Here is what I got.

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1281.JPG

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1282.JPG

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1283.JPG

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1284.JPG

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1285.JPG

Hope this helps alittle. The boat is a 1990 Maxum 19 ft

Again Thanks!!

Tim Fisher







"Tim" wrote in message
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On Jan 5, 10:47 am, "Jeepinit" wrote:
I began the dismantling process last evening. My question is; Should I
remove the base that is fiberglass to the floor? Take a saw zall and cut
the base out? What is underneath? is the base built on the floor or is it
hollow underneath it? What would look the best? I can take pictures and
share is anyone is intrested in helping me out.

Tim Fisher

"Tim" wrote in message

...
On Jan 3, 7:07 pm, John H wrote:



On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:32:07 -0500, "Jeepinit" wrote:
In the past I have seeked the wisdom of this forum with great success.
I
am
once again seeking some direction. I purchased a 1990 Maxum 19 ft last
year. The only thing I dislike about the boat is the seating. It has
the
folddown seats on both sides. I do not mind the seats anywhere except
at
the wheel. It is an extremly uncomfortable seat. I continually had to
prop
cushions under me to see. I need to change this while she is in
storage.
Where do I go to find ideas? Maybe removing the seat and installing a
captain chair on a pedestal? Looking for ideas, where and how tos.

Thanks all!!

Tim

Another Tim, oh no!

Oh yeeeessss!

Those seats you have are quite common in the runabouts. one thing you
can do is remove the seat from the box it sits on and raise them from
there, OR cover the box, make it sturdy and use it for a pedistal and
put about any seat you want on it. If you're going to remove the seat
entirely and instal "captains chairs" you may have some problems with
working under the decking as suggested.

A friend of mine took the rotten seats off the boxes and went to the
local salvage yard and got some import bucket seats for about $10. or
$15.00. complete with sliding adjusters. He mounted them on top of the
boxes after he'd reinforced them, and they work fairly well. he was
going to make them rotatable, but didn't have time last year. i don't'
know if he's working on them for this coming season or not.

i ought to find out.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Post your pic's, Tim. You;ll get some honest suggestions here. If it
has fiberglass basses I would say they're mounted to the floor fairly
securly, but then again I don't know. I really wouldn't take a saws-
all to anything because it sounds to me like it would be unnecessary,
and aperson could risk butchering stoff that shouldn't be. In fnything
at all, I'd say that the boxe's are hollow, though. if the base
*looks* like a solid block with a solid top, then that would probably
eliminate a lot of work.

But Yes, post the pics and let's see whats going on.

Tim Schnautz

On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:07:55 -0500, "Jeepinit"
wrote:

Here is what I got.

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1281.JPG

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1282.JPG

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1283.JPG

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1284.JPG

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1285.JPG

Hope this helps alittle. The boat is a 1990 Maxum 19 ft

Again Thanks!!

Tim Fisher

I'd have a pro do it, but.....
If I was going to do it myself I'd go to a pro, by taking the boat to
him and paying for advice, or paying him to come out give the advice.
Shouldn't cost but a hundred or so.
I bet it would save you time and grief in the end.
Do you have the new seat(s)?

--Vic

No I have not purchased anything. Seeking direction before any purchasing.
In the past I have always done things the opposite and it has bit me in the
ass!! The unfortunate part, here where I am there are no "experts" that I
know of....Northeast PA

Tim Fisher


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:07:55 -0500, "Jeepinit"
wrote:

Here is what I got.

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1281.JPG

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1282.JPG

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1283.JPG

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1284.JPG

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1285.JPG

Hope this helps alittle. The boat is a 1990 Maxum 19 ft

Again Thanks!!

Tim Fisher

I'd have a pro do it, but.....
If I was going to do it myself I'd go to a pro, by taking the boat to
him and paying for advice, or paying him to come out give the advice.
Shouldn't cost but a hundred or so.
I bet it would save you time and grief in the end.
Do you have the new seat(s)?

--Vic

On Jan 5, 1:07*pm, "Jeepinit" wrote:
Here is what I got.

