Tom Francis wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build
a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the
group done this and do they have any words of advice?
Yep.

Don't do it.
I don't know, Harry was very successful GC'ing his N. VA home.

That's Harry. Harry is successful at everything he attempts.

He's the Leonardo DaVinci of modern times. To date, Harry has proven
extensive knowledge of a whole host of subjects including, of all
things, opera. I mean roof loads, foundations, plumbing, electrical -
he's got the knowledge base - apparently.

So it follows that Harry would be the General Contractor for his own
home - he has nothing but time on his hands (as is obvious by the
number of posts just yesterday) which is a key element in being a GC
for your own home.

It's hard for the rest of us mere mortals to understand that.




Ok, you talked me out of it.

On Dec 30, 7:55*am, Tom Francis
wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."

wrote:
Tom Francis wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build
a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. *Has anyone in the
group done this and do they have any words of advice?

Yep.

Don't do it.

I don't know, Harry was very successful GC'ing his N. VA home.

That's Harry. *Harry is successful at everything he attempts.

He's the Leonardo DaVinci of modern times. *To date, Harry has proven
extensive knowledge of a whole host of subjects including, of all
things, opera. *I mean roof loads, foundations, plumbing, electrical -
he's got the knowledge base - apparently.

So it follows that Harry would be the General Contractor for his own
home - he has nothing but time on his hands (as is obvious by the
number of posts just yesterday) which is a key element in being a GC
for your own home.

It's hard for the rest of us mere mortals to understand that.

I wish he'd talk to me, I'd like to know his design parameters like
earthquake loads, wind loads, snow and drifting snow loads, etc. I
wonder which codes he used in his area, including building code,
plumbing code, electrical code, gas code, ADA compliance, fire safety
code etc. What was the tested soil bearing capacity at his site? When
he did his analysis, did he use LRFD or Ultimate Stress Design, (which
is limited stress design and has been changed to be PERMISSABLE stress
design, I hope he caught that!)

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:18:43 -0800 (PST), wrote:

I
wonder which codes he used in his area, including building code,

It's got to have four walls and a roof.

plumbing code,

It's gotta flush - somewhere.

electrical code,

AC or DC?

Or both?

gas code,

No beans.

ADA compliance,

No teeth.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has
anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?

Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......


It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general
I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be
way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not
line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a
settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the
builder's license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond) and
my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the slabs
poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary and
bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to be on
the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square
feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last
year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the
real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because when
I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at about
$1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was the
one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice
builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for
$160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and
the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least 40
feet tall and full triple wides.

Nice story, and pictures?


There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide
your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the
addresses of the houses.

Tom Francis wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to build
a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has anyone in the
group done this and do they have any words of advice?
Yep.

Don't do it.
I don't know, Harry was very successful GC'ing his N. VA home.

That's Harry. Harry is successful at everything he attempts.

He's the Leonardo DaVinci of modern times. To date, Harry has proven
extensive knowledge of a whole host of subjects including, of all
things, opera. I mean roof loads, foundations, plumbing, electrical -
he's got the knowledge base - apparently.

So it follows that Harry would be the General Contractor for his own
home - he has nothing but time on his hands (as is obvious by the
number of posts just yesterday) which is a key element in being a GC
for your own home.

It's hard for the rest of us mere mortals to understand that.





Reggie, of course, is full of schitt. I was successful with the house in
NoVa because I had to be. If I had let the original GC get away with his
shenanigans, it would have been a financial disaster. And all successful
at the time meant was that I was able to complete the project a little
over budget. It was a hellacious, time-consuming, aggravating project,
and I would not do it again, especially these days.

Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has
anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?

Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......


It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general
I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be
way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not
line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a
settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the
builder's license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond)
and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the
slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary
and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to
be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square
feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last
year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the
real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because
when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at
about $1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was
the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice
builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for
$160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and
the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least
40 feet tall and full triple wides.

Nice story, and pictures?


There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide
your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the
addresses of the houses.


Careful Reggie. This may be a trick. ;-)

Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has
anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?

Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......


It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the general
I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned out to be
way overextended financially from previous projects, and could not
line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a
settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the
builder's license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond)
and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the
slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary
and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to
be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square
feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last
year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the
real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because
when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at
about $1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was
the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice
builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for
$160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad, and
the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at least
40 feet tall and full triple wides.

Nice story, and pictures?


There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you provide
your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to supply the
addresses of the houses.


Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name?

Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:
Boater wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has
anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?

Yes, with three houses and two workshops. Not only was I General
Contractor, I was also 50% of the labor.

Your only real savings, in this market, will be sweat equity. You can
buy cheaper than you can build.... you just have to find an equally
desperate mortgagee and mortgagor.... or you could do it the seat
equity route, if you have the cash, tools, and a desire to make it
happen.

No bank is going to let *you* (as their mortgagor) serve as General
Contractor unless you hold a contractor's license.

Advice? You're crazy to even attempt it...... uh, but wasn't I
thinking about adding on to the workshop.....

.... Oh, never mind......


It's an incredible burner of time. I had to do it because the
general I hired to build a custom home in Northern Virginia turned
out to be way overextended financially from previous projects, and
could not line up the subs I wanted, and was teetering.

Took the builder to court, had a civil jury trial, and won a
settlement of more than $100,000. Never collected anything but the
builder's license bond from the state.

With the help of the lumberyard (who issued the construction bond)
and my bank, I took over when the foundation had been laid and the
slabs poured, hired a project manager to oversee the subs on salary
and bonus, and completed the house just a hair over budget. I had to
be on the site for about an hour at 6:30 AM just about every morning.

It was a huge house, ultra modern, with four full brick fireplaces,
nearly 4000 square feet on the main level, and another 3,000 square
feet finished in the basement. I looked it up on Zillow early last
year and it was valued at more than $1.5 million. The "crash" of the
real estate market apparently hit Northern Virginia hard, because
when I looked it up on Zillow earlier this evening, it was valued at
about $1.1 million.

Just checked the second house I owned in Northern Virgina...it was
the one we sold to build the custom house. I paid $87k for it - nice
builder's subdivision house - and sold it about five years later for
$160,000, I think. Zillow has it at $600,000 and change. Not bad,
and the blue spruce trees I planted there in the mid-1970s are at
least 40 feet tall and full triple wides.

Nice story, and pictures?


There are aerial pictures of both places on Zillow. Soon as you
provide your full legal name here and I verify it, I'll be glad to
supply the addresses of the houses.


Careful Reggie. This may be a trick. ;-)

Harry Krause is a reputable guy, what problem would i have giving him my
personal info?

Harry, post your phone number and I will call you to discuss details.

Boater wrote:
Tom Francis wrote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:44:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Tom Francis wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:49 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

We are thinking about using this downturn in the housing market to
build a new home, and acting as our own General Contractor. Has
anyone in the group done this and do they have any words of advice?
Yep.

Don't do it.
I don't know, Harry was very successful GC'ing his N. VA home.

That's Harry. Harry is successful at everything he attempts.

He's the Leonardo DaVinci of modern times. To date, Harry has proven
extensive knowledge of a whole host of subjects including, of all
things, opera. I mean roof loads, foundations, plumbing, electrical -
he's got the knowledge base - apparently.

So it follows that Harry would be the General Contractor for his own
home - he has nothing but time on his hands (as is obvious by the
number of posts just yesterday) which is a key element in being a GC
for your own home.

It's hard for the rest of us mere mortals to understand that.





Reggie, of course, is full of schitt. I was successful with the house in
NoVa because I had to be. If I had let the original GC get away with his
shenanigans, it would have been a financial disaster. And all successful
at the time meant was that I was able to complete the project a little
over budget. It was a hellacious, time-consuming, aggravating project,
and I would not do it again, especially these days.

How do you ever find time to work on all these projects and stay glued
to your computer screen. A mortal who has done all you say you did would
have to be at least 175 years old.

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:36:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Ok, how do you plan on verifying my full legal name?

Telephathy.