On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:14:17 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:52:22 -0500, HK wrote:

I use Aperture when I need to.

One of the local pros has Aperture 2 and I had a chance to see it in
action a couple of weeks ago.

It's not bad, but I was surprised at how similar to Paint Shop Pro it
was.

It's also Mac centric - you have to have a mind that works in Mac with
respect to the work flow.

And I'll be honest - I've never understood the Mac way of doing
things.


I'm not familiar with paint shop pro, but I will take your word for the
similarities.

In 2001, when I started a new consulting contract with a client, the
client provided a workstation for me with a new Apple Mac laptop. For
whatever reasons, but probably nearly 20 years of working with PCs, I
simply could not fathom the damned thing. Just about everything on it
seem counter intuitive.

Sometime after that I started hanging out at the Mac store at the mall
when my wife dragged me along on shopping trips. I really got hooked on
Mac ergonomics and slowly...very slowly...I started learning a little
bit about a couple of Mac applications that were relevant for me.

After so many years of hanging out at the Apple stores, one of the
managers finally said, Hey...you ever gonna buy one? I bit the bullet
and sold off my IBM Thinkpad T23, a superior laptop for its time, and
bought an Apple Mac Pro about a year ago.

Well, I love the machine now and in the next couple of weeks, I will be
buying an Apple desktop.

You are right about the Mac way, though...a lot of it is still odd to me.

Meanwhile, I have all sorts of PC stuff around to give away or sell...a
couple of DVD writing drives, one a lightscribe, 6 gigs of high speed
ram, a nice video card, a recent pentium CPU, a new internal dial up
modem...

What I am keeping from the PC world includes my HP mediasmart server,
which runs under Windows Server 2003, and which I use to backup
everything and to distribute movies and music, and the other server I am
building out of my last desktop PC.

Mrs. Wave has a Mac laptop and one of the new Mac Pro something or
other - Quad core I think - standby.

Just looked in her office - it's a Mac Pro Quad Core she got for her
presentations and stuff she does for school.

I've never used it - I'm stuck in PC land forever. :)

--

I dont know what your problem is, but I'll bet
its hard to pronounce.

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:14:17 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:52:22 -0500, HK wrote:

I use Aperture when I need to.
One of the local pros has Aperture 2 and I had a chance to see it in
action a couple of weeks ago.

It's not bad, but I was surprised at how similar to Paint Shop Pro it
was.

It's also Mac centric - you have to have a mind that works in Mac with
respect to the work flow.

And I'll be honest - I've never understood the Mac way of doing
things.

I'm not familiar with paint shop pro, but I will take your word for the
similarities.

In 2001, when I started a new consulting contract with a client, the
client provided a workstation for me with a new Apple Mac laptop. For
whatever reasons, but probably nearly 20 years of working with PCs, I
simply could not fathom the damned thing. Just about everything on it
seem counter intuitive.

Sometime after that I started hanging out at the Mac store at the mall
when my wife dragged me along on shopping trips. I really got hooked on
Mac ergonomics and slowly...very slowly...I started learning a little
bit about a couple of Mac applications that were relevant for me.

After so many years of hanging out at the Apple stores, one of the
managers finally said, Hey...you ever gonna buy one? I bit the bullet
and sold off my IBM Thinkpad T23, a superior laptop for its time, and
bought an Apple Mac Pro about a year ago.

Well, I love the machine now and in the next couple of weeks, I will be
buying an Apple desktop.

You are right about the Mac way, though...a lot of it is still odd to me.

Meanwhile, I have all sorts of PC stuff around to give away or sell...a
couple of DVD writing drives, one a lightscribe, 6 gigs of high speed
ram, a nice video card, a recent pentium CPU, a new internal dial up
modem...

What I am keeping from the PC world includes my HP mediasmart server,
which runs under Windows Server 2003, and which I use to backup
everything and to distribute movies and music, and the other server I am
building out of my last desktop PC.

Mrs. Wave has a Mac laptop and one of the new Mac Pro something or
other - Quad core I think - standby.

Just looked in her office - it's a Mac Pro Quad Core she got for her
presentations and stuff she does for school.

I've never used it - I'm stuck in PC land forever. :)



She must be doing some heavy duty presentations...a Mac Pro Quad Core is
a very very fast computer.

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:14:55 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:14:17 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:52:22 -0500, HK wrote:

I use Aperture when I need to.
One of the local pros has Aperture 2 and I had a chance to see it in
action a couple of weeks ago.

It's not bad, but I was surprised at how similar to Paint Shop Pro it
was.

