I am posting this from a bike group I go to.. Maybe you guys can make
a good suggestion and I can pass it along..

SNIP
OT, but I figure some of the regulars in this group are the type to
carry and use multitools. I'm looking to get one that has a solid
set
of pliers that don't shimmy side to side when twisting things, with
at
least the basics for additional tools (screwdrivers, knife, etc).
It'll be for boating use as well as on the dirt bike, so I don't
really like the designs that have separate drivers for the
screwdriver
part, since I could see losing one in rough seas, and wouldn't want
to be fiddling with getting out the proper bit and inserting it into
the tool while on the cabintop of a rocking boat.

The best thing I found hope for in my research was a Kershaw
multitool, but it's been discontinued. My everyday pocket knife is a
Kershaw 1550, and it's a great, great knife. Very well built, going
strong after years of tough use and conditions, and has a lifetime
warranty behind it if it ever does flake out on me.


Any multitools I've used have done many things poorly. I'd like to
find one that does a few things well, with a special focus on the
pliers. This (along with my satisfaction with their other products)
is why i liked the looks of the Kershaw so much - the pliers were not
retractable and as such were supposedly much stiffer than your
average
multitool. They were also locking like vice grips, but that part I
can do without.


Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc. I'm looking for advice on a good multitool I can buy
at the store in '09, not what was a great tool back in the 80's when
tools were commonly made to be used.


So, if you carry something along these lines and are happy with it,
please tell me what and why.

/SNIP

Thanks, Scotty

I have a Leatherman in every vehicle I own. There are different types of
them, so you can get whatever you need. They also have a 25 year warranty
which may as well be lifetime. I've needed to use the warranty one time in
the 6 or so Leathermans I own. You can't go wrong.

http://www.leatherman.com/

--Mike

wrote in message
...
I am posting this from a bike group I go to.. Maybe you guys can make
a good suggestion and I can pass it along..

SNIP
OT, but I figure some of the regulars in this group are the type to
carry and use multitools. I'm looking to get one that has a solid
set
of pliers that don't shimmy side to side when twisting things, with
at
least the basics for additional tools (screwdrivers, knife, etc).
It'll be for boating use as well as on the dirt bike, so I don't
really like the designs that have separate drivers for the
screwdriver
part, since I could see losing one in rough seas, and wouldn't want
to be fiddling with getting out the proper bit and inserting it into
the tool while on the cabintop of a rocking boat.

The best thing I found hope for in my research was a Kershaw
multitool, but it's been discontinued. My everyday pocket knife is a
Kershaw 1550, and it's a great, great knife. Very well built, going
strong after years of tough use and conditions, and has a lifetime
warranty behind it if it ever does flake out on me.


Any multitools I've used have done many things poorly. I'd like to
find one that does a few things well, with a special focus on the
pliers. This (along with my satisfaction with their other products)
is why i liked the looks of the Kershaw so much - the pliers were not
retractable and as such were supposedly much stiffer than your
average
multitool. They were also locking like vice grips, but that part I
can do without.


Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc. I'm looking for advice on a good multitool I can buy
at the store in '09, not what was a great tool back in the 80's when
tools were commonly made to be used.


So, if you carry something along these lines and are happy with it,
please tell me what and why.

/SNIP

Thanks, Scotty

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc

Excuse me?

Leatherman tools rule.

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc

However, to answer your question, the small set of Channel Lock pliers
is a great tool and it fits into a Leatherman case.

"Mike" wrote in message
...
I have a Leatherman in every vehicle I own. There are different types of
them, so you can get whatever you need. They also have a 25 year warranty
which may as well be lifetime. I've needed to use the warranty one time in
the 6 or so Leathermans I own. You can't go wrong.

http://www.leatherman.com/

--Mike

wrote in message
...
I am posting this from a bike group I go to.. Maybe you guys can make
a good suggestion and I can pass it along..

SNIP
OT, but I figure some of the regulars in this group are the type to
carry and use multitools. I'm looking to get one that has a solid
set
of pliers that don't shimmy side to side when twisting things, with
at
least the basics for additional tools (screwdrivers, knife, etc).
It'll be for boating use as well as on the dirt bike, so I don't
really like the designs that have separate drivers for the
screwdriver
part, since I could see losing one in rough seas, and wouldn't want
to be fiddling with getting out the proper bit and inserting it into
the tool while on the cabintop of a rocking boat.

The best thing I found hope for in my research was a Kershaw
multitool, but it's been discontinued. My everyday pocket knife is a
Kershaw 1550, and it's a great, great knife. Very well built, going
strong after years of tough use and conditions, and has a lifetime
warranty behind it if it ever does flake out on me.


Any multitools I've used have done many things poorly. I'd like to
find one that does a few things well, with a special focus on the
pliers. This (along with my satisfaction with their other products)
is why i liked the looks of the Kershaw so much - the pliers were not
retractable and as such were supposedly much stiffer than your
average
multitool. They were also locking like vice grips, but that part I
can do without.


Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc. I'm looking for advice on a good multitool I can buy
at the store in '09, not what was a great tool back in the 80's when
tools were commonly made to be used.


So, if you carry something along these lines and are happy with it,
please tell me what and why.

/SNIP

Thanks, Scotty



I like the Leatherman Wave. You can open the knive blades from the outside.

On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc

Excuse me?

