On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:57:03 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:18:55 -0500, John H
wrote:


I'm thinking these may work. This piece would go into the bottom of the
stainless steel upright:

http://tacomarine.com/item--Top-Caps...set+screw.html

And the ball would go into this piece, screwed or through-bolted to the
gunwale.

http://tacomarine.com/item--Deck-Hinge--F13-0301.html

This *looks* like it would allow a good deal of lateral swaying before any
stress would be placed on the mounting screws.

That's *my* story.

Ah - my mistake - I didn't comprehend what you were talking about.

My bad - I had the impression you wanted to dampen the lateral swaying
rather than prevent stress from messing up the mounts.

Yeah - those might work, but looking at the design you might get more
sway than you want. That might put added stress on the assembly
itself and cause it to distort or, possible, even collapse.

Just a thought.

Yabut,

Even with his "increased" lateral sway, at some point it stops and the same
forces (or more, due to acceleration) are imposed on the mounting bracket
screws. He's just introducing a time delay.

Good point.

Which brings us back to square one - stop the sway.

On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:58:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:34:46 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:18:55 -0500, John H
wrote:


I'm thinking these may work. This piece would go into the bottom of the
stainless steel upright:

http://tacomarine.com/item--Top-Caps...set+screw.html

And the ball would go into this piece, screwed or through-bolted to the
gunwale.

http://tacomarine.com/item--Deck-Hinge--F13-0301.html

This *looks* like it would allow a good deal of lateral swaying before any
stress would be placed on the mounting screws.

That's *my* story.

Ah - my mistake - I didn't comprehend what you were talking about.

My bad - I had the impression you wanted to dampen the lateral swaying
rather than prevent stress from messing up the mounts.

Yeah - those might work, but looking at the design you might get more
sway than you want. That might put added stress on the assembly
itself and cause it to distort or, possible, even collapse.

Just a thought.

And a good thought. I've got to find a place that stocks these and see what
they look like. West Marine supposedly carries them, but I've not been yet.
Maybe tomorrow. After golf. If the weather's decent.

Priorities, you know.

10-4.

PS: I need to send those DVDs to you over the next week.

--

"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."

Theodore Roosevelt.

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:15:26 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

I don't care if they are ball and socket, pinned or magnetically attached.

Magnets.

KEWL!!!

I got one of these for Christmas in my Santa Stocking.

http://www.theneocube.com/

I can't stop playing with it when I'm bored.

--

"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."

Theodore Roosevelt.

On Jan 4, 6:34*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:15:26 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

I don't care if they are ball and socket, pinned or magnetically attached.

Magnets.

KEWL!!!

I got one of these for Christmas in my Santa Stocking.

http://www.theneocube.com/

I can't stop playing with it when I'm bored.

--

"Do what you can, with what you
have, where you are."

Theodore Roosevelt.

Holy ****, with my OCD just watching the video drove me nuts, having
one would probably leave me in a rubber room... Kewl is right...

On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:34:32 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:15:26 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

I don't care if they are ball and socket, pinned or magnetically attached.

Magnets.

KEWL!!!

I got one of these for Christmas in my Santa Stocking.

http://www.theneocube.com/

I can't stop playing with it when I'm bored.

But then don't you get mad about the missing strawberries?
That's why I gave up fondling ball bearings.
Made me think about the strawberries.

--Vic

On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:54:32 -0600, Vic Smith wrote:


But then don't you get mad about the missing strawberries? That's why I
gave up fondling ball bearings. Made me think about the strawberries.

Ball bearings? Damn, all these years, I thought they were Ben Wa
balls. ;-)

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:15:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
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On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:57:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:18:55 -0500, John H
wrote:


I'm thinking these may work. This piece would go into the bottom of the
stainless steel upright:

http://tacomarine.com/item--Top-Caps...set+screw.html

And the ball would go into this piece, screwed or through-bolted to the
gunwale.

http://tacomarine.com/item--Deck-Hinge--F13-0301.html

This *looks* like it would allow a good deal of lateral swaying before
any
stress would be placed on the mounting screws.

