On Nov 16, 9:22 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:19:42 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

wrote:
Shooting at ice, weird concept, I mean the part about ice being
outisde of ones freezer.

Yes, you could really make a mess of your drink that way.

Us Florida natives who rarely see ice outside of iced tea all had this
mental image of someone shooting at someones tea glass.
Srsly, I wonder how may generations it will take for people shooting
up in the air to give us some perspective on Darwinism.
So, nobody can think of any real reasons not to target shoot at sea?
It seems to me that this would be safer than on land as I can be
certain there is nobody within bullet range whereas on land you never
know if that is true. (OK, perhaps there are Ninja scuba divers out
there).

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 10:00:03 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Nov 16, 12:40 pm, Boater wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
In my thread about target shooting on the water, someone mentioned
bullets bouncing back and had a vid of this happening when a .5 cal
bounced from a steel plate.

First, some easy to remember physics: Light things do not transfer
energy to heavy things well, that is why the bullet bounced back from
the steel plate. Heavy things do transfer energy to light things well
which is why sand absorbs energy from a bullet so well.

Although a bullet will bounce at a shallow angle from water or sand, I
doubt it is possible for a 180 degree bounce to happen. OK, it is
"possible" but it is probably more likely you will get hit by a
meteorite twice.

Have one of your relatives call us from the ER when you manage to shoot
yourself. Here's a hint: make sure the hole in the barrel is pointed
away from you. I mention that because you seem to have extraordinary
problems with ordinary objects.

OK. here is how you could get a 180 degree bounce from water. You
need a very large breaking wave and I do mean large as the angle for
reflection is less than 20 degrees meaning you need 9 reflections from
the braking part to get your 180 degrees

Much easier to take your copper jacketed. 22 out on the ice and
shoot.

Neat thing happens - you shoot the ice at a slight angle and the
bullet enters the ice and travels a bit until the steam builds up
enough - the bullet will come screaming back out of the hole and at
pretty decent velocity. :)

I know for a fact a .38 can come back 180 degrees. Not a lot of energy, and
bullet was very deformed, only bruised my leg. One year during our annual
USAF qualifying, I got said bullet in the leg. Must have hit the metal
supports exactly correct. Yes Tom, they did let us handle small arms once a
year.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:28:38 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

So, nobody can think of any real reasons not to target shoot at sea?
It seems to me that this would be safer than on land as I can be
certain there is nobody within bullet range whereas on land you never
know if that is true. (OK, perhaps there are Ninja scuba divers out
there).

As long as you've got a clear horizon in all directions I can't see
why not. I think the biggest risk is someone filing a gunfire report
with the gendarmes or an accidental discharge in an unfortunate
direction.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:28:38 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

So, nobody can think of any real reasons not to target shoot at sea?
It seems to me that this would be safer than on land as I can be
certain there is nobody within bullet range whereas on land you never
know if that is true. (OK, perhaps there are Ninja scuba divers out
there).



Spend all your time looking for really dumb things to do, eh? Why would
you want to discharge firearms on the water? What are you shooting at,
the horizon?

On Nov 16, 10:00 pm, Boater wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:28:38 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

So, nobody can think of any real reasons not to target shoot at sea?
It seems to me that this would be safer than on land as I can be
certain there is nobody within bullet range whereas on land you never
know if that is true. (OK, perhaps there are Ninja scuba divers out
there).

Spend all your time looking for really dumb things to do, eh? Why would
you want to discharge firearms on the water? What are you shooting at,
the horizon?

I get the impression Harry went directly from the newborn section to
the geriatric ward when he was born. Really Harry, go back and read
the original post.

Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 16, 10:00 pm, Boater wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:28:38 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:
So, nobody can think of any real reasons not to target shoot at sea?
It seems to me that this would be safer than on land as I can be
certain there is nobody within bullet range whereas on land you never
know if that is true. (OK, perhaps there are Ninja scuba divers out
there).
Spend all your time looking for really dumb things to do, eh? Why would
you want to discharge firearms on the water? What are you shooting at,
the horizon?

I get the impression Harry went directly from the newborn section to
the geriatric ward when he was born. Really Harry, go back and read
the original post.


You can't explain your latest round of idiocy in a sentence? I recall
you wondering about warding off pirates. Usually the pirates are after
boats a little fancier and faster than your little sailboat. How are you
going to outrun or outgun a pack of pirates in a fast motorboat?
Perhaps you ought to concentrate on learning how to boat without
breaking stuff.