It's also Mac centric - you have to have a mind that works in Mac with
respect to the work flow.

And I'll be honest - I've never understood the Mac way of doing
things.

I'm not familiar with paint shop pro, but I will take your word for the
similarities.

In 2001, when I started a new consulting contract with a client, the
client provided a workstation for me with a new Apple Mac laptop. For
whatever reasons, but probably nearly 20 years of working with PCs, I
simply could not fathom the damned thing. Just about everything on it
seem counter intuitive.

Sometime after that I started hanging out at the Mac store at the mall
when my wife dragged me along on shopping trips. I really got hooked on
Mac ergonomics and slowly...very slowly...I started learning a little
bit about a couple of Mac applications that were relevant for me.

After so many years of hanging out at the Apple stores, one of the
managers finally said, Hey...you ever gonna buy one? I bit the bullet
and sold off my IBM Thinkpad T23, a superior laptop for its time, and
bought an Apple Mac Pro about a year ago.

Well, I love the machine now and in the next couple of weeks, I will be
buying an Apple desktop.

You are right about the Mac way, though...a lot of it is still odd to me.

Meanwhile, I have all sorts of PC stuff around to give away or sell...a
couple of DVD writing drives, one a lightscribe, 6 gigs of high speed
ram, a nice video card, a recent pentium CPU, a new internal dial up
modem...

What I am keeping from the PC world includes my HP mediasmart server,
which runs under Windows Server 2003, and which I use to backup
everything and to distribute movies and music, and the other server I am
building out of my last desktop PC.

Mrs. Wave has a Mac laptop and one of the new Mac Pro something or
other - Quad core I think - standby.

Just looked in her office - it's a Mac Pro Quad Core she got for her
presentations and stuff she does for school.

I've never used it - I'm stuck in PC land forever. :)

She must be doing some heavy duty presentations...a Mac Pro Quad Core is
a very very fast computer.

A lot of video and slides and stuff like that. I don't pretend to
understand what she does - ony that she's very good at it.

She also uses it for school work - as something of a specialist
working with the less talented middle schoolers, she likes to keep
things interesting for the kids.

I dont' use the thing - I don't go near it, use it, turn it on or off
- it's all hers. :)

--

"Far better it is to dare mighty things,
to win glorious triumphs even though
checkered by failure, than to rank with
those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor
suffer much because they live in the gray
twilight that knows neither victory nor
defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt

On Jan 22, 8:11*am, Jim749293432 wrote:
HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:11:56 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Cohen The Barbarian wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:40:54 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/as...p.arrest/index...

Oh come on - that wasn't nice.

This is the era of hope and change. *Like the bishop said yesterday -
"Yellow is mellow".

Er...

Never mind.
I know, you are correct. *Harry hasn't been away from his computer
long enough to go anywhere. *Sorry.

Hey - look at it this way - at least he was in one place - in a
quantum world, he could be anywhere and everywhere at the same time.

Just think, as soon as he figures out how to use Photoshop, we'll be
seeing a picture of him meeting Obama.

Only makes sense - as soon as I figure out how to do it, I'm going to
have a picture of me meeting Obama. *:)

--

"Never fight an inanimate object."

P.J. O'Rourke

Aarrgh. I'd love to meet Obama. Just a handshake would be enough for me..

Not much chance of me learning photoshop. I don't have it on any of my
computers, and I have no interest in getting it or learning it. If I
wanted to produce abstract art, I'd get some brushes, canvas, and
paints. Just about any photo software package will attend to the bit of
post processing of photos I do. I use Aperture when I need to. Those
sneaky folks at the Apple store run free or almost free classes for
their applications, and darned if they didn't hook me with that and the
free tech support when I need it from English-speaking locals.

In fact, last time I was at the store, I actually had an "appointment"
for a consult, the schedule was running late, so I walked across the
mall corridor for a coffee and when I came back it was my turn. No
endless meandering through automated telephone systems.

Here's a tip that might save you a trip to the mall for a consult. When
the screen won't light up, check the power cord.
Asshole- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

They only give private consultation for Harry, apparently. I'll wait
for Harry to reply with vulgar insults and name calling before I tell
you how I know this.......

On Jan 22, 7:14*am, HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:52:22 -0500, HK wrote:

I use Aperture when I need to.

One of the local pros has Aperture 2 and I had a chance to see it in
action a couple of weeks ago.

It's not bad, but I was surprised at how similar to Paint Shop Pro it
was.

It's also Mac centric - you have to have a mind that works in Mac with
respect to the work flow.

