I searched the archives and found a few similar articles,
but nothing in the last few years. Sorry if I missed
something and am asking about a too frequent thread, but
flame on if you must. Also, I am not planning on using a
hand held GPS instead of charts. I always carry my own
charts, as you can always depend on the charter company to
have them. That said. . .

I used to be on the water all the time, inland and offshore,
and have quite a bit of experience in navigation coastal and
open water between islands. For the past 10 years I have
been boat free (boatless ?), but have chartered every year
or two in the BVI and Florida (crossing Florida bay and
heading to DT). I have always been happy with the equipment
on the boats, but now would like to have something to save
routes and bring home to load into charting S/W so I can
remember where we went (okay, senior moment).

I am at the point where I need reading glasses to read my
watch (sigh) so I need to play with units in a store to see
how readable they are for me. Other than that, the features
I would like to have other than basic navigation to
waypoints a
- route tracking to store where we sailed
- Man Overboard button (or similar instant WP function)
- Anchor alarm
- and it would be nice if it had tidal information (a
feature some of the newer ones have that seems like a nice
thing to have, if anyone can provide feedback on it I would
appreciate)

Based on that, I am interested in the groups experience with
the current crop of handheld GPS offerings and what
features were great and which disappointed. I would love to
hear your raves about how happy you are with brand X, but
please let's not get into cartoon characters urinating on a
brand because Chevy is better than Ford, is better than
Dodge, is better than ...

Again, sorry if I missed a recent posting about this.
Thanks in advance for all your input.

Guy

Guy wrote:
I searched the archives and found a few similar articles,
but nothing in the last few years. Sorry if I missed
something and am asking about a too frequent thread, but
flame on if you must. Also, I am not planning on using a
hand held GPS instead of charts. I always carry my own
charts, as you can always depend on the charter company to
have them. That said. . .

I used to be on the water all the time, inland and offshore,
and have quite a bit of experience in navigation coastal and
open water between islands. For the past 10 years I have
been boat free (boatless ?), but have chartered every year
or two in the BVI and Florida (crossing Florida bay and
heading to DT). I have always been happy with the equipment
on the boats, but now would like to have something to save
routes and bring home to load into charting S/W so I can
remember where we went (okay, senior moment).

I am at the point where I need reading glasses to read my
watch (sigh) so I need to play with units in a store to see
how readable they are for me. Other than that, the features
I would like to have other than basic navigation to
waypoints a
- route tracking to store where we sailed
- Man Overboard button (or similar instant WP function)
- Anchor alarm
- and it would be nice if it had tidal information (a
feature some of the newer ones have that seems like a nice
thing to have, if anyone can provide feedback on it I would
appreciate)

Based on that, I am interested in the groups experience with
the current crop of handheld GPS offerings and what
features were great and which disappointed. I would love to
hear your raves about how happy you are with brand X, but
please let's not get into cartoon characters urinating on a
brand because Chevy is better than Ford, is better than
Dodge, is better than ...

Again, sorry if I missed a recent posting about this.
Thanks in advance for all your input.

Guy

Problem is, we all like the GPS we bought, so to get an objective opinion is
well-nigh impossible, since we don't usually have the opportunity to
extensively try out other makes.

My Garmin GPSMAP 60C is a cracker, FWIW!

You might get more objective view having a browse thru
http://www.maps-gps-info.com/gp.html, or http://www.gpsinformation.net/

Dennis.

"Guy" wrote in message
news:bXPef.21503$9T4.4418@trnddc04...
I searched the archives and found a few similar articles,
but nothing in the last few years. Sorry if I missed
something and am asking about a too frequent thread, but
flame on if you must. Also, I am not planning on using a
hand held GPS instead of charts. I always carry my own
charts, as you can always depend on the charter company to
have them. That said. . .

I used to be on the water all the time, inland and offshore,
and have quite a bit of experience in navigation coastal and
open water between islands. For the past 10 years I have
been boat free (boatless ?), but have chartered every year
or two in the BVI and Florida (crossing Florida bay and
heading to DT). I have always been happy with the equipment
on the boats, but now would like to have something to save
routes and bring home to load into charting S/W so I can
remember where we went (okay, senior moment).

