This is an excerpt from the ABYC Standards for Marine Cabling:

"Solder shall not be the sole means of mechanical connection in any
circuit."11.16.3.7.
You need to catch up on your reading....
and #10 / 20a ?

2 Conductors 105° C (221° F) 3 Conductors 105° C (221° F)
4 to 6 Conductors 105° C (221° F) 7 to 24 Conductors 105° C
(221° F)
Conductor Outside Inside Outside Inside Outside Inside Outside
Inside
Size Engine Engine Engine Engine
(AWG) Space Space Space Space

18
20 17.0 14.0 11.9 12.0 10.2 10.0 8.5
16
25 21.3 17.5 14.9 15.0 12.8 12.5 10.6
14
35 29.8 24.5 20.8 21.0 17.9 17.5 14.9
12
45 38/3 31/5 26.8 27.0 23.0 22.5 19.1
10
60 51.0 42.0 35.7 36.0 30.6 30.0 25.5
8
80 68.0 56.0 47.6 48.0 40.8 40.0 34.0
6
120 102.0 84.0 71.4 72 61.2 60.0

"markvictor" wrote in
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"Solder shall not be the sole means of mechanical connection in any
circuit."11.16.3.7.


Solder is not the sole means of mechanical connection. It isn't the
mechanical connection at all, crimping is. Crimp to get mechanical
connection, then bond with solder for full ELECTRICAL connection,
increasing cross section area of the bond a lot!

Will the troll continue??

"markvictor" wrote in
ups.com:

"Solder shall not be the sole means of mechanical connection in any
circuit."11.16.3.7.


While you have your manual out, look up which ABYC regulation in my
compliant Sea Ray F16XR2 let them hide BOTH the fuel inlet hose connection
and the fuel tank vent connection UNDER the damned cockpit where you
couldn't even SEE how it was connected to the cheap milk bottle poly tank,
to say nothing of being able to check it for leaks without taking the whole
cockpit off the boat.

Sea Rays are ABYC compliant, too, so it said.

Larry,
I agree with you as long as it's a crimp and solder, I'm not trolling
you...
I a;so worked for a Sea Ray dealer in socal from 98 thru 2001, I
believe that the F-16 was considered a personal watercraft,,, but I
understand your frustration with it,,,they were a real challenge to
service sometimes... By the way, I think I still have a complete (or
nearly} set of the graphic decals for an f-16)
regards,markvictor

"markvictor" wrote in
oups.com:

Larry,
I agree with you as long as it's a crimp and solder, I'm not trolling
you...
I a;so worked for a Sea Ray dealer in socal from 98 thru 2001, I
believe that the F-16 was considered a personal watercraft,,, but I
understand your frustration with it,,,they were a real challenge to
service sometimes... By the way, I think I still have a complete (or
nearly} set of the graphic decals for an f-16)
regards,markvictor



I sold it off to one of the kids who I used to take to the beach in it
when he got a great paying job in insurance. Unlike most owners, I only
lost $6,000...(c;

I gave him a complete set of unmounted seats and the side panel made of
packing box wood so it would look new when HE dumped it...(c;

That fuel inlet hose up under there worried the hell out of me after I
found the cheap plastic angle irons eating into the gas tank, the only
thing that held the gas tank from going aft on each side. I took them
out and fabricated a proper stringer across the back to support the 25
gallons of gas that was bulging the aft end of the tank out, ominously.

Did you guys have any problems with the fuel hose from the tank (3/4") to
the barb on the powerhead (5/16"). Mine came off the engine at speed,
fell through the huge loops Sea Ray had it fed through against the engine
compartment wall and the end went way back in the bilge, overcoming the
anti-siphon valve (if it had one) in the tank. My bilge had about 4-5
gallons of raw gas in it, WITH THE ENGINE RUNNING OFF THE FUMES going
down the river. Sea Ray was very friendly and sent me a lifetime supply
of 5/16" hose. I added the Racor filter between tank and engine they
forgot to install to get the crap and water out of the gas with 3/4"
inlet and 5/16" outlet, solving two problems with one filter....

I was too scared to power on those chinzy Chinese bilge blowers with the
you-just-know explosion-proof plastic motors. Never mind where we pumped
the fuel to with the plastic bilge pump....(c;

Larry...
You hit on one of the things that I called a "Jaw Dropper"...That 2"
pvc angle holding the fuel tank... You can imagine how well they held
the 50 or 75 gallon fuel tanks.....NOT! Most of the boats had a
bulkhead ,but there was still several inches for the tank to shift
around in I can't tell you how many near-disasters I saw because of
that stuff.. I had a customer with a fresh water tank that pulled the
fill hose off the nipple and slid into the serpentine belt idler... Big
mess... Thats a lot of weight for 2 #12 screws and a piece of plastic
to secure..
Anything to save a buck...
Regards,
markvictor

"markvictor" wrote in
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Anything to save a buck...


The 16' SeaRaider had a 25 gallon poly gas tank and those little plastic
angle brackets cut off from some long stock were not full length, but only
about 3" long against the back corners of the soft tank.

CG needs to inspect Brunswick. They ruined Sea Ray.

Yep, that's exactly what I'm talking about as well...the little 3 or 4
inch piece of plastic trying to keep 500 pounds of tankage from
moving...I think Brunswick is trying to take their boat empire to the
brink of an anti-trust suit....
regards,
markvictor

"markvictor" wrote in
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Yep, that's exactly what I'm talking about as well...the little 3 or 4
inch piece of plastic trying to keep 500 pounds of tankage from
moving...I think Brunswick is trying to take their boat empire to the
brink of an anti-trust suit....
regards,
markvictor


David Pascoe's "Are they fiberglass any more" says it all....

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/Fiberglass_Boats.htm

WOW! ...Makes me glad my boat is 30 years old.....some of that
composite was some stuff SR called hexellite,was akin to about 2 layers
of paper towel....and to Sea Ray's credit they use vinylester as
opposed to polyester....I wonder what the Bayliners looked
like...(another superior Brunswick product);;;