Well, they both work very well, and as far as I am concerned, it is a
half dozen of one and six of the other.

The Apple Mac OS is a little more to my liking, now that I am sort of
used to it, but there are still areas where I think the Apple system is
just too cute. Also, there is some software, not much of it, that is
important to me and only runs on a PC and may not like running under an
emulator.

So, after I got my Mac, I installed in turn the two major PC emulator
suites that run on a Mac as virtual machines. Both work OK, and I tended
to like VMware Fusion a bit better. But while in emulator mode, there
were still one or two programs that simply would not work on an emulated
PC.

Last week, a buddy who runs the same software suggested I dump the
emulators and run Apple's Boot Camp. I did. Now, I boot up my Mac in
either Apple Mac OS or MS Vista, and while in VISTA everything I need to
work works just fine. Eureka, as Sarah Palin's great-great grandfather,
Thomas Edison, used to exclaim.

There's no real downside to Boot Camp that I have noticed so far. I know
there are some PC few apps that may cause it trouble, but I am not
running any. All the hardware works fine. And to reboot in Vista takes
no longer than starting up one of the emulators and then XP or VISTA.
Shutting down VISTA in Boot Camp is faster than shutting down the emulators.

VISTA runs like greased lightning in Boot Camp. Got a 5.+ in the built
in ratings.

So, if you are thinking of moving to a Mac and have PC software you
need, the chances are it will run ok in Windows under Boot Camp. The
Apple site has knowledge base articles on what software is troublesome.

Sometime this month, my new Mac desktop will be up and running and my
last PC desktop will be running server software.

hk wrote:

No, we are not interested in your opinion on computers, politics, sex
with teenagers or anything else you may have to offer.

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:12:28 -0500, hk wrote:

Well, they both work very well, and as far as I am concerned, it is a
half dozen of one and six of the other.

The Apple Mac OS is a little more to my liking, now that I am sort of
used to it, but there are still areas where I think the Apple system is
just too cute. Also, there is some software, not much of it, that is
important to me and only runs on a PC and may not like running under an
emulator.

So, after I got my Mac, I installed in turn the two major PC emulator
suites that run on a Mac as virtual machines. Both work OK, and I tended
to like VMware Fusion a bit better. But while in emulator mode, there
were still one or two programs that simply would not work on an emulated
PC.

Last week, a buddy who runs the same software suggested I dump the
emulators and run Apple's Boot Camp. I did. Now, I boot up my Mac in
either Apple Mac OS or MS Vista, and while in VISTA everything I need to
work works just fine. Eureka, as Sarah Palin's great-great grandfather,
Thomas Edison, used to exclaim.

There's no real downside to Boot Camp that I have noticed so far. I know
there are some PC few apps that may cause it trouble, but I am not
running any. All the hardware works fine. And to reboot in Vista takes
no longer than starting up one of the emulators and then XP or VISTA.
Shutting down VISTA in Boot Camp is faster than shutting down the emulators.

VISTA runs like greased lightning in Boot Camp. Got a 5.+ in the built
in ratings.

So, if you are thinking of moving to a Mac and have PC software you
need, the chances are it will run ok in Windows under Boot Camp. The
Apple site has knowledge base articles on what software is troublesome.

Sometime this month, my new Mac desktop will be up and running and my
last PC desktop will be running server software.

I have an older 20" G5 the kids use so can't use Boot Camp. Wish I
could. Nothing but PCs in the rest of the house.

My first computer was a "Fat" Mac in 1984, one floppy drive, no HD.
Several months later I upgraded to the external floppy drive. It's
incredible what's happened in 25 years.

A friend recently showed me the Mac OS running on his pc via Ubuntu.
Very cool.

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:40:48 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:12:28 -0500, hk wrote:

Well, they both work very well, and as far as I am concerned, it is a
half dozen of one and six of the other.

The Apple Mac OS is a little more to my liking, now that I am sort of
used to it, but there are still areas where I think the Apple system is
just too cute. Also, there is some software, not much of it, that is
important to me and only runs on a PC and may not like running under an
emulator.

So, after I got my Mac, I installed in turn the two major PC emulator
suites that run on a Mac as virtual machines. Both work OK, and I tended
to like VMware Fusion a bit better. But while in emulator mode, there
were still one or two programs that simply would not work on an emulated
PC.

Last week, a buddy who runs the same software suggested I dump the
emulators and run Apple's Boot Camp. I did. Now, I boot up my Mac in
either Apple Mac OS or MS Vista, and while in VISTA everything I need to
work works just fine. Eureka, as Sarah Palin's great-great grandfather,
Thomas Edison, used to exclaim.

There's no real downside to Boot Camp that I have noticed so far. I know
there are some PC few apps that may cause it trouble, but I am not
running any. All the hardware works fine. And to reboot in Vista takes
no longer than starting up one of the emulators and then XP or VISTA.
Shutting down VISTA in Boot Camp is faster than shutting down the emulators.

