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On Jan 6, 10:42 pm, "Don White" wrote:
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I am posting this from a bike group I go to.. Maybe you guys can make
a good suggestion and I can pass it along..

SNIP
OT, but I figure some of the regulars in this group are the type to
carry and use multitools. I'm looking to get one that has a solid
set
of pliers that don't shimmy side to side when twisting things, with
at
least the basics for additional tools (screwdrivers, knife, etc).
It'll be for boating use as well as on the dirt bike, so I don't
really like the designs that have separate drivers for the
screwdriver
part, since I could see losing one in rough seas, and wouldn't want
to be fiddling with getting out the proper bit and inserting it into
the tool while on the cabintop of a rocking boat.

The best thing I found hope for in my research was a Kershaw
multitool, but it's been discontinued. My everyday pocket knife is a
Kershaw 1550, and it's a great, great knife. Very well built, going
strong after years of tough use and conditions, and has a lifetime
warranty behind it if it ever does flake out on me.

Any multitools I've used have done many things poorly. I'd like to
find one that does a few things well, with a special focus on the
pliers. This (along with my satisfaction with their other products)
is why i liked the looks of the Kershaw so much - the pliers were not
retractable and as such were supposedly much stiffer than your
average
multitool. They were also locking like vice grips, but that part I
can do without.

Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc. I'm looking for advice on a good multitool I can buy
at the store in '09, not what was a great tool back in the 80's when
tools were commonly made to be used.

So, if you carry something along these lines and are happy with it,
please tell me what and why.

/SNIP

Thanks, Scotty

Back in 1997 we were closing up a small union local and preparing to join
with a larger union.
Had some money to dispose of so I bought about 32 Schrade Tough Tools for
the members.
I also went to a local leather artist and had little patches made with the
union local #, it's logo and the dates it served the members.
These patches were sewn onto the leather belt pouches the tool came with.
I presented them with custom t-shirts at a goodbye party to the 2.5 dozen
current members plus a few past execs.
Everybody loved them except for a few of the girls. Can't please
everyone.http://www.botachtactical.com/schrade1.html- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Did Harry help you with that tall tale?
************************************************** *********

Seems to me y'all down there are a real bettin' group.
What do you wager that I can't produce a picture of two of the units with
the obvious union patch and who knows...maybe the original receipt from
Canadian Tire.
I was the treasurer and acting president at time of close-up so I should
still have the voucher/receipt here.
Hurry up...the wife has been after me to trash all my old union
documents......it has been beyond the 7 year period. (except for my last
stint with the Guild)

Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:42:55 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
I am posting this from a bike group I go to.. Maybe you guys can make
a good suggestion and I can pass it along..

SNIP
OT, but I figure some of the regulars in this group are the type to
carry and use multitools. I'm looking to get one that has a solid
set
of pliers that don't shimmy side to side when twisting things, with
at
least the basics for additional tools (screwdrivers, knife, etc).
It'll be for boating use as well as on the dirt bike, so I don't
really like the designs that have separate drivers for the
screwdriver
part, since I could see losing one in rough seas, and wouldn't want
to be fiddling with getting out the proper bit and inserting it into
the tool while on the cabintop of a rocking boat.

The best thing I found hope for in my research was a Kershaw
multitool, but it's been discontinued. My everyday pocket knife is a
Kershaw 1550, and it's a great, great knife. Very well built, going
strong after years of tough use and conditions, and has a lifetime
warranty behind it if it ever does flake out on me.


Any multitools I've used have done many things poorly. I'd like to
find one that does a few things well, with a special focus on the
pliers. This (along with my satisfaction with their other products)
is why i liked the looks of the Kershaw so much - the pliers were not
retractable and as such were supposedly much stiffer than your
average
multitool. They were also locking like vice grips, but that part I
can do without.


Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc. I'm looking for advice on a good multitool I can buy
at the store in '09, not what was a great tool back in the 80's when
tools were commonly made to be used.


So, if you carry something along these lines and are happy with it,
please tell me what and why.

/SNIP

Thanks, Scotty
Back in 1997 we were closing up a small union local and preparing to join
with a larger union.
Had some money to dispose of so I bought about 32 Schrade Tough Tools for
the members.
I also went to a local leather artist and had little patches made with the
union local #, it's logo and the dates it served the members.
These patches were sewn onto the leather belt pouches the tool came with.
I presented them with custom t-shirts at a goodbye party to the 2.5 dozen
current members plus a few past execs.
Everybody loved them except for a few of the girls. Can't please
everyone.
http://www.botachtactical.com/schrade1.html
How long did they last?

