Børge Wedel Müller wrote in
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YES - Very good.
Now we do just need a brave "greenfielder" who want to bring us all to
the next generation....

sincerely
/Børge


"Larry" skrev i meddelelsen
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Bruce in alaska wrote in news:fast-
:

One would NEED, to first have a Hardware Bridge that bridges the two
different Hardware Connection Standards. Then a Protocol Converter
that can translate between the two Protocols in question,
BiDirectionally....

--
Bruce in alaska
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I have this silly dream of a wifi network you just plug any
DHCP-enabled device into 12V. The "marine router" connects to it and
assigns it an DHCP IP, then makes a connection to its port 12345 and
presents it an automatic broadcast of every data statement being
received at the router. In that data stream is the IP and ID data of
every instrument available. When you turn on the new Wind
instrument, the router reports to all connections the new wind
instruments ID/IP and starts feeding the wind data to the broadcast
stream.

Even your handheld walkie talkie, pocket GPS, tablet computer,
laptop, etc., all connect to the boat's network. The walkie talkie
can display lat/long/wind/course/speed/distance to waypoint....any
data that's available...right on the walkie screen. The chart
plotter in the hand held GPS shows the same data as the one at the
helm or on the nav software on the computer.

It all exists with off-the-shelf hardware. Software for it exists or
is easily written in Linux, holding down cost by using an open source
operating system every manufacturer can use for free. All
instruments will talk with all other instruments WITHOUT this
proprietary bull**** trying to force the boater to buy only our
equipment we have now.

Any device can connect DIRECTLY to any other device on the network.
The computer can directly connect on a separate channel to the
autopilot, for instance. They can swap data separately from the
public broadcast channel.

Ethernet - TCP/IP can make this happen this month.

There's no need to reinvent the wheel with a bunch of "marine", read
that "proprietary" nonsense....



My cellular provider, Alltel, is being swallowed by the most dispicable
company in America, Verizon Wireless....5GB/mo for $60 + 25
cents/MEGABYTE over that limit....$250/GB! That isn't going to happen.

We have a new carrier on CDMA with EVDO called Cricket. Unlimited
service is really cheap in limited areas, one of which I live in.
Cricket only has one model of USB cellular modem and won't permit
tethering via bluetooth to my Nokia N800 Linux tablets (2), so I've
looked around and found a grand solution!

http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2008-02/...000-best-evdo-
router-ever/

The cellular phone modem (upper left in picture grey plastic) is plugged
into this magic box, which is a real router with the added feature of a
USB modem port that the cellular connects to. 256 wifi users can now
share the one cellular modem's limited bandwidth over regular wifi.

I borrowed the router from a company here until mine is delivered and
signed up for the $40/month Cricket (www.mycricket.com) EVDO cellular
modem $59.

Wherever I go, my car now creates a wifi hotspot I can use up to about
35 meters from the car to my Nokia N800 Linux tablets. Both tablets can
be connected, simultaneously, and use the same internet connection,
which on little Cricket is about 300-700Kbps on the street. It even
works great underway as the car drives around because wifi doesn't
handoff but cellular does.

My SSID on the wifi is W4CSC/MOBILE and it's wide open....help yourself.

The router is about $200 from places on the net....

This thing would be great on a boat, as the solution to the internet
problem, even away from the marina with wifi. It's its own hotspot, so
anywhere you'd have cellular data connectivity, you have your own wifi
internet....such as anchored out in the harbor far away from the free
wifi. Cellular has much wider range than any wifi to get to the boat's
system. Put these things in a plastic enclosure at the top of the mast
or on the yardarm and simply feed +12VDC from the house batteries
permanently to it and you'll have internet wherever you have cellular.

Mine simply sits on the back shelf of my '73 Mercedes 220D sedan and
provides plenty of signal for sitting at a table in any restaurant,
whether that restaurant has wifi or not....

I'm sure there's a similar GSM capable router that would work in Denmark
and the EU available. Only the programming on the USB port interface
would be different.

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:33:31 +0000, Larry wrote in
:

My cellular provider, Alltel, is being swallowed by the most dispicable
company in America, Verizon Wireless....5GB/mo for $60 + 25
cents/MEGABYTE over that limit....$250/GB! That isn't going to happen.

We have a new carrier on CDMA with EVDO called Cricket. Unlimited
service is really cheap in limited areas, one of which I live in.
Cricket only has one model of USB cellular modem and won't permit
tethering via bluetooth to my Nokia N800 Linux tablets (2), so I've
looked around and found a grand solution!

http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2008-02/...000-best-evdo-
router-ever/

The cellular phone modem (upper left in picture grey plastic) is plugged
into this magic box, which is a real router with the added feature of a
USB modem port that the cellular connects to. 256 wifi users can now
share the one cellular modem's limited bandwidth over regular wifi.