Leatherman tools rule.

Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife?
Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer.
A decent tool box doesn't take up much space.
If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it
before I get rid of it.
Already posted my address.

--Vic

wrote in message
...
I am posting this from a bike group I go to.. Maybe you guys can make
a good suggestion and I can pass it along..

SNIP
OT, but I figure some of the regulars in this group are the type to
carry and use multitools. I'm looking to get one that has a solid
set
of pliers that don't shimmy side to side when twisting things, with
at
least the basics for additional tools (screwdrivers, knife, etc).
It'll be for boating use as well as on the dirt bike, so I don't
really like the designs that have separate drivers for the
screwdriver
part, since I could see losing one in rough seas, and wouldn't want
to be fiddling with getting out the proper bit and inserting it into
the tool while on the cabintop of a rocking boat.

The best thing I found hope for in my research was a Kershaw
multitool, but it's been discontinued. My everyday pocket knife is a
Kershaw 1550, and it's a great, great knife. Very well built, going
strong after years of tough use and conditions, and has a lifetime
warranty behind it if it ever does flake out on me.


Any multitools I've used have done many things poorly. I'd like to
find one that does a few things well, with a special focus on the
pliers. This (along with my satisfaction with their other products)
is why i liked the looks of the Kershaw so much - the pliers were not
retractable and as such were supposedly much stiffer than your
average
multitool. They were also locking like vice grips, but that part I
can do without.


Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc. I'm looking for advice on a good multitool I can buy
at the store in '09, not what was a great tool back in the 80's when
tools were commonly made to be used.


So, if you carry something along these lines and are happy with it,
please tell me what and why.

/SNIP

Thanks, Scotty

Back in 1997 we were closing up a small union local and preparing to join
with a larger union.
Had some money to dispose of so I bought about 32 Schrade Tough Tools for
the members.
I also went to a local leather artist and had little patches made with the
union local #, it's logo and the dates it served the members.
These patches were sewn onto the leather belt pouches the tool came with.
I presented them with custom t-shirts at a goodbye party to the 2.5 dozen
current members plus a few past execs.
Everybody loved them except for a few of the girls. Can't please everyone.
http://www.botachtactical.com/schrade1.html

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

I am posting this from a bike group I go to.. Maybe you guys can make
a good suggestion and I can pass it along..

SNIP
OT, but I figure some of the regulars in this group are the type to
carry and use multitools. I'm looking to get one that has a solid
set
of pliers that don't shimmy side to side when twisting things, with
at
least the basics for additional tools (screwdrivers, knife, etc).
It'll be for boating use as well as on the dirt bike, so I don't
really like the designs that have separate drivers for the
screwdriver
part, since I could see losing one in rough seas, and wouldn't want
to be fiddling with getting out the proper bit and inserting it into
the tool while on the cabintop of a rocking boat.

The best thing I found hope for in my research was a Kershaw
multitool, but it's been discontinued. My everyday pocket knife is a
Kershaw 1550, and it's a great, great knife. Very well built, going
strong after years of tough use and conditions, and has a lifetime
warranty behind it if it ever does flake out on me.


Any multitools I've used have done many things poorly. I'd like to
find one that does a few things well, with a special focus on the
pliers. This (along with my satisfaction with their other products)
is why i liked the looks of the Kershaw so much - the pliers were not
retractable and as such were supposedly much stiffer than your
average
multitool. They were also locking like vice grips, but that part I
can do without.


Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc. I'm looking for advice on a good multitool I can buy
at the store in '09, not what was a great tool back in the 80's when
tools were commonly made to be used.


So, if you carry something along these lines and are happy with it,
please tell me what and why.

/SNIP

Thanks, Scotty

I don't like the newer Leatherman designs, but the original Leatherman was
a great tool, with great pliers. My Dutch friend's son, for whom I'd bought
one as a Christmas present years ago, broke one of the pliers jaws. When my
friend visited in October he brought it with him. I sent it to Leatherman,
and they promptly replaced it - no question, no nothing.

I've had and use my original for many years, and it's never let me down.

On Jan 6, 10:36*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:51:59 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:00 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Also, I know that leatherman and gerber made much better stuff 10+
years ago than they do today, with ownership changes and lowered
standards, etc

Excuse me?

Leatherman tools rule.

Isn't that a glorified Swiss Army knife?
Never met a multi-tool I liked except for a claw hammer.
A decent tool box doesn't take up much space.
If you're convinced send me that Leatherman and I'll take a look at it
before I get rid of it.
Already posted my address.

--Vic

The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room
for a toolbox, even a small one...

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:46:28 -0800 (PST),
wrote:


The guy I posted for will be using it to carry on a dirtbike.. no room
for a toolbox, even a small one...

Ya but...
Those multi-tools aren't exactly small either.
When I biked (pedal) I could carry what I needed.
Forgot what your friend wanted - pliers? - but there's
not many sizes to twist on any bike.
Though I don't use them, and I don't like them, a Crescent
wrench is better for cranking nuts than any pair of pliers.
Somebody already wrote about a multi-tool pliers breaking.
I can't imagine breaking a pliers, and I've cranked on a lot of them.
And you need a slip joint in any set of pliers to get a good bite on
more than one size thing.
I'm spitting in the wind here anywhere, because the multi-tool Army is
marching, and I'm just going to get run over. (-:

--Vic