Mine is like new..except for the tiny 'slot' screwdriver tip. I mangled it
a bit trying to remove small rusted towel rack set screws.
Always meant to send it back for repair under warranty..or simply file down
to a useable tip.
(note: I should disclose that other than the original oiling and tedius
high repition break-in period, so I could open and use the pliers single
handed, the tool got limited use)


Whatever made you think you could remove a hex fastener with a flat
blade tool. You should file all your tools down to a dull point.

Don White wrote:
wrote in message
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On Jan 6, 10:42 pm, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message

...





I am posting this from a bike group I go to.. Maybe you guys can make
a good suggestion and I can pass it along..
SNIP
OT, but I figure some of the regulars in this group are the type to
carry and use multitools. I'm looking to get one that has a solid
set
of pliers that don't shimmy side to side when twisting things, with
at
least the basics for additional tools (screwdrivers, knife, etc).
It'll be for boating use as well as on the dirt bike, so I don't
really like the designs that have separate drivers for the
screwdriver
part, since I could see losing one in rough seas, and wouldn't want
to be fiddling with getting out the proper bit and inserting it into
the tool while on the cabintop of a rocking boat.
The best thing I found hope for in my research was a Kershaw
multitool, but it's been discontinued. My everyday pocket knife is a
Kershaw 1550, and it's a great, great knife. Very well built, going
strong after years of tough use and conditions, and has a lifetime
warranty behind it if it ever does flake out on me.
Any multitools I've used have done many things poorly. I'd like to
find one that does a few things well, with a special focus on the
pliers. This (along with my satisfaction with their other products)
is why i liked the looks of the Kershaw so much - the pliers were not
retractable and as such were supposedly much stiffer than your
average
multitool. They were also locking like vice grips, but that part I
can do without.
Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc. I'm looking for advice on a good multitool I can buy
at the store in '09, not what was a great tool back in the 80's when
tools were commonly made to be used.
So, if you carry something along these lines and are happy with it,
please tell me what and why.
/SNIP
Thanks, Scotty
Back in 1997 we were closing up a small union local and preparing to join
with a larger union.
Had some money to dispose of so I bought about 32 Schrade Tough Tools for
the members.
I also went to a local leather artist and had little patches made with the
union local #, it's logo and the dates it served the members.
These patches were sewn onto the leather belt pouches the tool came with.
I presented them with custom t-shirts at a goodbye party to the 2.5 dozen
current members plus a few past execs.
Everybody loved them except for a few of the girls. Can't please
everyone.http://www.botachtactical.com/schrade1.html- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Did Harry help you with that tall tale?
************************************************** *********

Seems to me y'all down there are a real bettin' group.
What do you wager that I can't produce a picture of two of the units with
the obvious union patch and who knows...maybe the original receipt from
Canadian Tire.
I was the treasurer and acting president at time of close-up so I should
still have the voucher/receipt here.
Hurry up...the wife has been after me to trash all my old union
documents......it has been beyond the 7 year period. (except for my last
stint with the Guild)




BTW, consider this: loogy *is* a multi-tool. Every nasty rightie in here
uses him.

"Jim" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:42:55 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
I am posting this from a bike group I go to.. Maybe you guys can make
a good suggestion and I can pass it along..

SNIP
OT, but I figure some of the regulars in this group are the type to
carry and use multitools. I'm looking to get one that has a solid
set
of pliers that don't shimmy side to side when twisting things, with
at
least the basics for additional tools (screwdrivers, knife, etc).
It'll be for boating use as well as on the dirt bike, so I don't
really like the designs that have separate drivers for the
screwdriver
part, since I could see losing one in rough seas, and wouldn't want
to be fiddling with getting out the proper bit and inserting it into
the tool while on the cabintop of a rocking boat.

The best thing I found hope for in my research was a Kershaw
multitool, but it's been discontinued. My everyday pocket knife is a
Kershaw 1550, and it's a great, great knife. Very well built, going
strong after years of tough use and conditions, and has a lifetime
warranty behind it if it ever does flake out on me.


Any multitools I've used have done many things poorly. I'd like to
find one that does a few things well, with a special focus on the
pliers. This (along with my satisfaction with their other products)
is why i liked the looks of the Kershaw so much - the pliers were not
retractable and as such were supposedly much stiffer than your
average
multitool. They were also locking like vice grips, but that part I
can do without.


Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc. I'm looking for advice on a good multitool I can buy
at the store in '09, not what was a great tool back in the 80's when
tools were commonly made to be used.


So, if you carry something along these lines and are happy with it,
please tell me what and why.

/SNIP

Thanks, Scotty
Back in 1997 we were closing up a small union local and preparing to
join
with a larger union.
Had some money to dispose of so I bought about 32 Schrade Tough Tools
for
the members.
I also went to a local leather artist and had little patches made with
the
union local #, it's logo and the dates it served the members.
These patches were sewn onto the leather belt pouches the tool came
with.
I presented them with custom t-shirts at a goodbye party to the 2.5
dozen
current members plus a few past execs.
Everybody loved them except for a few of the girls. Can't please
everyone.
http://www.botachtactical.com/schrade1.html
How long did they last?

Mine is like new..except for the tiny 'slot' screwdriver tip. I mangled
it a bit trying to remove small rusted towel rack set screws.
Always meant to send it back for repair under warranty..or simply file
down to a useable tip.
(note: I should disclose that other than the original oiling and tedius
high repition break-in period, so I could open and use the pliers single
handed, the tool got limited use)
Whatever made you think you could remove a hex fastener with a flat blade
tool. You should file all your tools down to a dull point.

Hee hee...this set screw did have a slot cut...meant for a very narrow 'slot
type' screwdriver.
All the ones I see now are the hex, or Allan key type.

On Jan 7, 9:21*am, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jan 6, 10:42 pm, "Don White" wrote:





wrote in message

...

I am posting this from a bike group I go to.. Maybe you guys can make
a good suggestion and I can pass it along..

SNIP
OT, but I figure some of the regulars in this group are the type to
carry and use multitools. I'm looking to get one that has a solid
set
of pliers that don't shimmy side to side when twisting things, with
at
least the basics for additional tools (screwdrivers, knife, etc).
It'll be for boating use as well as on the dirt bike, so I don't
really like the designs that have separate drivers for the
screwdriver
part, since I could see losing one in rough seas, and wouldn't want
to be fiddling with getting out the proper bit and inserting it into
the tool while on the cabintop of a rocking boat.

The best thing I found hope for in my research was a Kershaw
multitool, but it's been discontinued. My everyday pocket knife is a
Kershaw 1550, and it's a great, great knife. Very well built, going
strong after years of tough use and conditions, and has a lifetime
warranty behind it if it ever does flake out on me.

Any multitools I've used have done many things poorly. I'd like to
find one that does a few things well, with a special focus on the
pliers. This (along with my satisfaction with their other products)
is why i liked the looks of the Kershaw so much - the pliers were not
retractable and as such were supposedly much stiffer than your
average
multitool. They were also locking like vice grips, but that part I
can do without.

Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc. I'm looking for advice on a good multitool I can buy
at the store in '09, not what was a great tool back in the 80's when
tools were commonly made to be used.

So, if you carry something along these lines and are happy with it,
please tell me what and why.

/SNIP

Thanks, Scotty

Back in 1997 we were closing up a small union local and preparing to join
with a larger union.
Had some money to dispose of so I bought about 32 Schrade Tough Tools for
the members.
I also went to a local leather artist and had little patches made with the
union local #, it's logo and the dates it served the members.
These patches were sewn onto the leather belt pouches the tool came with.
I presented them with custom t-shirts at a goodbye party to the 2.5 dozen
current members plus a few past execs.
Everybody loved them except for a few of the girls. Can't please
everyone.http://www.botachtactical.com/schrade1.html-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Did Harry help you with that tall tale?
************************************************** *********

Seems to me y'all down there are a real bettin' group.
What do you wager that I can't produce a picture of two of the units with
the obvious union patch and who knows...maybe the original receipt from
Canadian Tire.
I was the treasurer and acting president at time of close-up so I should
still have the voucher/receipt here.
Hurry up...the wife has been after me to trash all my old union
documents......it has been beyond the 7 year period. *(except for my last
stint with the Guild)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

How on earth would the above prove that you provided all of that to
every member in your union?
Besides, when we were discussing your angle that you think, like
Harry, that people who don't use their real names are cowards, you
said you weren't a betting man. Which is it? Either you are, or you
aren't.