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1281.JPG

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1282.JPG

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1283.JPG

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1284.JPG

http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1285.JPG

Hope this helps alittle. *The boat is a 1990 Maxum 19 ft

Again Thanks!!

Tim Fisher

"Tim" wrote in message

...
On Jan 5, 10:47 am, "Jeepinit" wrote:





I began the dismantling process last evening. My question is; Should I
remove the base that is fiberglass to the floor? Take a saw zall and cut
the base out? What is underneath? is the base built on the floor or is it
hollow underneath it? What would look the best? I can take pictures and
share is anyone is intrested in helping me out.

Tim Fisher

"Tim" wrote in message

....
On Jan 3, 7:07 pm, John H wrote:

On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:32:07 -0500, "Jeepinit" wrote:
In the past I have seeked the wisdom of this forum with great success.
I
am
once again seeking some direction. I purchased a 1990 Maxum 19 ft last
year. The only thing I dislike about the boat is the seating. It has
the
folddown seats on both sides. I do not mind the seats anywhere except
at
the wheel. It is an extremly uncomfortable seat. I continually had to
prop
cushions under me to see. I need to change this while she is in
storage.
Where do I go to find ideas? Maybe removing the seat and installing a
captain chair on a pedestal? Looking for ideas, where and how tos.

Thanks all!!

Tim

Another Tim, oh no!

Oh yeeeessss!

Those seats you have are quite common in the runabouts. one thing you
can do is remove the seat from the box it sits on and raise them from
there, OR cover the box, make it sturdy and use it for a pedistal and
put about any seat you want on it. If you're going to remove the seat
entirely and instal "captains chairs" you may have some problems with
working under the decking as suggested.

A friend of mine took the rotten seats off the boxes and went to the
local salvage yard and got some import bucket seats for about $10. or
$15.00. complete with sliding adjusters. He mounted them on top of the
boxes after he'd reinforced them, and they work fairly well. he was
going to make them rotatable, but didn't have time last year. i don't'
know if he's working on them for this coming season or not.

i ought to find out.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Post your pic's, Tim. You;ll get some honest suggestions here. If it
has fiberglass basses I would say they're mounted to the floor fairly
securly, but then again I don't know. I really wouldn't take a saws-
all to anything because it sounds to me like it would be unnecessary,
and aperson could risk butchering stoff that shouldn't be. In fnything
at all, I'd say that the boxe's are hollow, though. if the base
*looks* like a solid block with a solid top, then that would probably
eliminate a lot of work.

But Yes, post the pics and let's see whats going on.

Tim Schnautz- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


If those boxes are still stable I might just stiffen em' up with a
some slats and put a top on them and hook up some cheap seats while
you look for a new (used) hull. Lot's should come up available next
season as gas and the economy force people away from the sport... But
you got my off list emails so I have a couple of outlooks on this...

On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:17:34 -0500, "Jeepinit"
wrote:

No I have not purchased anything. Seeking direction before any purchasing.
In the past I have always done things the opposite and it has bit me in the
ass!! The unfortunate part, here where I am there are no "experts" that I
know of....Northeast PA

I'd take my time then until I found one. Somebody said put the
sawzall away, and I second that.
You can leave the boxes alone until you're sure what's involved if you
cut them out.
Bet you got plenty of other thing you can fix up on that boat that
won't need a sawzall!
I used to screw up a lot of stuff before I learned patience.
It was fun! I was making progress! But it was backwards!
And costly.

--Vic

On Jan 5, 12:07*pm, "Jeepinit" wrote:
Here is what I got.



http://www.jeepinit.com/pictures/106_1285.JPG



OK, that shows a lot.