On Nov 16, 10:15 pm, Boater wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 16, 10:00 pm, Boater wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:28:38 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:
So, nobody can think of any real reasons not to target shoot at sea?
It seems to me that this would be safer than on land as I can be
certain there is nobody within bullet range whereas on land you never
know if that is true. (OK, perhaps there are Ninja scuba divers out
there).
Spend all your time looking for really dumb things to do, eh? Why would
you want to discharge firearms on the water? What are you shooting at,
the horizon?

I get the impression Harry went directly from the newborn section to
the geriatric ward when he was born. Really Harry, go back and read
the original post.

You can't explain your latest round of idiocy in a sentence? I recall
you wondering about warding off pirates. Usually the pirates are after
boats a little fancier and faster than your little sailboat. How are you
going to outrun or outgun a pack of pirates in a fast motorboat?
Perhaps you ought to concentrate on learning how to boat without
breaking stuff.

MY next invention, just for rec.boats, a blood pressure monitor that
disables the "send" button when Harry's blood pressure goes above a
certain level. It'd cut his posts by 99%.
Seriously Harry, get a grip, yer dodderin dude. This is just a fun
way to get my son to go sailing with me. He can shoot the .22 at a
foam float. There's no Pirates in my part of the world in this
century.

Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 16, 10:15 pm, Boater wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 16, 10:00 pm, Boater wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:28:38 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:
So, nobody can think of any real reasons not to target shoot at sea?
It seems to me that this would be safer than on land as I can be
certain there is nobody within bullet range whereas on land you never
know if that is true. (OK, perhaps there are Ninja scuba divers out
there).
Spend all your time looking for really dumb things to do, eh? Why would
you want to discharge firearms on the water? What are you shooting at,
the horizon?
I get the impression Harry went directly from the newborn section to
the geriatric ward when he was born. Really Harry, go back and read
the original post.
You can't explain your latest round of idiocy in a sentence? I recall
you wondering about warding off pirates. Usually the pirates are after
boats a little fancier and faster than your little sailboat. How are you
going to outrun or outgun a pack of pirates in a fast motorboat?
Perhaps you ought to concentrate on learning how to boat without
breaking stuff.

MY next invention, just for rec.boats, a blood pressure monitor that
disables the "send" button when Harry's blood pressure goes above a
certain level. It'd cut his posts by 99%.
Seriously Harry, get a grip, yer dodderin dude. This is just a fun
way to get my son to go sailing with me. He can shoot the .22 at a
foam float. There's no Pirates in my part of the world in this
century.


What a thrill.

My BP, by the way, was 120/63 at my last doctor's visit. How's yours?

50 cal + steel plate = headache


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:45:39 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 10:00:03 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Nov 16, 12:40 pm, Boater wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
In my thread about target shooting on the water, someone mentioned
bullets bouncing back and had a vid of this happening when a .5 cal
bounced from a steel plate.

First, some easy to remember physics: Light things do not transfer
energy to heavy things well, that is why the bullet bounced back from
the steel plate. Heavy things do transfer energy to light things well
which is why sand absorbs energy from a bullet so well.

Although a bullet will bounce at a shallow angle from water or sand, I
doubt it is possible for a 180 degree bounce to happen. OK, it is
"possible" but it is probably more likely you will get hit by a
meteorite twice.

Have one of your relatives call us from the ER when you manage to shoot
yourself. Here's a hint: make sure the hole in the barrel is pointed
away from you. I mention that because you seem to have extraordinary
problems with ordinary objects.

OK. here is how you could get a 180 degree bounce from water. You
need a very large breaking wave and I do mean large as the angle for
reflection is less than 20 degrees meaning you need 9 reflections from
the braking part to get your 180 degrees

Much easier to take your copper jacketed. 22 out on the ice and
shoot.

Neat thing happens - you shoot the ice at a slight angle and the
bullet enters the ice and travels a bit until the steam builds up
enough - the bullet will come screaming back out of the hole and at
pretty decent velocity. :)

I know for a fact a .38 can come back 180 degrees. Not a lot of energy, and
bullet was very deformed, only bruised my leg. One year during our annual
USAF qualifying, I got said bullet in the leg. Must have hit the metal
supports exactly correct. Yes Tom, they did let us handle small arms once a
year.

Once a year? Sounds like never would have been a better idea.

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Pansies. :)