On Jan 7, 8:47*am, Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 7, 8:00 am, hk wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
....
On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc
Excuse me?
Leatherman tools rule.
Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife?
Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer.
A decent tool box doesn't take up much space.
If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it
before I get rid of it.
Already posted my address.
--Vic
The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room
for a toolbox, even a small one...
===========
If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the thing
for your friend.
That's the one I have...but I understand Leatherman "retired" that
model. It's a great little pocket tool. I even pack it in my checked-in
luggage when I fly somewhere. Used to be able to keep it in my pocket....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You're not allowed to have them on a commercial flight because it has
a knife, liar.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...tted-prohibite...

He is a liar, but not necessarily in this case. You need to apologize to
harold.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nope, I would have, but the fat slob had to instantly start his
insults, so, no thanks. Harry's so desperate here for someone to talk
to him that he's acting like the former Tuuk

wrote in message
...
On Jan 7, 8:47 am, Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 7, 8:00 am, hk wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc
Excuse me?
Leatherman tools rule.
Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife?
Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer.
A decent tool box doesn't take up much space.
If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at
it
before I get rid of it.
Already posted my address.
--Vic
The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room
for a toolbox, even a small one...
===========
If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the
thing
for your friend.
That's the one I have...but I understand Leatherman "retired" that
model. It's a great little pocket tool. I even pack it in my checked-in
luggage when I fly somewhere. Used to be able to keep it in my
pocket...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You're not allowed to have them on a commercial flight because it has
a knife, liar.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...tted-prohibite...

He is a liar, but not necessarily in this case. You need to apologize to
harold.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nope, I would have, but the fat slob had to instantly start his
insults, so, no thanks. Harry's so desperate here for someone to talk
to him that he's acting like the former Tuuk

==============

OK...let me get this straight:

1) You read what he said, but did not comprehend all of it.

2) You posted a link which failed to prove your point.

3) You're not mature enough to admit you were wrong.

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:15:58 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

How long did they last?

Mine is like new..except for the tiny 'slot' screwdriver tip. I mangled it
a bit trying to remove small rusted towel rack set screws.
Always meant to send it back for repair under warranty..or simply file down
to a useable tip.
(note: I should disclose that other than the original oiling and tedius
high repition break-in period, so I could open and use the pliers single
handed, the tool got limited use)

The reason I asked was because I had one and had nothing but bad
things to say about it. Seemed flimsy to me.

I have Leatherman tools - the big multi-set and two of the standard
tools - never had a problem with any of them.

Now that I think about it, I've had the one I carry on my belt for at
least ten years - still looks new and I use it all the time.

On Jan 7, 9:50*am, wrote:
On Jan 7, 8:47*am, Jim wrote:





wrote:
On Jan 7, 8:00 am, hk wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 6, 10:36 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc
Excuse me?
Leatherman tools rule.
Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife?
Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer.
A decent tool box doesn't take up much space.
If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it
before I get rid of it.
Already posted my address.
--Vic
The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room
for a toolbox, even a small one...
===========
If the Leatherman Wave is good enough for Les Stroud, it's just the thing
for your friend.
That's the one I have...but I understand Leatherman "retired" that
model. It's a great little pocket tool. I even pack it in my checked-in
luggage when I fly somewhere. Used to be able to keep it in my pocket...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You're not allowed to have them on a commercial flight because it has
a knife, liar.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...tted-prohibite....

He is a liar, but not necessarily in this case. You need to apologize to
harold.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nope, I would have, but the fat slob had to instantly start his
insults, so, no thanks. Harry's so desperate here for someone to talk
to him that he's acting like the former Tuuk- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Either way, I invited a guy from another group to keep up with this
thread so let's all make a good impression please

On Jan 7, 10:10*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:15:58 -0400, "Don White"

wrote:
How long did they last?

Mine is like new..except for the tiny 'slot' screwdriver tip. *I mangled it
a bit trying to remove small rusted towel rack set screws.
Always meant to send it back for repair under warranty..or simply file down
to a useable tip.
(note: *I should disclose that other than the original oiling and tedius
high repition break-in period, so I could open and use the pliers single
handed, the tool got limited use)

The reason I asked was because I had one and had nothing but bad
things to say about it. *Seemed flimsy to me.

I have Leatherman tools - the big multi-set and two of the standard
tools - never had a problem with any of them.

Now that I think about it, I've had the one I carry on my belt for at
least ten years - still looks new and I use it all the time.

I have a Leatherman "Super Tool", and while it's never given me a
problem, I don't really like it that much. When you flip it open to
use the pliers, the "handles" have the open sides out, which then digs
into your hand if you need to apply much pressure. It is fairly
bullet-proof, but the design has been retired now.