And I'll be honest - I've never understood the Mac way of doing
things.

I'm not familiar with paint shop pro, but I will take your word for the
similarities.

In 2001, when I started a new consulting contract with a client, the
client provided a workstation for me with a new Apple Mac laptop. For
whatever reasons, but probably nearly 20 years of working with PCs, I
simply could not fathom the damned thing. Just about everything on it
seem counter intuitive.

Sometime after that I started hanging out at the Mac store at the mall
when my wife dragged me along on shopping trips. I really got hooked on
Mac ergonomics and slowly...very slowly...I started learning a little
bit about a couple of Mac applications that were relevant for me.

After so many years of hanging out at the Apple stores, one of the
managers finally said, Hey...you ever gonna buy one? I bit the bullet
and sold off my IBM Thinkpad T23, a superior laptop for its time, and
bought an Apple Mac Pro about a year ago.

Well, I love the machine now and in the next couple of weeks, I will be
buying an Apple desktop.

You are right about the Mac way, though...a lot of it is still odd to me.

Meanwhile, I have all sorts of PC stuff around to give away or sell...a
couple of DVD writing drives, one a lightscribe, 6 gigs of high speed
ram, a nice video card, a recent pentium CPU, a new internal dial up
modem...

What I am keeping from the PC world includes my HP mediasmart server,
which runs under Windows Server 2003, and which I use to backup
everything and to distribute movies and music, and the other server I am
building out of my last desktop PC.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'm surprised that M.D.s have time to "hang out" at the mall. Of
course, if the wife is not really an M.D., then that woudl explain
things.

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:14:55 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:14:17 -0500, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:52:22 -0500, HK wrote:

I use Aperture when I need to.
One of the local pros has Aperture 2 and I had a chance to see it in
action a couple of weeks ago.

It's not bad, but I was surprised at how similar to Paint Shop Pro it
was.

It's also Mac centric - you have to have a mind that works in Mac with
respect to the work flow.

And I'll be honest - I've never understood the Mac way of doing
things.

I'm not familiar with paint shop pro, but I will take your word for the
similarities.

In 2001, when I started a new consulting contract with a client, the
client provided a workstation for me with a new Apple Mac laptop. For
whatever reasons, but probably nearly 20 years of working with PCs, I
simply could not fathom the damned thing. Just about everything on it
seem counter intuitive.

Sometime after that I started hanging out at the Mac store at the mall
when my wife dragged me along on shopping trips. I really got hooked on
Mac ergonomics and slowly...very slowly...I started learning a little
bit about a couple of Mac applications that were relevant for me.

After so many years of hanging out at the Apple stores, one of the
managers finally said, Hey...you ever gonna buy one? I bit the bullet
and sold off my IBM Thinkpad T23, a superior laptop for its time, and
bought an Apple Mac Pro about a year ago.

Well, I love the machine now and in the next couple of weeks, I will be
buying an Apple desktop.

You are right about the Mac way, though...a lot of it is still odd to
me.

Meanwhile, I have all sorts of PC stuff around to give away or sell...a
couple of DVD writing drives, one a lightscribe, 6 gigs of high speed
ram, a nice video card, a recent pentium CPU, a new internal dial up
modem...

What I am keeping from the PC world includes my HP mediasmart server,
which runs under Windows Server 2003, and which I use to backup
everything and to distribute movies and music, and the other server I
am
building out of my last desktop PC.

Mrs. Wave has a Mac laptop and one of the new Mac Pro something or
other - Quad core I think - standby.

Just looked in her office - it's a Mac Pro Quad Core she got for her
presentations and stuff she does for school.

I've never used it - I'm stuck in PC land forever. :)

She must be doing some heavy duty presentations...a Mac Pro Quad Core is
a very very fast computer.

A lot of video and slides and stuff like that. I don't pretend to
understand what she does - ony that she's very good at it.

She also uses it for school work - as something of a specialist
working with the less talented middle schoolers, she likes to keep
things interesting for the kids.

I dont' use the thing - I don't go near it, use it, turn it on or off
- it's all hers. :)

--

"Far better it is to dare mighty things,
to win glorious triumphs even though
checkered by failure, than to rank with
those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor
suffer much because they live in the gray
twilight that knows neither victory nor
defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt

Luddite married to non luddite?

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:11:33 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I dont' use the thing - I don't go near it, use it, turn it on or off
- it's all hers. :)

Luddite married to non luddite?

Actually, that's not far from the truth - at least in terms of
computers.

She had HDTV before I did too - I just didn't see the need for HDTV.
Still don't actually, but I eventually broke down and purchased one
for my office.