I borrowed the router from a company here until mine is delivered and
signed up for the $40/month Cricket (www.mycricket.com) EVDO cellular
modem $59.

Wherever I go, my car now creates a wifi hotspot I can use up to about
35 meters from the car to my Nokia N800 Linux tablets. Both tablets can
be connected, simultaneously, and use the same internet connection,
which on little Cricket is about 300-700Kbps on the street. It even
works great underway as the car drives around because wifi doesn't
handoff but cellular does.

My SSID on the wifi is W4CSC/MOBILE and it's wide open....help yourself.
...

Good way to discourage carriers from offering unlimited access in the
future. [sigh]

--
Best regards,
John Navas, publisher of Navas' Sailing & Racing in
the San Francisco Bay Area http://sail.navas.us/

John Navas wrote in
:

Good way to discourage carriers from offering unlimited access in the
future. [sigh]


Oh, John, I can see they're just terrified of my huge 20mw hotspot's range
and bandwidth.....

On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:01:33 +0000, Larry wrote in
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John Navas wrote in
:

Good way to discourage carriers from offering unlimited access in the
future. [sigh]

Oh, John, I can see they're just terrified of my huge 20mw hotspot's range
and bandwidth.....

They actually are concerned, your sarcasm notwithstanding, because open
hotspots are frequently abused, particularly with illicit peer-to-peer
filesharing. Such abuse constitutes a substantial portion of network
traffic at the expense of legitimate users. Since cellular spectrum is
limited, it's an even bigger problem for cellular than for Wi-Fi. Many
carriers specifically address network abuse in the terms of service.

--
Best regards,
John Navas, publisher of Navas' Sailing & Racing in
the San Francisco Bay Area http://sail.navas.us/

John Navas wrote in
:

They actually are concerned, your sarcasm notwithstanding, because
open
hotspots are frequently abused, particularly with illicit peer-to-peer
filesharing. Such abuse constitutes a substantial portion of network
traffic at the expense of legitimate users. Since cellular spectrum
is
limited, it's an even bigger problem for cellular than for Wi-Fi.
Many
carriers specifically address network abuse in the terms of service.


My hotspot has a blistering range of 125 feet on its best day. I doubt
many peer-to-peer downloaders are within its range circle during lunch
at Waffle House. I've never seen any of them connected or on its log
files.

You call peer-to-peer filesharing "Illicit". Which law are they
breaking file sharing? Got a URL to it so I can read it? I didn't know
file sharing or using bandwidth sold to me as "UNLIMITED" was illegal or
immoral.

If they don't want me on the system, all they have to do is shut me off
and NOT TAKE MY MONEY....same as any other business. So far, noone has
complained as most of the bandwidth they cannot "store" until profits
rise just goes to waste, unused by anyone. I've never seen the system
slow down to a crawl because users had the audacity to actually connect
something to it and USE what they are paying for. The slowdowns here
are caused by poor propagation and interference from large military
aircraft reeking havoc with multipath flutter bouncing off large
aluminum clouds.

On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:18:17 +0000, Larry wrote in
:

John Navas wrote in
:

They actually are concerned, your sarcasm notwithstanding, because open
hotspots are frequently abused, particularly with illicit peer-to-peer
filesharing. Such abuse constitutes a substantial portion of network
traffic at the expense of legitimate users. Since cellular spectrum is
limited, it's an even bigger problem for cellular than for Wi-Fi. Many
carriers specifically address network abuse in the terms of service.

My hotspot has a blistering range of 125 feet on its best day. I doubt
many peer-to-peer downloaders are within its range circle during lunch
at Waffle House. I've never seen any of them connected or on its log
files.

You might very well be surprised one of these days -- it's a big problem
at local coffee houses, public libraries, etc, with open Wi-Fi.

You call peer-to-peer filesharing "Illicit". Which law are they
breaking file sharing? Got a URL to it so I can read it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act
http://www.legalzoom.com/legal-articles/article13928.html
http://www.copyright.gov/

I didn't know
file sharing or using bandwidth sold to me as "UNLIMITED" was illegal or
immoral.

I'm guessing you haven't bothered to read your terms of service.
http://www.mycricket.com/termsandconditions See #7 in particular.
See also http://www.mycricket.com/cricketsupport/faqs/details?id=548

If they don't want me on the system, all they have to do is shut me off
and NOT TAKE MY MONEY....same as any other business. So far, noone has
complained as most of the bandwidth they cannot "store" until profits
rise just goes to waste, unused by anyone. I've never seen the system
slow down to a crawl because users had the audacity to actually connect
something to it and USE what they are paying for. The slowdowns here
are caused by poor propagation and interference from large military
aircraft reeking havoc with multipath flutter bouncing off large
aluminum clouds.

With that attitude I suspect they'd be glad to be rid of you.

--
Best regards,
John Navas, publisher of Navas' Sailing & Racing in
the San Francisco Bay Area http://sail.navas.us/