On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:33:45 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Jan 19, 7:25*am, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
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If it weren't for the French, we might well have lost the
Revolutionary War.

Just goes to show what could happen to us.

Eisboch

We might have remained British?

I really do not understand the undercurrent of hatred for the French. I
used to think it was because the French and the French government were
arrogant, but in the last eight years, we've certain surpassed them in
that regard.



Well, back in the 50's, France declaring their ww2 war debts to the
US as "null and void"

But i doubt if that has anything to do with it....

Hee, hee. Tolja!
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John H

On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:24:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:


Well, maybe a few Frenchmen....

If it weren't for the French, we might well have lost the Revolutionary
War.

And if it hadn't been for the French, we probably wouldn't have been
involved in the European theater's of ww1 and ww2

And if it hadn't been for the submarine bases in France, the war may have
been over much more quickly.
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John H

"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
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If it weren't for the French, we might well have lost the Revolutionary
War.

Just goes to show what could happen to us.

Eisboch



We might have remained British?

I really do not understand the undercurrent of hatred for the French.
It's the whole "freedom fries" thing. They didn't back the Bush
administration in the made for Halliburton war.

mmc wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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If it weren't for the French, we might well have lost the Revolutionary
War.
Just goes to show what could happen to us.

Eisboch


We might have remained British?

I really do not understand the undercurrent of hatred for the French.
It's the whole "freedom fries" thing. They didn't back the Bush
administration in the made for Halliburton war.



I know that is part of it, but it seems to me there is much more.

Ahhh...Halliburton...the perfect symbol of corporate America, except
didn't I read that Halliburton moved its headquarters offshore to avoid
legal liabilities and taxes?

On Jan 19, 10:13*am, "mmc" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

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Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
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If it weren't for the French, we might well have lost the Revolutionary
War.

Just goes to show what could happen to us.

Eisboch

We might have remained British?

I really do not understand the undercurrent of hatred for the French.

It's the whole "freedom fries" thing. They didn't back the Bush
administration in the made for Halliburton war.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Clinton used Haliburton (no bids) in the Balkans.. Why, for the same
reason Bush did, nobody else does what they do. Facts override talking
points every time. For Democrats to harp on Haliburton is
intellectually dishonest.. Who's a thunk

On Jan 19, 10:38*am, wrote:
On Jan 19, 10:13*am, "mmc" wrote:





"hk" wrote in message

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Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
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If it weren't for the French, we might well have lost the Revolutionary
War.

Just goes to show what could happen to us.

Eisboch

We might have remained British?

I really do not understand the undercurrent of hatred for the French.

It's the whole "freedom fries" thing. They didn't back the Bush
administration in the made for Halliburton war.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Clinton used Haliburton (no bids) in the Balkans.. Why, for the same
reason Bush did, nobody else does what they do. Facts override talking
points every time. For Democrats to harp on Haliburton is
intellectually dishonest.. Who's a thunk- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just to clarify, Clinton gave no bid contracts to Halliburton to
CONTINUE work in the Balkans. It didn't make sense to hire another
firm when they were already there. BUT, the fact remains, 98% of
Halliburton's political contributions goes to Republicans, Dick Cheney
benefits directly from Halliburton, and there are billions of dollars
of in either unsupported costs or questionable cost overrides.

On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:25:49 -0500, hk wrote:

mmc wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...

If it weren't for the French, we might well have lost the Revolutionary
War.
Just goes to show what could happen to us.

Eisboch


We might have remained British?

I really do not understand the undercurrent of hatred for the French.
It's the whole "freedom fries" thing. They didn't back the Bush
administration in the made for Halliburton war.



I know that is part of it, but it seems to me there is much more.

Goes back to DeGaulle. There was an American undercurrent of
Franco-phobia then when he didn't properly kiss American ass.
Johnny Carson did a bit where he had the "French Ambassador"
as a guest. Carson seriously asked the Ambassador some questions
about tense relations between the countries and the Ambassador
answered in a haughty, Gaullist tone, with an annoying French accent.
Carson said something like, "Speaking as an American, I suppose my
only reaction is this." And slammed the guy in the face with a cream
pie.
It was so well done the audience gasped in shock. Me too.
Then the Frenchy stood up, shook hands with Carson and exited stage
right to uproarious laughter.
One of my favorite Carson bits, after Ed Ames and the hatchet.
Happened to see both of them live.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:25:49 -0500, hk wrote:

mmc wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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If it weren't for the French, we might well have lost the Revolutionary
War.
Just goes to show what could happen to us.

Eisboch

We might have remained British?

I really do not understand the undercurrent of hatred for the French.
It's the whole "freedom fries" thing. They didn't back the Bush
administration in the made for Halliburton war.


I know that is part of it, but it seems to me there is much more.

Goes back to DeGaulle. There was an American undercurrent of
Franco-phobia then when he didn't properly kiss American ass.
Johnny Carson did a bit where he had the "French Ambassador"
as a guest. Carson seriously asked the Ambassador some questions
about tense relations between the countries and the Ambassador
answered in a haughty, Gaullist tone, with an annoying French accent.
Carson said something like, "Speaking as an American, I suppose my
only reaction is this." And slammed the guy in the face with a cream
pie.
It was so well done the audience gasped in shock. Me too.
Then the Frenchy stood up, shook hands with Carson and exited stage
right to uproarious laughter.
One of my favorite Carson bits, after Ed Ames and the hatchet.
Happened to see both of them live.

--Vic



Me, too. Carson was the best. No one who followed is even close. Too bad
he smoked himself to death.

On Jan 19, 9:13*am, "mmc" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

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Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
...

If it weren't for the French, we might well have lost the Revolutionary
War.

Just goes to show what could happen to us.

Eisboch

We might have remained British?

I really do not understand the undercurrent of hatred for the French.

It's the whole "freedom fries" thing. They didn't back the Bush
administration in the made for Halliburton war.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

When cleaning up Desert Storm, they wouldn'tallow us to use their air
space then, either. Odd they sure benefited from those oil contracts
though...

On Jan 19, 10:07*am, wrote:
On Jan 19, 10:38*am, wrote:





On Jan 19, 10:13*am, "mmc" wrote:

"hk" wrote in message

...

Eisboch wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
...

If it weren't for the French, we might well have lost the Revolutionary
War.

Just goes to show what could happen to us.

Eisboch

We might have remained British?

I really do not understand the undercurrent of hatred for the French.

It's the whole "freedom fries" thing. They didn't back the Bush
administration in the made for Halliburton war.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Clinton used Haliburton (no bids) in the Balkans.. Why, for the same
reason Bush did, nobody else does what they do. Facts override talking
points every time. For Democrats to harp on Haliburton is
intellectually dishonest.. Who's a thunk- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just to clarify, Clinton gave no bid contracts to Halliburton to
CONTINUE work in the Balkans. It didn't make sense to hire another
firm when they were already there. BUT, the fact remains, 98% of
Halliburton's political contributions goes to Republicans, Dick Cheney
benefits directly from Halliburton, and there are billions of dollars
of in either unsupported costs or questionable cost overrides.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Of course we used Halliburton. But I suppose they could have put the
job up for bids and maybe got Burger King to do the various jobs.


LOL

Old M-16 saying:

"If it's Mattel, It's swell!"