VISTA runs like greased lightning in Boot Camp. Got a 5.+ in the built
in ratings.

So, if you are thinking of moving to a Mac and have PC software you
need, the chances are it will run ok in Windows under Boot Camp. The
Apple site has knowledge base articles on what software is troublesome.

Sometime this month, my new Mac desktop will be up and running and my
last PC desktop will be running server software.

I have an older 20" G5 the kids use so can't use Boot Camp. Wish I
could. Nothing but PCs in the rest of the house.

My first computer was a "Fat" Mac in 1984, one floppy drive, no HD.
Several months later I upgraded to the external floppy drive. It's
incredible what's happened in 25 years.

A friend recently showed me the Mac OS running on his pc via Ubuntu.
Very cool.

Just did some research and I guess it wasn't hosting the Mac OS but
had uploaded a series of files to make linux look like the Mac
interface. I'm guessing since Mac apps are built to run on a unix
kernal, that they'd likely behave under linux but I've not
experimented.

That's the sort of thing that'll have to wait for retirement. Maybe
that'll be my lint.

"jps" wrote in message
...

Just did some research and I guess it wasn't hosting the Mac OS but
had uploaded a series of files to make linux look like the Mac
interface. I'm guessing since Mac apps are built to run on a unix
kernal, that they'd likely behave under linux but I've not
experimented.

That's the sort of thing that'll have to wait for retirement. Maybe
that'll be my lint.



Don't count on it. If you are like many, here's the phases of retirement
adjustments.

Phase I

Guilt. You wake up every morning at the same time as when you were working
60-80 hrs a week and after performing the three "S"'so , you realize you
have nowhere to go. You start contacting your former associates to make
sure everything at the company is ok. As time goes on and you realize the
company is surviving fine without you, another sense of guilt starts to
creep in. What's your purpose now?

For me, this phase lasted the better part of 3 years.


Phase II

You start to relax a bit. The gain level of working and/or running your
business has been turned down considerably. You start to realize that
there's more to life than being consumed with a business that frankly was
turning into re-runs of past experiences. You start to become out of date
with respect to current technology and you really don't care. Your hair, if
you have any, gets longer.

Occasionally new business ideas enter your head but are quickly squashed
when you start thinking of all the start-up issues involved. You start
exploring and doing things that you never had time to do before.


Phase III

You discover the properties of clothes dryer lint.

Eisboch

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:20:25 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .

Just did some research and I guess it wasn't hosting the Mac OS but
had uploaded a series of files to make linux look like the Mac
interface. I'm guessing since Mac apps are built to run on a unix
kernal, that they'd likely behave under linux but I've not
experimented.

That's the sort of thing that'll have to wait for retirement. Maybe
that'll be my lint.



Don't count on it. If you are like many, here's the phases of retirement
adjustments.

Phase I

Guilt. You wake up every morning at the same time as when you were working
60-80 hrs a week and after performing the three "S"'so , you realize you
have nowhere to go. You start contacting your former associates to make
sure everything at the company is ok. As time goes on and you realize the
company is surviving fine without you, another sense of guilt starts to
creep in. What's your purpose now?

For me, this phase lasted the better part of 3 years.


Phase II

You start to relax a bit. The gain level of working and/or running your
business has been turned down considerably. You start to realize that
there's more to life than being consumed with a business that frankly was
turning into re-runs of past experiences. You start to become out of date
with respect to current technology and you really don't care. Your hair, if
you have any, gets longer.

Occasionally new business ideas enter your head but are quickly squashed
when you start thinking of all the start-up issues involved. You start
exploring and doing things that you never had time to do before.


Phase III

You discover the properties of clothes dryer lint.

Eisboch

Makes sense. Phase III made me laugh. The upside down hockey stick
graph.

I'll be lucky to retire. As it stands right now, the plan is to go
directly from retirement to assisted living.

You might consider mentoring guys like me who are making the mistakes
you learned to avoid. May keep that graph from turning south too
quickly and help some of those entrepreneurs who our country will
depend on for new jobs and tax revenue.

Bush 41's estimate of a thousand points of light needs to be shifted
upwards by an order of magnitude.

jps wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:12:28 -0500, hk wrote:

Well, they both work very well, and as far as I am concerned, it is a
half dozen of one and six of the other.

The Apple Mac OS is a little more to my liking, now that I am sort of
used to it, but there are still areas where I think the Apple system is
just too cute. Also, there is some software, not much of it, that is
important to me and only runs on a PC and may not like running under an
emulator.

So, after I got my Mac, I installed in turn the two major PC emulator
suites that run on a Mac as virtual machines. Both work OK, and I tended
to like VMware Fusion a bit better. But while in emulator mode, there
were still one or two programs that simply would not work on an emulated
PC.