That's *my* story.

Ah - my mistake - I didn't comprehend what you were talking about.

My bad - I had the impression you wanted to dampen the lateral swaying
rather than prevent stress from messing up the mounts.

Yeah - those might work, but looking at the design you might get more
sway than you want. That might put added stress on the assembly
itself and cause it to distort or, possible, even collapse.

Just a thought.



Yabut,

Even with his "increased" lateral sway, at some point it stops and the
same
forces (or more, due to acceleration) are imposed on the mounting bracket
screws. He's just introducing a time delay.

Eisboch

It's ok to talk directly to me!

You're correct, if conditions were severe, the swaying could eventually
cause the upper part of the socket to contact the sides of the base.
Hopefully I'd have enough sense to take down the bimini before the swaying
got that bad.

(No comments about that last line, please!)

As it is now, almost *any* swaying is stressing the bottom bracket and
therefore the mounting screws.


John, I don't know how to make this more clear.

*All* of your lateral "swaying" forces are transmitted to your gunnel
brackets.
I don't care if they are ball and socket, pinned or magnetically attached.

Eisboch

Right.

On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:21:05 -0500, John H wrote:

On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:15:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
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On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:57:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:18:55 -0500, John H
wrote:


I'm thinking these may work. This piece would go into the bottom of the
stainless steel upright:

http://tacomarine.com/item--Top-Caps...set+screw.html

And the ball would go into this piece, screwed or through-bolted to the
gunwale.

http://tacomarine.com/item--Deck-Hinge--F13-0301.html

This *looks* like it would allow a good deal of lateral swaying before
any
stress would be placed on the mounting screws.

That's *my* story.

Ah - my mistake - I didn't comprehend what you were talking about.

My bad - I had the impression you wanted to dampen the lateral swaying
rather than prevent stress from messing up the mounts.

Yeah - those might work, but looking at the design you might get more
sway than you want. That might put added stress on the assembly
itself and cause it to distort or, possible, even collapse.

Just a thought.



Yabut,

Even with his "increased" lateral sway, at some point it stops and the
same
forces (or more, due to acceleration) are imposed on the mounting bracket
screws. He's just introducing a time delay.

Eisboch

It's ok to talk directly to me!

You're correct, if conditions were severe, the swaying could eventually
cause the upper part of the socket to contact the sides of the base.
Hopefully I'd have enough sense to take down the bimini before the swaying
got that bad.

(No comments about that last line, please!)

As it is now, almost *any* swaying is stressing the bottom bracket and
therefore the mounting screws.


John, I don't know how to make this more clear.

*All* of your lateral "swaying" forces are transmitted to your gunnel
brackets.
I don't care if they are ball and socket, pinned or magnetically attached.

Eisboch

Right.

Whoops. Hit button too soon.

Right, Looks like I'll invest in some bungee cords. One attached to the top
sides of the CC frame and to the adjacent bimini sides should cut way down
on the sway.

Thanks. That probably saved a few bucks!

On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:04:56 -0600, wrote:

On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:54:32 -0600, Vic Smith wrote:


But then don't you get mad about the missing strawberries? That's why I
gave up fondling ball bearings. Made me think about the strawberries.

Ball bearings? Damn, all these years, I thought they were Ben Wa
balls. ;-)

Ah - see?

Now you gotta take it into the gutter.

Jeesum pete.... :)

--

"An idealist is one who, on noticing that
a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes
that it will also make better soup."

H.L. Mencken

wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:54:32 -0600, Vic Smith wrote:


But then don't you get mad about the missing strawberries? That's why I
gave up fondling ball bearings. Made me think about the strawberries.

Ball bearings? Damn, all these years, I thought they were Ben Wa
balls. ;-)

Who is Ben Wa?