I am at the point where I need reading glasses to read my
watch (sigh) so I need to play with units in a store to see
how readable they are for me. Other than that, the features
I would like to have other than basic navigation to
waypoints a
- route tracking to store where we sailed
- Man Overboard button (or similar instant WP function)
- Anchor alarm
- and it would be nice if it had tidal information (a
feature some of the newer ones have that seems like a nice
thing to have, if anyone can provide feedback on it I would
appreciate)

Based on that, I am interested in the groups experience with
the current crop of handheld GPS offerings and what
features were great and which disappointed. I would love to
hear your raves about how happy you are with brand X, but
please let's not get into cartoon characters urinating on a
brand because Chevy is better than Ford, is better than
Dodge, is better than ...

Again, sorry if I missed a recent posting about this.
Thanks in advance for all your input.

Guy

I did the same thing you did.....researched the archives and concluded, as
Dennis wrote, that it is a matter of personal preference. That being said,
I chose to utilize my laptop, buying a waterproof USB GPS receiver and MS
Streets and Trips on E-Bay for $60. Works like a charm although the marine
application is basic. It only shows the channel of the Columbia River, not
depth or buoy markers. However, at this stage in my learning curve, the
channel location is what I need, particularily at night or in case of fog.
Down the road, I'm hoping to access some marine software that gives me more
extensive information.

-Greg

Yes, everyone is happy with what they have. I went for a Lowrance 320
now 480. Reason was it had the best I think sonar (for the price) and
the Mapcreate sw was reasonable and they DID NOT use proprietary flash
memory just the standard SDFlash. It just really gripes me when a
company takes industry standard stuff and tweaks it so that they can
resell it for 3X the price. It works great at high speeds even giving
me a reliable warning beep when I get into less than 3 ft.

Compared to Fugawi the Mapcreate is pretty weak but its ok. I've even
used it in the Suburban on long trips to keep me going where I'm
supposed to.

On seeing objects on it, I have an older friend (I'm young at 55) and
he went with a color version and it is easier to see things on it so
that might be a major criteria for, a color one that meets your
interests.

Have fun. It is amazing how good this stuff (most brands) really is
nowadays.

Don

Guy wrote:

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Based on that, I am interested in the groups experience with the
current crop of handheld GPS offerings and what features were great and
which disappointed. I would love to hear your raves about how happy you
are with brand X, but please let's not get into cartoon characters
urinating on a brand because Chevy is better than Ford, is better than
Dodge, is better than ...

I do occasional boat deliveries in the Northeastern U.S. I have a
Meridian Color and the optional MapSend BlueNav charting package. That
travels with me as a backup navigation system to the equipment that is
on the boats. It also has on it, all the routes and waypoints I use
regularly.

The BlueNav package gives me 80-odd "charts" covering the U.S. Great
lakes, the East, Gulf, and West coasts, and down through the Bahamas.

What is called a "chart" on BlueNav is actually a Navionics "Small"
chart region. Each region contains a number of charts of various scales
and charts for many ports and harbors in that region. So I actually
have hundreds of charts.

To get a feel for the charting, look at the 6xx and 7xx series regions
here and you can get a feel for the size of the BlueNav regions:

http://www.navionics.com/Charts.asp?...&ChartSizeID=1

The BlueNav package comes with a desktop application for navigation
planning, that can be used to place waypoints and build routes. The
routes and waypoints can then be uploaded to the Meridian.

So this gives me a good navigation capability. I can get on a boat with
that and a chartbook and, with no other navigation equipment, find my
way around.

As a warning, the process Magellan has to use to protect the chart data
from illegal copying and distribution makes using the charts somewhat
less than a "no brainer" if you are going to be crossing two or three
regions in one day or if you are operating on the boundary between two
adjacent regions. But it is manageable enough and certainly better than
not having the charts.

I also use some other PC software (SeaClear II, a great! freeware) and a
GPS utility named GPS Utility (free to try, nominal cost to buy) to
handle my interactions between SeaClear, the Meridian and other software
packages. Those let me archive, edit, and manipulate tracks, waypoints,
and routes to my heart's content.

Garmin has comparable offerings in both hardware and software that I
have not used, I assume those will do about the same things to about the
same level of satisfaction as the Magellan stuff.

If anyone that does not own both brands of hardware and software tells
you that either one is better than the other, don't believe them. It
boils down to user preferences and perceptions and the dreaded "I bought
it, so it has to be best" syndrome can be very misleading.

If I were going to buy a new handheld today, I would give the Magellan
eXplorist XL serious consideration because it has a larger display than
my Meridian, can use the software I already own, and uses a very similar
menu system.

I would also look at the offerings from other companies and drop by West
Marine or somewhere like that to see what else is on the market.

Jack

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Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)