Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
m...

I don't think that is the way out. We need massive infusion of
capital to get the economy moving, and corporate America ain't
spending it.

Why should they? All they will do is become penalized via taxes.

Eisboch


Well, then, let them liquidate themselves so others who want to run a
business can fill the voids.


You have to be kidding. Businesses survive, employ people, provide
health plans, and grow because they can make a profit. Take that
incentive away and you get what we have now.

Eisboch


It isn't taxes that it keeping corporations from making money. It is a
crapped out economy and bad management.

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:10:25 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
om...
Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
m...

I don't think that is the way out. We need massive infusion of capital
to get the economy moving, and corporate America ain't spending it.

Why should they? All they will do is become penalized via taxes.

Eisboch


Well, then, let them liquidate themselves so others who want to run a
business can fill the voids.


You have to be kidding. Businesses survive, employ people, provide health
plans, and grow because they can make a profit. Take that incentive away
and you get what we have now.

Eisboch

That makes good sense unless your goal is for the government to run the
corporations.

"Eisboch" wrote in message
news

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...



Now if we could get the Feds from stop over spending and there would be
money for the economy to grow on, we could get out of this mess.



The problem is that nobody knows for sure how to fix this. They are using
a shot gun approach, hoping they hit something.

I am totally convinced that the current panic reaction is going to do
nothing but further cause more problems. It's time for people to stop
being so idealistic and become realistic.

Eisboch


Anything to do with cleaning horsies teeth?

"John H" wrote in message
...

That makes good sense unless your goal is for the government to run the
corporations.

I visited China (PRC) back in 1986 when they were first experimenting with
the concepts of foreign investments and a subtle shift towards capitalism.

It was an amazing exposure to life under an extreme socialist society.
(Communism)

The average Chinese factory worker had to bow to and worship his employer
who in turn worshiped his provincial mayor for the opportunity to make a
living for his family.

It was sad. And it hasn't changed.

And, it where this country is heading.

Eisboch

On Jan 9, 3:10*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

m...

Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
news:2_qdnco4o5RbOPrUnZ2dnUVZ_rfinZ2d@earthlink. com...

I don't think that is the way out. We need massive infusion of capital
to get the economy moving, and corporate America ain't spending it.

Why should they? * All they will do is become penalized via taxes.

Eisboch

Well, then, let them liquidate themselves so others who want to run a
business can fill the voids.

You have to be kidding. *Businesses survive, employ people, provide health
plans, and grow because they can make a profit. * Take that incentive away
and you get what we have now.

Eisboch

Harry doesn't understand the concept that the taxes have to be paid
for by someone. That someone is the end consumer. Let's take building
design. Let's say it's a Twinky factory. I have to pay taxes so I
charge the contractor more for my services. The contractor charges
Twinky Corp. more for the design/build of the facility. Harry thinks
that Twinky Corp will eat the extra cost, and they won't, they'll pass
it on to Mr. Consumer, no matter if he's rich, or dirt poor and just
wants a Twinky. Seems trivial, but not in the large scheme of things.
It'll happen over and over again to Twinky Corp. with the equipment
manufacturers, the raw material suppliers, everybody. And it ALL gets
to be paid for by the little old lady on SSI that lives on the corner
et al.

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:10:25 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
om...
Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
m...

I don't think that is the way out. We need massive infusion of capital
to get the economy moving, and corporate America ain't spending it.

Why should they? All they will do is become penalized via taxes.

Eisboch


Well, then, let them liquidate themselves so others who want to run a
business can fill the voids.

You have to be kidding. Businesses survive, employ people, provide health
plans, and grow because they can make a profit. Take that incentive away
and you get what we have now.

Do you know how many people are going to be out of work because of
this little gem?

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpsia.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvKFFvw2Nds
--

Happy Holidays and Merry Whatever It Is
That ****es Liberals Off.

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:45:21 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
om...



Now if we could get the Feds from stop over spending and there would be
money for the economy to grow on, we could get out of this mess.

The problem is that nobody knows for sure how to fix this. They are using a
shot gun approach, hoping they hit something.

I am totally convinced that the current panic reaction is going to do
nothing but further cause more problems. It's time for people to stop
being so idealistic and become realistic.

And cut taxes - dramatically.

Including income tax on Social Security payments.

--

Time flies when you are sick and psychotic.

On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:18:10 GMT, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:10:25 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
news:gIidnfkxkPBnMPrUnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@earthlink. com...
Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
m...

I don't think that is the way out. We need massive infusion of capital
to get the economy moving, and corporate America ain't spending it.

Why should they? All they will do is become penalized via taxes.

Eisboch


Well, then, let them liquidate themselves so others who want to run a
business can fill the voids.

You have to be kidding. Businesses survive, employ people, provide health
plans, and grow because they can make a profit. Take that incentive away
and you get what we have now.

Do you know how many people are going to be out of work because of
this little gem?

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpsia.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvKFFvw2Nds

Here's a really good...erm...explanation of the act.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW9nxeyq1EQ

--

"I intend to live forever. So far, so good."

Steven Wright

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...

That makes good sense unless your goal is for the government to run the
corporations.

I visited China (PRC) back in 1986 when they were first experimenting with
the concepts of foreign investments and a subtle shift towards capitalism.

It was an amazing exposure to life under an extreme socialist society.
(Communism)

The average Chinese factory worker had to bow to and worship his employer
who in turn worshiped his provincial mayor for the opportunity to make a
living for his family.

It was sad. And it hasn't changed.

And, it where this country is heading.

Eisboch


Every American and Canadian should support the union/labour movement.
If not for themselves, for their children & grandchildren.

"Don White" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...

That makes good sense unless your goal is for the government to run the
corporations.

I visited China (PRC) back in 1986 when they were first experimenting
with the concepts of foreign investments and a subtle shift towards
capitalism.

It was an amazing exposure to life under an extreme socialist society.
(Communism)

The average Chinese factory worker had to bow to and worship his employer
who in turn worshiped his provincial mayor for the opportunity to make a
living for his family.

It was sad. And it hasn't changed.

And, it where this country is heading.

Eisboch


Every American and Canadian should support the union/labour movement.
If not for themselves, for their children & grandchildren.
\

The Chinese Government *is* the ultimate union labor establishment. Are you
sure that's what you want?

Eisboch