Hello
I have a ssb setup on my boat and was thinking of getting a modem to access
some sort of email client like sailmail. has anyone used this sort of thing?
What do you recommend

Cheers bobby

There is only one show in town due to patent issues. The SCS PTC-IIe is
probably the best value for things like Sailmail. Not sure how they are
being
marketed these days, but 3 years ago they were going for around $US750.
Make sure you get the PACTOR-III upgrade which was an extra $US150.

It is made in Germany, but there are dealers in the US.

Doug, k3qt
s/v Callista

ps. Get a ham license. Email is free.

"Bobby" wrote in message
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Hello
I have a ssb setup on my boat and was thinking of getting a modem to
access
some sort of email client like sailmail. has anyone used this sort of
thing?
What do you recommend

Cheers bobby

We are not allowed 3rd party messages in europe on amateur licences so
email is not free.

Inge LA8PQ

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We are not allowed 3rd party messages in europe on amateur licences so
email is not free.

Inge LA8PQ


Ah, but you can send/receive email with USA stations where it is
allowed....(c;

73, Larry

I would need to have a USA licence and callsign for that, my licence
says I am not to send messages addressed to anyone other than amateur
stations. I think it is the same in all of europe.
Inge LA8PQ

" wrote in
ps.com:

I would need to have a USA licence and callsign for that, my licence
says I am not to send messages addressed to anyone other than amateur
stations. I think it is the same in all of europe.
Inge LA8PQ



Hm....Searching the FCC's ham radio website, I find it even more
interesting:

" Third Party Communications

Section 97.115 of the Commission's Rules, 47 C.F.R. §97.115, authorizes an
amateur station regulated by the FCC to transmit a message from its control
operator (first party) to another amateur station control operator (second
party) on behalf of another person (third party). No amateur station,
however, shall transmit messages for a third party to any station within
the jurisdiction of any foreign government whose administration has not
made arrangements with the United States to allow amateur stations to be
used for transmitting international communications on behalf of third
parties.

The following countries have made the necessary arrangements with the
United States to permit an amateur station regulated by the FCC to exchange
messages for a third party with amateur stations in: Antigua and Barbuda,
Argentina, Australia, Belize, Bolivia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Brazil, Canada,
Chile, Colombia, Federal Islamic Republic of Comoros, Costa Rica, Cuba,
Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, The Gambia, Ghana,
Grenada, Guatemala, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Israel, Jamaica, Jordan,
Liberia, Republic of the Marshall Islands, Mexico, Federated States of
Micronesia, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, St. Christopher
and Nevis, St. Lucia, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Sierra Leone, South
Africa, Swaziland, Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, United Kingdom (special
event stations with call sign prefix GB followed by a number other than 3),
Uruguay, and Venezuela. The United Nations also has arrangements with the
United States to permit an amateur station regulated by the FCC to exchange
messages for a third party with amateur stations 4U1ITU in Geneva,
Switzerland, and 4U1VIC in Vienna, Austria.

No amateur station regulated by the FCC shall transmit messages for a third
party to any amateur station located within the jurisdiction of any foreign
government not listed above. This prohibition does not apply to a message
for any third party who is eligible to be the control operator of the
station."

I guess I can't handle message traffic to Norway, either. It's not on the
list. I wonder how many thousands of times per day the ham radio email
system breaks this silly regulation?

Aha! All is not lost! YOU are eligible for a reciprocal US license
according to:
http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ama...operating.html

AS FCC changed the rules to get rid of the mess it created trying to get
foreign amateurs a proper license, now all that's required is for you to
sign the proper callsign for the area/state you are in. So, Welcome to
South Carolina, Inge LA8PQ/W4

There, now you have third party priviledges.....er, ah....but not with
Norway.....sorry.

I wonder how much effort it would take for Norwegians to take over their
government and TELL the telephone company it no longer controls ham radio?
We had that problem in the USA for the first hundred years with our ham
radio.

Hi Larry and thankyou for all of the information.

It is even worse than that just now. I am working in Aberdeen in
Scotland for 8 months and they have the same restriction on third party
messages as we do at home, so it would have to be an uprising of the
peoples here as well

Maybe we should invite Mr Mel Gibson to do a sequel to Braveheart.

73 & 88 Inge

" wrote in
oups.com:

Hi Larry and thankyou for all of the information.

It is even worse than that just now. I am working in Aberdeen in
Scotland for 8 months and they have the same restriction on third party
messages as we do at home, so it would have to be an uprising of the
peoples here as well

Maybe we should invite Mr Mel Gibson to do a sequel to Braveheart.

73 & 88 Inge



I'd bet you that if you were to send 3rd party traffic to someone on PSK31
buried in the noise on 14.070's PSK31 band, noone would ever find it or say
anything, especially if you were at sea.

Oh, boy, that one's gonna set them off ****ing at me....(c;

73, 88.....anonymous station at sea....

In article ,
Larry W4CSC wrote:

I'd bet you that if you were to send 3rd party traffic to someone on PSK31
buried in the noise on 14.070's PSK31 band, noone would ever find it or say
anything, especially if you were at sea.

Oh, boy, that one's gonna set them off ****ing at me....(c;

73, 88.....anonymous station at sea....

I'll bet if you sent your email traffic to a US Licensed ham station,
and he forwarded it to Norway via Internet, that it wouldn't violate
the Third Party Traffic Proabition.......

Me

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On 2005-02-24 said:
Larry W4CSC wrote:
I'd bet you that if you were to send 3rd party traffic to someone
on PSK31 buried in the noise on 14.070's PSK31 band, noone would
ever find it or say anything, especially if you were at sea.
I'll bet if you sent your email traffic to a US Licensed ham
station, and he forwarded it to Norway via Internet, that it
wouldn't violate the Third Party Traffic Proabition.
IF you're in international waters you're doubly covered. Have known
of hams in the U.S. who didn't have third party with India and such
places to send their third party through stations located in british
possessions where they did and let them "originate" the traffic.

However in international waters as far as I can tell none of the rules
apply. example: Am always telling stations in British possessions
who are U.S. licensed hams such as those located in the BAhamas to get
into international waters then will be glad to run the patc h for
them. However until the recent round of storms last summer we had no
third party with BAhamas and quite a few other islands over that way.
IN fact we were running quite a bit of traffic out of there on the
SAlvation army net after the hurricanes last summer and I mentioned it
to net leadership. SEems our government arranged for a lifting of
that restriction for the duration of the emergency.
HOwever that hadn't yet happened and I noted quite a few stations
doing it anyway and wanted to make sure that they knew where they
stood on legal issues. AS net control for the Satern net I advised a
couple of stations who were running such traffic that they might be
stepping off the legal cliff but move it off frequency and I didn't
see hear or know a thing.




Richard Webb, amateur radio callsign nf5b
active on the Maritime Mobile service network, 14.300 mhz
REplace anything before the @ symbol with elspider for real email

--



agood captain is one who is hoisting his first drink in a
bar when the storm hits.