On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:07:43 -0500, hk wrote:

Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
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Community organizing is leadership.

Sorry Harry. Community organizing is management.
Leadership is very different.

Eisboch


You think you can organize without strong leadership?

No way, Jose.

Give me $100 and I'll go organize twenty homeless folks to line up and
press any button I tell them.

That's 'buying', not 'leading'.

"Don White" wrote in message
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"Canuck57" wrote in message
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Unions are not about choice, be it a new worker being bullied or a
government. Take the Canadian NDP party, a union party. They offered $1
billion of tax payers money to the Bloc (Quebec party) if they got their
votes for a year or two to form a coalition coup d'etat. And as I and
other suspect, because they wanted tax payers cash for GM/Chrylser.
Saved by a quirk in the parlimentry system, but still possible.

Now that is meddling in Canadian politics. The NDP Layton should be
arrested for bribery of a MP representative.


Guess I missed that news release. Got any links?

Sure do. When reading, remember the NDP party is a unionist party, the ring
leader. Nice time for GM/Chryslers need for cash, and Buzz Hargrove was
very active in pushing the NDP on this very issue. Coalition of the
opposition:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...ion-talks.html

Fortunately Dion/Laytoon were not smart enough to get the Govenor General on
board and Harper used a method of quiet period to stave off this event.
Polls at the time indicated Canadians were about 69% opposed to the
coalition and supported the reigning government, which is an unheard of
support level in Canada. Poll results media.

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canad...25056-sun.html

When it coup d'etat failed, Dion Liberal stepped down at his parties
request.

Artical on one of the protests: (It was a very cold day, you know they were
convicted to show)

http://westernstandard.blogs.com/sho...ally-in-c.html

But the bribe is he

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/262957

So the unions push Layton/NDP to get a coalition. NDP bribe the Bloc for
votes, then Layton and Dion argue about who is PM. Union/GM say money --
Dion tries the coup d'etat.

Up to that time the Prime Minister was not pandering to GM & Chrysler on
partizan bailout support. In fact this war of politics and corruption is
still going on.

Real simple. Greedy corrupt pigs at the trough.

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:41:50 -0700, "Canuck57" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
.. .

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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Unions are not about choice, be it a new worker being bullied or a
government. Take the Canadian NDP party, a union party. They offered $1
billion of tax payers money to the Bloc (Quebec party) if they got their
votes for a year or two to form a coalition coup d'etat. And as I and
other suspect, because they wanted tax payers cash for GM/Chrylser.
Saved by a quirk in the parlimentry system, but still possible.

Now that is meddling in Canadian politics. The NDP Layton should be
arrested for bribery of a MP representative.


Guess I missed that news release. Got any links?

Sure do. When reading, remember the NDP party is a unionist party, the ring
leader. Nice time for GM/Chryslers need for cash, and Buzz Hargrove was
very active in pushing the NDP on this very issue. Coalition of the
opposition:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...ion-talks.html

Fortunately Dion/Laytoon were not smart enough to get the Govenor General on
board and Harper used a method of quiet period to stave off this event.
Polls at the time indicated Canadians were about 69% opposed to the
coalition and supported the reigning government, which is an unheard of
support level in Canada. Poll results media.

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canad...25056-sun.html

When it coup d'etat failed, Dion Liberal stepped down at his parties
request.

Artical on one of the protests: (It was a very cold day, you know they were
convicted to show)

http://westernstandard.blogs.com/sho...ally-in-c.html

But the bribe is he

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/262957

So the unions push Layton/NDP to get a coalition. NDP bribe the Bloc for
votes, then Layton and Dion argue about who is PM. Union/GM say money --
Dion tries the coup d'etat.

Up to that time the Prime Minister was not pandering to GM & Chrysler on
partizan bailout support. In fact this war of politics and corruption is
still going on.

Real simple. Greedy corrupt pigs at the trough.


Sorry you went to all that trouble. I already gave him all the links he
needed.

You did lay it out nicely however. Even a dolt could understand.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Canuck57" wrote in message
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Unions are not about choice, be it a new worker being bullied or a
government. Take the Canadian NDP party, a union party. They offered
$1 billion of tax payers money to the Bloc (Quebec party) if they got
their votes for a year or two to form a coalition coup d'etat. And as I
and other suspect, because they wanted tax payers cash for GM/Chrylser.
Saved by a quirk in the parlimentry system, but still possible.

