before disconnecting your shore power cable or by only shutting down your main breaker this is what happens: The fields in the air conditioner motors suddenly collapse when power is removed. The collapsing fields will generate a high voltage spike throughout your boats mains system. Any other equipment that is turned on at that time will receive those high spikes of voltage. Everything that is turned on is connected to the air conditioner motors. You can guess what can happen with voltage spikes fed to some types of equipment. A few arguments against this: if you use the switch on the A/C unit itself, you disconnect the motor coil completely. It is virtually unloaded and will therefore produce a high inductanc voltage. That is how it is designed to operate. The high voltage not being connected to anything else will then be harmless. However, if other equipment is connected while unplugging the shore power, much of the spike will be dampened by this other equipment. Furthermore, equipment that is commercially sold, is required by regulations to be able to withstand spikes up to a certain level, just to prevent this kind of potential damage caused by other connected (or suddenly disconnected) equipment. It may or may not be dampened sufficiently. It all depends on what type and how many other things happen to be turned on. Different types of equipment may be able to withstand certian amounts of overvoltage spikes that are normally seen on the line. But this situation is far from a normal intended operation. If you shut down the AC systems first you avoid any kick back voltage spikes being fed to other equipment. The fields just collapse and no voltage spikes go anywhere. Well, the voltage spike will at least produce an arc across the switch, which in turn delivers the spike onto your power system. It may produce an arc but the kick back energy will not be coupled into other equipment that is not connected across the source at the time (the motor coils). Any thing as a result of the arc will be dampened by the whole mains supply system that is still connected. You may get away with just unplugging the whole system for a long time with no problems. But chances are sooner or later it will cause problems for something. Always turning things off before disconnecting mains power is the best bet. Regards Gary Meindert |
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Gary Schafer wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:34:26 +0100, "Meindert Sprang" wrote: "You may get away with just unplugging the whole system for a long time with no problems. But chances are sooner or later it will cause problems for something. Always turning things off before disconnecting mains power is the best bet." "Sooner or later it will cause problems" but 70 VAC will cause problems sooner THAN later. |
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