I friend has just bough a brand new system and have it installed into
his brand new 36 ft sailboat. The system comprises a Raymarine C80
Chart/Plotter, including the Radar and FishFinder and the plotter uses
Navionics Gold charts; besides this, it have the Raymarine S1/6001
Autopitot, ST60 wind and depth instruments etc.

He has a Garmin GpsMap 276C and a GpsMap 76S and many tested wpts and
routes, and he wishes to transfer its to the new system, but he can not
have any information on how he could do this. How he can interface the
chart plotter with the PC in order to transfer the wpts and routes?
There is a cartridge adapter that could be read/writed in the PC? Wich
software he could use for this?

Please, any help would be apreciated.

Thanks

Pascal

"Pascal" wrote in
ups.com:

I friend has just bough a brand new system and have it installed into
his brand new 36 ft sailboat. The system comprises a Raymarine C80
Chart/Plotter, including the Radar and FishFinder and the plotter uses
Navionics Gold charts; besides this, it have the Raymarine S1/6001
Autopitot, ST60 wind and depth instruments etc.


Don't locktite the screws on the radome so hard you can't get it out.
We're on our THIRD 2KW radome in 3 years....dammit.

Raymarine has nothing to do with Raytheon's reliability and good name.
After 6 months, take the 4 screws out of the radome cover and remove it.
Look inside and tell me how much condensate you find inside.
--
Larry

You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and your outlined in
chalk.

Pascal wrote:

I friend has just bough a brand new system and have it installed into
his brand new 36 ft sailboat. The system comprises a Raymarine C80
Chart/Plotter, including the Radar and FishFinder and the plotter uses
Navionics Gold charts...snip

That Raymarine C80 uses Navionics Gold charts that are on CF cards
doesn't it?

I had a brief encounter with a C120 a while back and remember, in going
through the menus, that there were provisions for saving and retrieving
data to and from the CF card. I was using the chart plotter with a
Navionics chart card in place and not trying to save or retrieve any
user data to and from the card. The thought of accidently writing to
the card sort of scared me in fact.

Some cautions apply, writing to the wrong card (like your expensive
Navionics Gold chart card) or at the wrong time could overwrite
(destroy) the existing data on a card. Hopefully, the Navionics CF
chart cards are write protected or there are plenty of warnings.

But if the C80 will read and write data from and to "user" or "data" CF
cards, then it may be possible to load the Garmin data (which will
probably have to be reformatted first) to the CF card on a PC and then
retrieve it into the C80.

He has a Garmin GpsMap 276C and a GpsMap 76S and many tested wpts and
routes, and he wishes to transfer its to the new system, but he can not
have any information on how he could do this. How he can interface the
chart plotter with the PC in order to transfer the wpts and routes?
There is a cartridge adapter that could be read/writed in the PC? Wich
software he could use for this?

I'm sure that Raymarine would want you to use its RayTech RNS Pathfinder
software http://tinyurl.com/dz99j and put your PC in direct contact with
your C80 on a SeaTalk network. That entails more hardware and and
software as seen at that link.

I think the RayTech RNS software will use (read from/write to) CF cards
in any common CF card reader. Raymarine also sells a USB reader for the
proprietary C-Map cartridges that are used in some of its equipments.

There have been threads here before about the practicality of "do it
your self" networking on Raymarine equipments. If I recall right from
the threads here, the SeaTalk network is a variation on TCP/IP
networking. And that a network can be setup without purchasing all the
SeaTalk networking bells and whistles Raymarine expects you to use.

Please, any help would be apreciated.

I guess you friend has to first figure out if there is a migration path
(using utilities like GPS Utility, G7towin, etc.,) to move the data from
the Garmin format to a format that the C80 can read. That may or may
not require an intermediate Raymarine software such as RayTech RNS.

A secondary decision is to decide if he wants to have a PC on the boat
on a SeaTalk network. With that decided, he may want to study the
details of SeaTalk networking and either use SeaTalk networking hardware
or the do it yourself alternative

Your friend should not lose track of the fact that one of the primary
obligations of a boat owner is to keep adding money to the hole in the
water that he owns. :)

Cheers,

Jack

--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)

Thank You Jack,

I give a read on the Raytech site about the software, and I think that
the solution for a simple download/upload of wpts/routes/tracks, wich
with Garmin's is inexpensive and easy, would be complex and expensive
with RayMarine C80. So I will advise my friend to reserve the unit to
use stand alone like a chart/ploter, radar and Fishfinder, leting the
wpts, routes and autopilot control to the Garmin units.

Regards

Pascal

Pascal,

I could be wrong here, but I believe that several(I do not know which)
Raymarine units are the only systems that use a Map card and can receive
waypoints from a computer using NMEA handler software. See if you can
find a hint in the "data" part of the menu. (I do not have time to read
a manual just now.)

It is worthwhile to try. Get GPS Utility downloaded (the free version
is good for the test, but is limited to 100 waypoints). It only stores
waypoints as one file type, but will translate to any of the listed units.