Now that is meddling in Canadian politics. The NDP Layton should be
arrested for bribery of a MP representative.


Guess I missed that news release. Got any links?

snip..
But the bribe is he

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/262957

snip...

What ever happens, Quebec always gets more that it's fair share.
Seems to be a lot of speculating there...a lot of 'ifs' & 'maybes' by a
'provincial party official.

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On Jan 10, 9:40 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

m...



Community organizing is leadership.
Sorry Harry. Community organizing is management.
Leadership is very different.

Eisboch

Besides, training folks to commit voter fraud, which is all ACORN
does, is not leadership, it's criminal... So by Harrys standards, Joe
Kennedy and Al Capone were leaders too. Obama is surrounded by crims
and thugs, his "leadership" abilities were made up by the media
through hype and it will come crashing down as it already is..
Caroline Kennedy has as much leadership experience as Obama, they have
both written books....

Did they actually write the books themselves or did they have ghost
writers?

Don White wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
"hk" wrote in message
m...
U.S. Economy: Payrolls Post Biggest Annual Decline Since 1945

By Shobhana Chandra

Jan. 9 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. lost more jobs in 2008 than in any year
since 1945 as employers fired another 524,000 people in December,
indicating a free-fall in the economy just days before President-elect
Barack Obama takes office.

"Consumers are now going to get more and more scared at the prospect of
losing their job," said Nariman Behravesh, chief economist at IHS Global
Insight in Lexington, Massachusetts. Obama's proposed fiscal stimulus
"needs to be big, needs to be bold, needs to be swift. If they can do
something quickly we can limit the hemorrhage by mid-year."

The Labor Department reported that the nation lost 2.589 million jobs in
2008, just shy of the 2.75 million decline at the end of World War II.
The unemployment rate climbed more than economists forecast, to 7.2
percent in December, the highest level in almost 16 years.

Today's figures will intensify pressure on U.S. lawmakers to act quickly
on Obama's recovery program, which may exceed $775 billion and aims to
save or create 3 million jobs. They also underscore the urgency of the
Federal Reserve's $200 billion initiative to restart consumer financing
markets that's scheduled to begin next month.

- - -


Thank you for your leadership on these economic issues, President Bush.


Now if we could get the Feds from stop over spending and there would be
money for the economy to grow on, we could get out of this mess.

Mess?? You Californians better start paying your taxes before Arnold sells
off the lot of you.



That was just stupid.

"John H" wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:41:50 -0700, "Canuck57" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
. ..

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
Unions are not about choice, be it a new worker being bullied or a
government. Take the Canadian NDP party, a union party. They offered
$1
billion of tax payers money to the Bloc (Quebec party) if they got
their
votes for a year or two to form a coalition coup d'etat. And as I and
other suspect, because they wanted tax payers cash for GM/Chrylser.
Saved by a quirk in the parlimentry system, but still possible.

Now that is meddling in Canadian politics. The NDP Layton should be
arrested for bribery of a MP representative.


Guess I missed that news release. Got any links?

Sure do. When reading, remember the NDP party is a unionist party, the
ring
leader. Nice time for GM/Chryslers need for cash, and Buzz Hargrove was
very active in pushing the NDP on this very issue. Coalition of the
opposition:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...ion-talks.html

Fortunately Dion/Laytoon were not smart enough to get the Govenor General
on
board and Harper used a method of quiet period to stave off this event.
Polls at the time indicated Canadians were about 69% opposed to the
coalition and supported the reigning government, which is an unheard of
support level in Canada. Poll results media.

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canad...25056-sun.html

When it coup d'etat failed, Dion Liberal stepped down at his parties
request.

Artical on one of the protests: (It was a very cold day, you know they
were
convicted to show)

http://westernstandard.blogs.com/sho...ally-in-c.html

But the bribe is he

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/262957

So the unions push Layton/NDP to get a coalition. NDP bribe the Bloc for
votes, then Layton and Dion argue about who is PM. Union/GM say money --
Dion tries the coup d'etat.

Up to that time the Prime Minister was not pandering to GM & Chrysler on
partizan bailout support. In fact this war of politics and corruption is
still going on.

Real simple. Greedy corrupt pigs at the trough.


Sorry you went to all that trouble. I already gave him all the links he
needed.

You did lay it out nicely however. Even a dolt could understand.

LOL. But I wish our media would pick up more on this instead of the
insatiable appeasement rant. In Canada all the major media people are
unionized and to some degree dependant on government $$ so we never get it
straight.