Of course seats can depend on what you want and what kind of budget
you're looking into. If you want to go the cheap route you might
consider something like this in the color you want

http://www.overtons.com/modperl/prod...ID=1009&r=view

That's about as cheap as you can get but I would think that the higher
back would be much more comfortable with little extra cost

http://www.overtons.com/modperl/prod...ID=1009&r=view

And build up the base to the height you prefer or get or make a short
pedestal

Making a pedestal isn't hard to do either. The guy I mentioned before
that put the junk yard seats in a boat also did another only with
homemade pedestals. Instead of *buying* a pedestal like this:

http://www.marineengine.com/products... +MOUNTING+KIT
my friend made one very easily, because unless you want something
that's telescopic, or is going to cost a wad and not work or fit what
he did was got a large pipe flange and a pipe to fit the seat base
that he bought. screwed the pipe into the flange, anchored the flange
to the floor before he mounted the wood on the base box and it looked
something like this:

http://www.instructables.com/files/d...H3U.MEDIUM.jpg

he then cut the pipe to fit the base of the seat mount, then mounted
the wood with the hardware on top of the boxes. The wood he used
capped the boxes.

with some DIY, he had less than a hundred per side in both front
seats.

BTW, if you attempt this, and if you don't use a slider or a swivel,
and don't like how it sits, you can always redo it easily.

At least that's my view.

Hey tim.

How's the seat project coming so far?

Tim Schnautz

I think what I have decided, because the floor is weak in spots, is to take
some composite material 1/4 inch thick and recover the floor and rebox the
box to the right height using 1/2 material, then maybe just use the same
seat the was there. That still may be up in the air. But you guys are
truly awesome!!

Tim Fisher


"Tim" wrote in message
...
Hey tim.

How's the seat project coming so far?

Tim Schnautz

On Jan 7, 11:48*am, "Jeepinit" wrote:
I think what I have decided, because the floor is weak in spots, is to take
some composite material 1/4 inch thick and recover the floor and rebox the
box to the right height using 1/2 material, then maybe just use the same
seat the was there. *That still may be up in the air. *But you guys are
truly awesome!!

Tim Fisher

"Tim" wrote in message

...



Hey tim.

How's the seat project coming so far?

Tim Schnautz- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'm sorry to say this but if the floor has rot then you probably ought
to be looking under it as well. Rot is a bit light an iceburg
sometimes, the part you see is just the tipg. I replaced the floor in
my 1990 bowrider and it was not mentally challenging but it was about
the messiest, ugly work I've ever done.

You should be able to find the stringers by sounding on the floor.
They will run front to back of course and most likely there will be 4
of them. If the hull has strakes in it they might be at those points.

You can test the various wood components for rot by drilling into them
with a 1/4" wood bit. Examine the material coming out. It probably
will be wet but if it is very dark and mushy then you have probably
found rot. Get some epoxy and filler from the boat store, mix, and
fill the hole with it when you are finished unless it was bad and is
going to have to be fixed.

On runabouts rot tends to be worst in the back. You should check the
floor, the stringers, and the transom as these are the three places
that have wood components. If it is bad everywhere then you probably
should just fill the holes and figure that you're not going to get a
lot of years out of this boat.

If it is not too bad then it is possible to salvage the boat but it
might be some work to do it right. You can saturate wood that is not
completely gone with an epoxy/alcohol mixture. Don't waste your money
on any high-dollar rot fix epoxy. It's the same thing as regular
epoxy with alcohol added.

wrote:


On runabouts rot tends to be worst in the back. You should check the
floor, the stringers, and the transom as these are the three places
that have wood components. If it is bad everywhere then you probably
should just fill the holes and figure that you're not going to get a
lot of years out of this boat.

If it is not too bad then it is possible to salvage the boat but it
might be some work to do it right. You can saturate wood that is not
completely gone with an epoxy/alcohol mixture. Don't waste your money
on any high-dollar rot fix epoxy. It's the same thing as regular
epoxy with alcohol added.

I had a runabout that had wood rot down the the middle of the boat,
where the water would sit in the "V" of the boat. I purchased 4x8
marine grade plywood, and cut out the middle 4 foot section. I had to
replace the stingers closest to the V, but the rest of the stringers and
floor was in great shape. I did apply fiberglass and resin to the top
part of the deck, but did not apply epoxy or fiberglass to the bottom.
I was told you want to allow the plywood to dry out. If you completely
fiberglasses the plywood, it would just hold the moisture in. I then
replaced the carpet with some indoor/outdoor carpet. It was a fairly
cheap repair. When I sold the boat a number of years later, it was
still in great shape, and the floor sounded very solid.