On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:12:55 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Not really. When they say "flood", it isn't really flooding. They just
kept the decks wet by pumping the water up from the bilge. It probably
improved speed because the water was in the bilge anyway and when they
pumped it onto the decks, the excess ran overboard through the many
scuppers located on the decks.

By the time Constitution was built, powder was sent up from the
magazines in cloth bags. Other than that. Somebody listen to a tour
guide? They are everywhere known for lying.

Casady

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:12:55 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Not really. When they say "flood", it isn't really flooding. They just
kept the decks wet by pumping the water up from the bilge. It probably
improved speed because the water was in the bilge anyway and when they
pumped it onto the decks, the excess ran overboard through the many
scuppers located on the decks.

By the time Constitution was built, powder was sent up from the
magazines in cloth bags. Other than that. Somebody listen to a tour
guide? They are everywhere known for lying.

Casady


I am not looking for an argument about such a meaningless subject, but you
are simply wrong (again).

If you visit the USS Constitution, you will see up close and personal the
two-man pumps and the piping that routes the pumped water from the bilge up
and onto the decks. You will also witness the design of the deck edges that
had wood that kept the water from simply running over the side, except for
scuppers placed in certain areas. It was designed so the decks would be
kept wet due to pumping.

Cloth bags or not, the concern was spillage of powder on dry decks and it's
ignition either by flame or from sparks from the cannons.

The tour guides have no reason to lie about their purpose.

Eisboch

On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:21:47 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:12:55 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Not really. When they say "flood", it isn't really flooding. They just
kept the decks wet by pumping the water up from the bilge. It probably
improved speed because the water was in the bilge anyway and when they
pumped it onto the decks, the excess ran overboard through the many
scuppers located on the decks.

By the time Constitution was built, powder was sent up from the
magazines in cloth bags. Other than that. Somebody listen to a tour
guide? They are everywhere known for lying.

Casady


I am not looking for an argument about such a meaningless subject, but you
are simply wrong (again).

If you visit the USS Constitution, you will see up close and personal the
two-man pumps and the piping that routes the pumped water from the bilge up
and onto the decks. You will also witness the design of the deck edges that
had wood that kept the water from simply running over the side, except for
scuppers placed in certain areas. It was designed so the decks would be
kept wet due to pumping.

Cloth bags or not, the concern was spillage of powder on dry decks and it's
ignition either by flame or from sparks from the cannons.

The tour guides have no reason to lie about their purpose.

Eisboch

Hasn't Richard told you about his years as a tour guide?

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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The tour guides have no reason to lie about their purpose.



BTW, maybe you know this, maybe you don't, but the Constitution is still a
commissioned US Navy warship. It is manned by active duty Navy personnel
who get the rare honor of having it as a duty station. They are also the
"tour guides".

Eisboch

"jps" wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:21:47 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:12:55 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Not really. When they say "flood", it isn't really flooding. They
just
kept the decks wet by pumping the water up from the bilge. It
probably
improved speed because the water was in the bilge anyway and when they
pumped it onto the decks, the excess ran overboard through the many
scuppers located on the decks.

By the time Constitution was built, powder was sent up from the
magazines in cloth bags. Other than that. Somebody listen to a tour
guide? They are everywhere known for lying.

Casady


I am not looking for an argument about such a meaningless subject, but you
are simply wrong (again).

If you visit the USS Constitution, you will see up close and personal the
two-man pumps and the piping that routes the pumped water from the bilge
up
and onto the decks. You will also witness the design of the deck edges
that
had wood that kept the water from simply running over the side, except for
scuppers placed in certain areas. It was designed so the decks would be
kept wet due to pumping.

Cloth bags or not, the concern was spillage of powder on dry decks and
it's
ignition either by flame or from sparks from the cannons.

The tour guides have no reason to lie about their purpose.

Eisboch



Hasn't Richard told you about his years as a tour guide?


Which of us "Richards" are you referring to? Can't be me. Never gave
tours to anyone on anything.

Eisboch

On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:21:47 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:12:55 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Not really. When they say "flood", it isn't really flooding. They just
kept the decks wet by pumping the water up from the bilge. It probably
improved speed because the water was in the bilge anyway and when they
pumped it onto the decks, the excess ran overboard through the many
scuppers located on the decks.

By the time Constitution was built, powder was sent up from the
magazines in cloth bags. Other than that. Somebody listen to a tour
guide? They are everywhere known for lying.