Then collect the waypoints from both Garmin (with GPSU this is a snap).
You can check the files and compare or combine then in GPSU. Connect to
the Raymarine NMEA port and get the software talking to the GPS. If you
can find the control on the Raymarine data menue to listen for
waypoints, you are set.

The C-Series use a CF (very common camera and PDA memory) to transfer
data. Hardware to write to it can be had inexpensively and any XP level
machine will do it as a matter of fact.

At least it is not a C-Map unit or your guy would have to go and buy a
C-Map Planner set that includes software a memory module and module
writer. That costs about 200$us and is not easy to use to transfer
waypoint data.

Good luck

Matt Colie (a.k.a. Yachtsman's Technical Support www.yachtek.com)

Pascal wrote:
I friend has just bough a brand new system and have it installed into
his brand new 36 ft sailboat. The system comprises a Raymarine C80
Chart/Plotter, including the Radar and FishFinder and the plotter uses
Navionics Gold charts; besides this, it have the Raymarine S1/6001
Autopitot, ST60 wind and depth instruments etc.

He has a Garmin GpsMap 276C and a GpsMap 76S and many tested wpts and
routes, and he wishes to transfer its to the new system, but he can not
have any information on how he could do this. How he can interface the
chart plotter with the PC in order to transfer the wpts and routes?
There is a cartridge adapter that could be read/writed in the PC? Wich
software he could use for this?

Please, any help would be apreciated.

Thanks

Pascal

Matt,

If the C80 can get waypoints and routes from the NMEA messages
GPWPL/GPRTE, than if I connect directly my Garmin in the serial port
sending these messages to the C80 it could read these messages and
them, I would not need the CF card reader/writer, yes or no?

Thanks

Pascal

Addendum, I would not need the CF card nor the Raymarine expensiv
software ....

"Pascal" wrote in
oups.com:

Matt,

If the C80 can get waypoints and routes from the NMEA messages
GPWPL/GPRTE, than if I connect directly my Garmin in the serial port
sending these messages to the C80 it could read these messages and
them, I would not need the CF card reader/writer, yes or no?

Thanks

Pascal



Probably not. The serial port is RS-232C. Ones and zeros are +12V and -
12V levels. NMEA's bus, in their infinite stupidity, used RS-422 standard
because it's cheaper to build a data system that uses 0V and +5V for zeros
and ones. Your serial port "may" respond correctly, but again it may not
because the voltage levels on the bus are all wrong.....sorry.

They didn't want you to hook it to a computer....They don't MAKE and SELL
computers....

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
Probably not. The serial port is RS-232C. Ones and zeros are +12V and -
12V levels. NMEA's bus, in their infinite stupidity, used RS-422 standard
because it's cheaper to build a data system that uses 0V and +5V for zeros
and ones.

That is nonsense. A line driver chip for RS-232 or RS-422 are about equally
cheap in quantities. RS-422 is much more robust in a noisiy environment
because of it's balanced nature.

Your serial port "may" respond correctly, but again it may not
because the voltage levels on the bus are all wrong.....sorry.

That is indeed the case. It may or may not work. See
http://www.shipmodul.com/en/connections.html for instructions how to connect
a single ended interface (RS-232) to a differential one (RS-422) if you want
to try it, Pascal.

They didn't want you to hook it to a computer....

That is indeed correct. Although Raymarine makes Raytech Navigator, they are
reluctant to get into the computer business. We tried to hook them onto our
USB multiplexers, but they wouldn't. They just went for the serial one, with
the RS-232 interface stripped....... It had "NO PC connection" written all
over it....

Meindert

Thanks Meindert,

My friends boat is being delivery from Rio Grande do Sul to Bahia next
month, and we definitively will try this, making a interface cable
based on your instructions.

BTW, the Raymarine site has the folowing information about the C80
Interface using a new free utility program to do this, using the Cf
card and Excel:

=== Transfer waypoint data between a Microsoft Excel file and
Raymarine C-Series displays.

Requirements:

Raymarine C70, C80 or C120 display

A Windows PC with a Compact Flash reader/writer

A Compact Flash Card. To ensure the integrity of your map data,
Raymarine does not recommend using the Navionics Gold map card for this
procedure.

Microsoft Excel



====To upload the wpts and routes from the CF card, the procedure
would be as folow:

Restoring Waypoints, Routes, and Tracks
If you had backed up data before the upgrade, you can now restore it
using this procedu

Insert a card into the card slot.
Press the DATA button.
Press the ARCHIVE & TRANSFER.
Press the RETRIEVE FROM CARD.
From SELECT LIST, choose WPT (Waypoint), RTE (Route), or TRK (Track).
The card contents for your selection appear on the screen.
Use the track pad (up/down) to select what you want to retrieve.
Press RETRIEVE ALL or RETRIEVE GROUP/ROUTE/TRACK as appropriate. A
message box appears to show that the information is being written to
the display.
When the transfer is complete a message will appear on the screen.
Note: Pressing the RETRIEVE ALL soft key, will retrieve all of a
Database list to the display.

CompactFlash is a registered trademark of SanDisk Corporation.


For more information see below:


http://www.raymarine.com/raymarine/D...e=900&Parent=3