Oh and TiVO - she got one WAY back and even changed the drive over to
an 80 gig one. I still don't have a TiVO, a DVD player or a VCR. I
kind of cadge off of her TiVO if I want to watch something.

I was an early adopter of digital image tech with the cameras and all
my radios are up to date although a couple of them are getting a
little long in the tooth in terms of features - I don't have a newer
radio with on-board DSP for instance - all my DSP is done externally.

Other than that - yeah - I'm something of a Luddite. :)

--

"I intend to live forever. So far, so good."

Steven Wright

John H wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:15:27 GMT, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:11:33 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I dont' use the thing - I don't go near it, use it, turn it on or off
- it's all hers. :)
Luddite married to non luddite?
Actually, that's not far from the truth - at least in terms of
computers.

She had HDTV before I did too - I just didn't see the need for HDTV.
Still don't actually, but I eventually broke down and purchased one
for my office.

Oh and TiVO - she got one WAY back and even changed the drive over to
an 80 gig one. I still don't have a TiVO, a DVD player or a VCR. I
kind of cadge off of her TiVO if I want to watch something.

I was an early adopter of digital image tech with the cameras and all
my radios are up to date although a couple of them are getting a
little long in the tooth in terms of features - I don't have a newer
radio with on-board DSP for instance - all my DSP is done externally.

Other than that - yeah - I'm something of a Luddite. :)


What time does your clock say? This is a test post to see if it's you or
me.

The clouds are obstructing the sun and I don't see a shadow on the sun dial.

On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:15:27 GMT, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:11:33 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I dont' use the thing - I don't go near it, use it, turn it on or off
- it's all hers. :)

Luddite married to non luddite?

Actually, that's not far from the truth - at least in terms of
computers.

She had HDTV before I did too - I just didn't see the need for HDTV.
Still don't actually, but I eventually broke down and purchased one
for my office.

Oh and TiVO - she got one WAY back and even changed the drive over to
an 80 gig one. I still don't have a TiVO, a DVD player or a VCR. I
kind of cadge off of her TiVO if I want to watch something.

I was an early adopter of digital image tech with the cameras and all
my radios are up to date although a couple of them are getting a
little long in the tooth in terms of features - I don't have a newer
radio with on-board DSP for instance - all my DSP is done externally.

Other than that - yeah - I'm something of a Luddite. :)


What time does your clock say? This is a test post to see if it's you or
me.
--
John H

* He who dies with the most toys is nonetheless DEAD*

On Jan 22, 11:05*pm, GC Boater wrote:
On Jan 22, 7:14*am, HK wrote:





Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:52:22 -0500, HK wrote:

I use Aperture when I need to.

One of the local pros has Aperture 2 and I had a chance to see it in
action a couple of weeks ago.

It's not bad, but I was surprised at how similar to Paint Shop Pro it
was.

It's also Mac centric - you have to have a mind that works in Mac with
respect to the work flow.

And I'll be honest - I've never understood the Mac way of doing
things.

I'm not familiar with paint shop pro, but I will take your word for the
similarities.

In 2001, when I started a new consulting contract with a client, the
client provided a workstation for me with a new Apple Mac laptop. For
whatever reasons, but probably nearly 20 years of working with PCs, I
simply could not fathom the damned thing. Just about everything on it
seem counter intuitive.

Sometime after that I started hanging out at the Mac store at the mall
when my wife dragged me along on shopping trips. I really got hooked on
Mac ergonomics and slowly...very slowly...I started learning a little
bit about a couple of Mac applications that were relevant for me.

After so many years of hanging out at the Apple stores, one of the
managers finally said, Hey...you ever gonna buy one? I bit the bullet
and sold off my IBM Thinkpad T23, a superior laptop for its time, and
bought an Apple Mac Pro about a year ago.

Well, I love the machine now and in the next couple of weeks, I will be
buying an Apple desktop.

You are right about the Mac way, though...a lot of it is still odd to me.

Meanwhile, I have all sorts of PC stuff around to give away or sell...a
couple of DVD writing drives, one a lightscribe, 6 gigs of high speed
ram, a nice video card, a recent pentium CPU, a new internal dial up
modem...

What I am keeping from the PC world includes my HP mediasmart server,
which runs under Windows Server 2003, and which I use to backup
everything and to distribute movies and music, and the other server I am
building out of my last desktop PC.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'm surprised that M.D.s have time to "hang out" at the mall. *Of
course, if the wife is not really an M.D., then that woudl explain
things.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You've answered yourself, grasshopper!