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Hi folks,
I just relaunched my boat after painting the bottom, installing new zincs and instruments. That was in March of this year. Around the 1st of July, I scrubbed the bottom in preparation for a race, and noticed the zinc on the strut was nearly gone, despite only having been in the water 3 months. Someone tells me this is because I need an isolator. What is an isolator, and how does it work? Big picture and simple answers preferred. thanks, Luc |
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luc wrote:
Hi folks, I just relaunched my boat after painting the bottom, installing new zincs and instruments. That was in March of this year. Around the 1st of July, I scrubbed the bottom in preparation for a race, and noticed the zinc on the strut was nearly gone, despite only having been in the water 3 months. Someone tells me this is because I need an isolator. What is an isolator, and how does it work? Big picture and simple answers preferred. thanks, Luc The galvanic isolator goes in your AC ground line (the green wire) and prevents your zinc, which is presumably connected to your boat's AC ground wire via the boat grounding systems, from trying to protect your neighbors' boats, the dock and any other immersed water in the vicinity. The shore power green wire goes to the isolator as it's first connection in the boat. Alternatively, disconnect your shore power. bob |
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RW Salnick wrote:
luc wrote: Hi folks, I just relaunched my boat after painting the bottom, installing new zincs and instruments. That was in March of this year. Around the 1st of July, I scrubbed the bottom in preparation for a race, and noticed the zinc on the strut was nearly gone, despite only having been in the water 3 months. Someone tells me this is because I need an isolator. What is an isolator, and how does it work? Big picture and simple answers preferred. thanks, Luc The galvanic isolator goes in your AC ground line (the green wire) and prevents your zinc, which is presumably connected to your boat's AC ground wire via the boat grounding systems, from trying to protect your neighbors' boats, the dock and any other immersed water in the vicinity. The shore power green wire goes to the isolator as it's first connection in the boat. Alternatively, disconnect your shore power. bob Bob is correct, but keep in mind that other causes could be responsible for the rapid zinc depletion. They're much less common, however. If you hire a competent marine electrician, he can quickly verify that the problem would be fixed by installing a galvanic isolator. Chuck ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"luc" wrote in news:1153249242.027049.36020
@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: Hi folks, I just relaunched my boat after painting the bottom, installing new zincs and instruments. That was in March of this year. Around the 1st of July, I scrubbed the bottom in preparation for a race, and noticed the zinc on the strut was nearly gone, despite only having been in the water 3 months. Someone tells me this is because I need an isolator. What is an isolator, and how does it work? Big picture and simple answers preferred. thanks, Luc http://www.yandina.com/electrolysis.htm http://www.jefa.com/install/electro.htm http://marinesurvey.com/yacht/corrosion_1.htm http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...eid=hughes0004 http://www.protroll.com/blkbox3.html |
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My boat also goes through zincs in 100 days +/-. I have a GI installed. How
can I tell if my boat is the problem or if it's neighbors or the marina (without disconnecting from shore power for 90 days :-) )? Mike "Andina Marie" wrote in message oups.com... By far the majority of accelerated zinc loss cause is the shore power connection. The first step is to install a galvanic isolator. Defender has them on sale for about $95 at http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|328|303336&id=605562 Regards, Ann-Marie Foster, |
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Mike wrote:
My boat also goes through zincs in 100 days +/-. I have a GI installed. How can I tell if my boat is the problem or if it's neighbors or the marina (without disconnecting from shore power for 90 days :-) )? Mike Hello Mike, First thing is buy a copy of "The 12 Volt Doctor's Practical Handbook" at your local marine store. With a simple DMM you can do some testing to answer your question. You can even test neighboring boats if you can clamp a test lead onto a shroud or grounded piece of metal. Some folks will have strong feelings about this "trespassing" but you need not board the vessel and will not mar it or subject it to damage in any way by the testing. If you know the owner, you may even find him willing to participate. Anyway, you need to disconnect the shore power only for the duration of the test, which should be less than 5 minutes. Read the (very short) book and post any questions you have. Having said all that, I must say that 100 days is too short a period for zinc life. There are many possibilities, starting with whether your zincs are too small. Did you notice a difference in zinc life when you installed the GI? Can you triple the zinc size easily? Have you considered a supplemental zinc hanging over the side? Good to have one on board anyway. Good luck. Chuck ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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I understand how NO ground connection is better than a typical setup with an
isolator, but if the isolator is functioning, isn't the effect very close to the same? Let me ask it another way. If I have about 0.2 VDC across the galvanic isolator, would I see about the same between the shore ground and neutral/ground on the boat side of an isolation transformer? "Larry" wrote in message ... "Mike" wrote in news:b8idnTRka-tz- : (without disconnecting from shore power for 90 days :-) )? Install an isolation transformer with an ISOLATED GROUND. That allows the AC to flow across the transformer windings but not the galvanic current, which is DC.....unless some idiot hooks you boat ground to the dock ground rendering the isolation useless. |
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On 19 Jul 2006 05:51:08 -0700, "Andina Marie"
wrote: By far the majority of accelerated zinc loss cause is the shore power connection. The first step is to install a galvanic isolator. Defender has them on sale for about $95 at http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|328|303336&id=605562 ================= Is it possible to install the isolator external to the boat using the right combination of connectors and junction boxes? The shore power circuits on my boat are almost impossible to get at in any reasonable way. |
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