Casady


I am not looking for an argument about such a meaningless subject, but you
are simply wrong (again).

If you visit the USS Constitution, you will see up close and personal the
two-man pumps and the piping that routes the pumped water from the bilge up
and onto the decks. You will also witness the design of the deck edges that
had wood that kept the water from simply running over the side, except for
scuppers placed in certain areas. It was designed so the decks would be
kept wet due to pumping.

Cloth bags or not, the concern was spillage of powder on dry decks and it's
ignition either by flame or from sparks from the cannons.

The tour guides have no reason to lie about their purpose.

Eisboch

Direct him to the Patrick O'Brian novels where he'll learn all about
fighting wooden ships in the old days!

On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:33:41 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:21:47 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:12:55 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Not really. When they say "flood", it isn't really flooding. They
just
kept the decks wet by pumping the water up from the bilge. It
probably
improved speed because the water was in the bilge anyway and when they
pumped it onto the decks, the excess ran overboard through the many
scuppers located on the decks.

By the time Constitution was built, powder was sent up from the
magazines in cloth bags. Other than that. Somebody listen to a tour
guide? They are everywhere known for lying.

Casady


I am not looking for an argument about such a meaningless subject, but you
are simply wrong (again).

If you visit the USS Constitution, you will see up close and personal the
two-man pumps and the piping that routes the pumped water from the bilge
up
and onto the decks. You will also witness the design of the deck edges
that
had wood that kept the water from simply running over the side, except for
scuppers placed in certain areas. It was designed so the decks would be
kept wet due to pumping.

Cloth bags or not, the concern was spillage of powder on dry decks and
it's
ignition either by flame or from sparks from the cannons.

The tour guides have no reason to lie about their purpose.

Eisboch



Hasn't Richard told you about his years as a tour guide?


Which of us "Richards" are you referring to? Can't be me. Never gave
tours to anyone on anything.

Eisboch

I responded to you. It was about the 3rd party Richard.

Richard Casady had to have been a tour guide in order to be so certain
about how frequently they lie.

It was a funny line until you got technical about it. Now I know how
you felt when I stepped on your "tactics of lint" thread.

"jps" wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:33:41 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:21:47 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:12:55 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Not really. When they say "flood", it isn't really flooding. They
just
kept the decks wet by pumping the water up from the bilge. It
probably
improved speed because the water was in the bilge anyway and when
they
pumped it onto the decks, the excess ran overboard through the many
scuppers located on the decks.

By the time Constitution was built, powder was sent up from the
magazines in cloth bags. Other than that. Somebody listen to a tour
guide? They are everywhere known for lying.

Casady


I am not looking for an argument about such a meaningless subject, but
you
are simply wrong (again).

If you visit the USS Constitution, you will see up close and personal
the
two-man pumps and the piping that routes the pumped water from the
bilge
up
and onto the decks. You will also witness the design of the deck edges
that
had wood that kept the water from simply running over the side, except
for
scuppers placed in certain areas. It was designed so the decks would be
kept wet due to pumping.

Cloth bags or not, the concern was spillage of powder on dry decks and
it's
ignition either by flame or from sparks from the cannons.

The tour guides have no reason to lie about their purpose.

Eisboch



Hasn't Richard told you about his years as a tour guide?


Which of us "Richards" are you referring to? Can't be me. Never gave
tours to anyone on anything.

Eisboch

I responded to you. It was about the 3rd party Richard.

Richard Casady had to have been a tour guide in order to be so certain
about how frequently they lie.

It was a funny line until you got technical about it. Now I know how
you felt when I stepped on your "tactics of lint" thread.

They like to embelish the truth here at times.
A friend from out west took the Harbour Hopper tour on the fleet of Lark V
Vietnam era military machine.
http://www.murphysonthewater.com/harbourhopper/
When she told me what they said about the Morses tea building, I laughed out
loud. It was bull****.
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehou...8144ce2f98bd35
http://www.flickr.com/photos/whitebeard/3407643030/

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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The tour guides have no reason to lie about their purpose.



BTW, maybe you know this, maybe you don't, but the Constitution is still
a commissioned US Navy warship. It is manned by active duty Navy
personnel who get the rare honor of having it as a duty station. They
are also the "tour guides".

Eisboch


Damn, they should be Marine tour guides. They do everything *important* for
the Navy. 8)

On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:12:55 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:

You also learned why most sailors were short people.

In that era, I'm not sure if everyone wasn't short. Ever see a suit of
armor? Those guys were on the small side too.