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Following a thread on uk.rec.boats about pirates ......
All vessels over 200 tonne are supposed to carry AIS transmitters. Does anyone know what the regulations are if you *want* to carry AIS being under 200 tonnes? How does anyone police the use of the system. It appears to me that there is no registration id of the transmitting equipment and anyway that could be falsified. Has anyone considered what would happen if someone was to start transmitting false 'echoes'. The original idea was to masquerade as a naval ship if threatened by pirates. It might at least make them think twice if they thought there was a chance that someone with bigger guns than them was nearby. Ian |
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"nimbusgb" wrote: Following a thread on uk.rec.boats about pirates ...... All vessels over 200 tonne are supposed to carry AIS transmitters. Does anyone know what the regulations are if you *want* to carry AIS being under 200 tonnes? How does anyone police the use of the system. It appears to me that there is no registration id of the transmitting equipment and anyway that could be falsified. Has anyone considered what would happen if someone was to start transmitting false 'echoes'. The original idea was to masquerade as a naval ship if threatened by pirates. It might at least make them think twice if they thought there was a chance that someone with bigger guns than them was nearby. Ian AIS is supposed to ID via the MMID of the vessels DSC System, so that any receiving GMDSS operator can call the vessel, so Identified, via VHF DSC, and make passage arrangments. |
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nimbusgb wrote:
Following a thread on uk.rec.boats about pirates ...... All vessels over 200 tonne are supposed to carry AIS transmitters. Does anyone know what the regulations are if you *want* to carry AIS being under 200 tonnes? How does anyone police the use of the system. It appears to me that there is no registration id of the transmitting equipment and anyway that could be falsified. Wrt. identification: AIS transmits ship's name, MMSI number, IMO registration number and callsign. MMSI number is transmitted in every message, and functions as the key used to correlate messages coming from the same transmitter. The other fields are not mandatory. And yes, all of these fields can be falsified. You could also state false statements about depth, length, etc. easily, as these are also just entered into the AIS transmitter's configuration. Transmitting a false GPS position, speed and course would also be possible, but would require more work. Anyone with a DSC radio will (should) have a MMSI number. Anyone with a radio license will have a call sign. Only the IMO number will remain blank for non-IMO classified ships. -- Kees |
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nimbusgb wrote:
Following a thread on uk.rec.boats about pirates ...... All vessels over 200 tonne are supposed to carry AIS transmitters. Does anyone know what the regulations are if you *want* to carry AIS being under 200 tonnes? How does anyone police the use of the system. It appears to me that there is no registration id of the transmitting equipment and anyway that could be falsified. Has anyone considered what would happen if someone was to start transmitting false 'echoes'. The original idea was to masquerade as a naval ship if threatened by pirates. It might at least make them think twice if they thought there was a chance that someone with bigger guns than them was nearby. Ian You are all working on the assumption that pirates use radar, AIS, GPS to track their victims. Most of them just cruise around aimlessly looking for a likely target. It's difficult to disguise a 35-foot cruising yacht as a navy frigate. If your boat is big enough, and your pocket will stretch to it, try an Apache attack helicopter, fully armed and ready to go. And don't forget to dispense the chaff...................... |
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Dennis Pogson wrote:
nimbusgb wrote: Following a thread on uk.rec.boats about pirates ...... All vessels over 200 tonne are supposed to carry AIS transmitters. Does anyone know what the regulations are if you *want* to carry AIS being under 200 tonnes? How does anyone police the use of the system. It appears to me that there is no registration id of the transmitting equipment and anyway that could be falsified. Has anyone considered what would happen if someone was to start transmitting false 'echoes'. The original idea was to masquerade as a naval ship if threatened by pirates. It might at least make them think twice if they thought there was a chance that someone with bigger guns than them was nearby. Ian You are all working on the assumption that pirates use radar, AIS, GPS to track their victims. Most of them just cruise around aimlessly looking for a likely target. It's difficult to disguise a 35-foot cruising yacht as a navy frigate. If your boat is big enough, and your pocket will stretch to it, try an Apache attack helicopter, fully armed and ready to go. And don't forget to dispense the chaff...................... Haha, at night we could try projecting a naval vessel onto the sails? Gets us back to our favourite subject he how to power the projector from the batteries :-) -- Kees |
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Kees Verruijt wrote:
Dennis Pogson wrote: nimbusgb wrote: Following a thread on uk.rec.boats about pirates ...... All vessels over 200 tonne are supposed to carry AIS transmitters. Does anyone know what the regulations are if you *want* to carry AIS being under 200 tonnes? How does anyone police the use of the system. It appears to me that there is no registration id of the transmitting equipment and anyway that could be falsified. Has anyone considered what would happen if someone was to start transmitting false 'echoes'. The original idea was to masquerade as a naval ship if threatened by pirates. It might at least make them think twice if they thought there was a chance that someone with bigger guns than them was nearby. Ian You are all working on the assumption that pirates use radar, AIS, GPS to track their victims. Most of them just cruise around aimlessly looking for a likely target. It's difficult to disguise a 35-foot cruising yacht as a navy frigate. If your boat is big enough, and your pocket will stretch to it, try an Apache attack helicopter, fully armed and ready to go. And don't forget to dispense the chaff...................... Haha, at night we could try projecting a naval vessel onto the sails? Gets us back to our favourite subject he how to power the projector from the batteries :-) Pirates in the Straits of Malacca don't use AIS, they use binoculars, it's cheaper. |
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