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Pittman Pirate wrote:
"Jim22208" wrote I'm confident our leader will handle this situation properly. The captain did a brave thing. We need to pray for him. I am very interested in what "Fearless Leader" is going to do. Why does "Rocky and Bullwinkle" come to mind? He needs a good man like Krause by his side to help guide him through these troubled times. My guess is that he throws money at the situation and hopes it goes away. Seriously though, I hope some of our elite fighting forces,the NAVY Seals, are working as we speak, to free the captain and make those pirates disappear forever. |
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On Apr 8, 6:00*pm, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:12:18 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: I would put a noose around all the pirates that are captured on the ship and line them up along the rail. *Inform the ones with the captain that if anything happens to the captain or they leave the area, the ones on the rail will head to the sea. I was watching Glenn Beck a while ago and for once he said something that might have made sense. "Where are the Marines?" Keeping a fast reaction force in that area and just plain kicking ass when an American flagged ship is touched would stop it cold. Take no prisoners. I got a feeling it won't be done because of crew safety and "environmental" considerations. Sticky problem. *The Mayaguez and Iran hostage situations are probably studied to make these kinds of decisions. Remember the Q-ships? *Merchant ships with hidden guns. Maybe it was all a John Wayne movie. Tripoli was assaulted to stop the pirates before. Might take a land assault to stop it this time. It's weird to think that 204 years after the Barbary pirates, we're back to the same problem. Actually, Somalia is less "civilized" than was Tripoli. There was a leader of Tripoli to make peace with. --Vic The ship, its contents, and ransom money are just property, a commodity much less valuable than the lives of the ship crews. -- Palin & Bachmann in 2012 - All Stupidity All the Time- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What an idiot! With your sentence above, you've quantified not only the ship and it's contents, but you've quantified the worth of the crew. So, do tell, what is that dollar amount? It's funny that you think the crew of that ship has such great value, but right here in this forum, you've wished death, misery, and ill fortune on countless people. |
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On Apr 9, 12:23*am, wrote:
Simply train and arm the crew with 50 cal. and 20 m.m. automatic weapons to defend themselves. A 20 m.m. Vulcan gatlin gun mounted amidships with quad 50's fore and aft would stop all the nonsense. As a former destroyer shipmate, I assure you the firepower in the aforementioned is sufficient to strike terror in the hearts of any so called Pirates."Eisboch" wrote in message ... Betcha there are a few in Wash DC breathing a sigh of relief. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Agreed. At least a couple Ma-deuces, and even mini-guns would help |
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![]() wrote The ship, its contents, and ransom money are just property, a commodity much less valuable than the lives of the ship crews. If the shipping companies value these men so much, why to they send them unarmed into hostile waters? If they are so valued, why doesn't the US send a team of SEALS in there and clean house? A few 50BMGs on a boat should keep some skinny villagers away from a huge vessel with just some warning snots. If you read closely the descriptions of these crews, they are multinational and one wonders how they all even communicate. They are probably the futigives and derelicts of various nations. The main crew are skilled people. The rest are just oilers and deckhands. |
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![]() "Pittman Pirate" wrote in message ... wrote The ship, its contents, and ransom money are just property, a commodity much less valuable than the lives of the ship crews. If the shipping companies value these men so much, why to they send them unarmed into hostile waters? If they are so valued, why doesn't the US send a team of SEALS in there and clean house? A few 50BMGs on a boat should keep some skinny villagers away from a huge vessel with just some warning snots. If you read closely the descriptions of these crews, they are multinational and one wonders how they all even communicate. They are probably the futigives and derelicts of various nations. The main crew are skilled people. The rest are just oilers and deckhands. Another elitest. I had to laugh that the pirates in the home port were saying they are sending out some armed boats to help the contained pirates. Yup, lots of brain power. Go out with small arms weapons and not hostages against ships that are armed to the teeth with really badass weapons. |
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![]() The "Now" Somalian gov'twants the international community to help support the Somalian CoastGguard???? Now it sounds like they want the wolves to be hand fed too! .... http://www.voanews.com/english/Afric...04-10-voa3.cfm |
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Tim wrote:
The "Now" Somalian gov'twants the international community to help support the Somalian CoastGguard???? Now it sounds like they want the wolves to be hand fed too! .... http://www.voanews.com/english/Afric...04-10-voa3.cfm I smell a rat. The pirates have collected a rather large Booty. Has the Somali Govt. asked for their share of the plunder? The US Navy is on scene ready to help the Somali Govt. rid their country of the pirates. All we need from them is intel. and, as a diplomatic courtesy, permission to do what's needed. I am glad Mr. Obama has been kept informed of developments. How embarrassing it would be if a US flagged ship was attacked and our leader wasn't made privy to the measures being taken by our government. |
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On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:20:19 -0700, "Pittman Pirate"
wrote: If you read closely the descriptions of these crews, they are multinational and one wonders how they all even communicate. They are probably the futigives and derelicts of various nations. The main crew are skilled people. The rest are just oilers and deckhands. The biggested freighter ever made has a crew of thirteen. The Emma Maersk. The standard language of shipping is English. Oilers and deckhands get scarce when the ship has a crew of fewer than 20. Modern ships are so highly automated that there is nobody on deck or in the engine room at night. This is not a new trend. A century ago they built huge schooners in order to get by with smaller crews than necessary for a square rigged ship. The seven masted schooner Thomas Lawson had a crew of 18 plus a steam winch. Casady |
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Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:20:19 -0700, "Pittman Pirate" wrote: If you read closely the descriptions of these crews, they are multinational and one wonders how they all even communicate. They are probably the futigives and derelicts of various nations. The main crew are skilled people. The rest are just oilers and deckhands. The biggested freighter ever made has a crew of thirteen. The Emma Maersk. The standard language of shipping is English. Oilers and deckhands get scarce when the ship has a crew of fewer than 20. Modern ships are so highly automated that there is nobody on deck or in the engine room at night. This is not a new trend. A century ago they built huge schooners in order to get by with smaller crews than necessary for a square rigged ship. The seven masted schooner Thomas Lawson had a crew of 18 plus a steam winch. Casady A steam wench, eh? I guess she never got tired. -- Palin & Bachmann in 2012 - All Stupidity All the Time |
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