Last week, a buddy who runs the same software suggested I dump the
emulators and run Apple's Boot Camp. I did. Now, I boot up my Mac in
either Apple Mac OS or MS Vista, and while in VISTA everything I need to
work works just fine. Eureka, as Sarah Palin's great-great grandfather,
Thomas Edison, used to exclaim.

There's no real downside to Boot Camp that I have noticed so far. I know
there are some PC few apps that may cause it trouble, but I am not
running any. All the hardware works fine. And to reboot in Vista takes
no longer than starting up one of the emulators and then XP or VISTA.
Shutting down VISTA in Boot Camp is faster than shutting down the emulators.

VISTA runs like greased lightning in Boot Camp. Got a 5.+ in the built
in ratings.

So, if you are thinking of moving to a Mac and have PC software you
need, the chances are it will run ok in Windows under Boot Camp. The
Apple site has knowledge base articles on what software is troublesome.

Sometime this month, my new Mac desktop will be up and running and my
last PC desktop will be running server software.

I have an older 20" G5 the kids use so can't use Boot Camp. Wish I
could. Nothing but PCs in the rest of the house.

My first computer was a "Fat" Mac in 1984, one floppy drive, no HD.
Several months later I upgraded to the external floppy drive. It's
incredible what's happened in 25 years.

A friend recently showed me the Mac OS running on his pc via Ubuntu.
Very cool.

You sure it was the Mac OS and not a tricked up Linux "face"?

I've got a half dozen apps that run well on PCs but so far as I can tell
have no real Mac alternatives. So, that's why I installed a fresh
version of VISTA on my Mac. When I am running VISTA under Boot Camp, it
is (or seems as it is) exactly like running VISTA alone. There are a
couple of keyboard combos that are different, but everything else is
nominal, so far.

jps wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:20:25 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


Phase I

Guilt. You wake up every morning at the same time as when you were working
60-80 hrs a week and after performing the three "S"'so , you realize you
have nowhere to go. You start contacting your former associates to make
sure everything at the company is ok. As time goes on and you realize the
company is surviving fine without you, another sense of guilt starts to
creep in. What's your purpose now?

You might consider mentoring guys like me who are making the mistakes
you learned to avoid. May keep that graph from turning south too
quickly and help some of those entrepreneurs who our country will
depend on for new jobs and tax revenue.

SBAs have volunteers that do just what you are suggesting. There is
pleanty of private money around to get small companies on their feet and
keep them running. Careful investing by successful entrepreneurs will
help small and large businesses more than any mismanaged government
program. You guys keep talkng. I think you are heading in the right
direction.

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:02:02 -0800, jps wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:20:25 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
. ..

Just did some research and I guess it wasn't hosting the Mac OS but
had uploaded a series of files to make linux look like the Mac
interface. I'm guessing since Mac apps are built to run on a unix
kernal, that they'd likely behave under linux but I've not
experimented.

That's the sort of thing that'll have to wait for retirement. Maybe
that'll be my lint.



Don't count on it. If you are like many, here's the phases of retirement
adjustments.

Phase I

Guilt. You wake up every morning at the same time as when you were working
60-80 hrs a week and after performing the three "S"'so , you realize you
have nowhere to go. You start contacting your former associates to make
sure everything at the company is ok. As time goes on and you realize the
company is surviving fine without you, another sense of guilt starts to
creep in. What's your purpose now?

For me, this phase lasted the better part of 3 years.


Phase II

You start to relax a bit. The gain level of working and/or running your
business has been turned down considerably. You start to realize that
there's more to life than being consumed with a business that frankly was
turning into re-runs of past experiences. You start to become out of date
with respect to current technology and you really don't care. Your hair, if
you have any, gets longer.

Occasionally new business ideas enter your head but are quickly squashed
when you start thinking of all the start-up issues involved. You start
exploring and doing things that you never had time to do before.


Phase III

You discover the properties of clothes dryer lint.

Eisboch

Makes sense. Phase III made me laugh. The upside down hockey stick
graph.

I'll be lucky to retire. As it stands right now, the plan is to go
directly from retirement to assisted living.

You might consider mentoring guys like me who are making the mistakes
you learned to avoid. May keep that graph from turning south too
quickly and help some of those entrepreneurs who our country will
depend on for new jobs and tax revenue.

Bush 41's estimate of a thousand points of light needs to be shifted
upwards by an order of magnitude.

From looking at the times of your posts, I'd think both you and Eisboch are
suited to be night watchmen somewhere!

I went through I and II like Eisboch. Fishing became a challenge for a few
years, but then my neighbor got me hooked on golf.

Find something to do that's a challenge. That's my advice.

Reading Harry's stuff without puking is challenging.

John H wrote:


Reading Harry's stuff without puking is challenging.

Eisboch suggests taking a few Tums.

I suggest just skimming over his posts to see which lie he is
regurgitating.
Then add the appropriate helpful comment.