Now they have attacked a US owned tug that was towing a barge or something.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090411/..._af/piracy_152

Eisboch

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:23:34 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


Now they have attacked a US owned tug that was towing a barge or something.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090411/..._af/piracy_152

Eisboch

I cannot understand why these ships don't have .50 cals on the bow and
stern. The damn things will reach out and touch someone a mile away.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

On Apr 11, 11:57*am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:23:34 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:



Now they have attacked a US owned tug that was towing a barge or something.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090411/..._af/piracy_152

Eisboch

I cannot understand why these ships don't have .50 cals on the bow and
stern. The damn things will reach out and touch someone a mile away.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not." *
Thomas Jefferson

I keep hearing that armed ships are not allowed in some ports.. Seems
those ports should be empty for a while till they change their
attitudes... Another solution might be for these companies to hire a
couple of BlackWater types for each vessel. If a certain port wanted
to keep arms out, evacuate the BW guys just outside the ports
"security zone" and let the port security take the ship in... When the
ship leaves the security zone, have the BW guys placed back on board..
Just a thought...

I have also considered the cost and logistics, weather, port security,
etc... I know this would not be easy...

wrote:
On Apr 11, 11:57 am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:23:34 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:



Now they have attacked a US owned tug that was towing a barge or something.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090411/..._af/piracy_152
Eisboch
I cannot understand why these ships don't have .50 cals on the bow and
stern. The damn things will reach out and touch someone a mile away.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

I keep hearing that armed ships are not allowed in some ports.. Seems
those ports should be empty for a while till they change their
attitudes... Another solution might be for these companies to hire a
couple of BlackWater types for each vessel. If a certain port wanted
to keep arms out, evacuate the BW guys just outside the ports
"security zone" and let the port security take the ship in... When the
ship leaves the security zone, have the BW guys placed back on board..
Just a thought...

I have also considered the cost and logistics, weather, port security,
etc... I know this would not be easy...


It's nice to see the Assholes of the Universe...you and Herring...unite.





--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

On Apr 11, 12:50*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 11, 11:57 am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:23:34 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Now they have attacked a US owned tug that was towing a barge or something.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090411/..._af/piracy_152
Eisboch
I cannot understand why these ships don't have .50 cals on the bow and
stern. The damn things will reach out and touch someone a mile away.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not." *
Thomas Jefferson

I keep hearing that armed ships are not allowed in some ports.. Seems
those ports should be empty for a while till they change their
attitudes... Another solution might be for these companies to hire a
couple of BlackWater types for each vessel. If a certain port wanted
to keep arms out, evacuate the BW guys just outside the ports
"security zone" and let the port security take the ship in... When the
ship leaves the security zone, have the BW guys placed back on board..
Just a thought...

I have also considered the cost and logistics, weather, port security,
etc... I know this would not be easy...

It's nice to see the Assholes of the Universe...you and Herring...unite.

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Don't be a hater.

wrote:
On Apr 11, 12:50 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Apr 11, 11:57 am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:23:34 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
Now they have attacked a US owned tug that was towing a barge or something.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090411/..._af/piracy_152
Eisboch
I cannot understand why these ships don't have .50 cals on the bow and
stern. The damn things will reach out and touch someone a mile away.
--
John H
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson
I keep hearing that armed ships are not allowed in some ports.. Seems
those ports should be empty for a while till they change their
attitudes... Another solution might be for these companies to hire a
couple of BlackWater types for each vessel. If a certain port wanted
to keep arms out, evacuate the BW guys just outside the ports
"security zone" and let the port security take the ship in... When the
ship leaves the security zone, have the BW guys placed back on board..
Just a thought...
I have also considered the cost and logistics, weather, port security,
etc... I know this would not be easy...
It's nice to see the Assholes of the Universe...you and Herring...unite.

--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Don't be a hater.


Projecting again?

Built any little pond boats lately?
Been boating lately?

No?

Why are you here?



--
Palin & Bachmann in 2012 -
All Stupidity All the Time

On Apr 11, 11:14*am, wrote:
On Apr 11, 11:57*am, John H wrote:



On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:23:34 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Now they have attacked a US owned tug that was towing a barge or something.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090411/..._af/piracy_152

Eisboch

I cannot understand why these ships don't have .50 cals on the bow and
stern. The damn things will reach out and touch someone a mile away.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not." *
Thomas Jefferson

I keep hearing that armed ships are not allowed in some ports.. Seems
those ports should be empty for a while till they change their
attitudes... Another solution might be for these companies to hire a
couple of BlackWater types for each vessel. If a certain port wanted
to keep arms out, evacuate the BW guys just outside the ports
"security zone" and let the port security take the ship in... When the
ship leaves the security zone, have the BW guys placed back on board..
Just a thought...

I have also considered the cost and logistics, weather, port security,
etc... I know this would not be easy...

i was thinking the same thing. Have an armed security boat out in
Int'l waters, When the cargo ship gets out in the clear zone, then
security forces would load up on the vessel. And before it reached
it's POD, and while still out in Itn'l water another security boat
picks up the security forces and arms and the ship sails into it's
port. No defenses going out nor coming in, but in between?

well.....

"Tim" wrote in message
...

i was thinking the same thing. Have an armed security boat out in
Int'l waters, When the cargo ship gets out in the clear zone, then
security forces would load up on the vessel. And before it reached
it's POD, and while still out in Itn'l water another security boat
picks up the security forces and arms and the ship sails into it's
port. No defenses going out nor coming in, but in between?

well.....

-------------------------

During WWII it was determined that convoys was the safest means of
transiting hot zones.
Perhaps all the shipping companies should coordinate their ship's movements.

Eisboch

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:32:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 11, 11:14*am, wrote:
On Apr 11, 11:57*am, John H wrote:



On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:23:34 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Now they have attacked a US owned tug that was towing a barge or something.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090411/..._af/piracy_152

Eisboch

I cannot understand why these ships don't have .50 cals on the bow and
stern. The damn things will reach out and touch someone a mile away.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not." *
Thomas Jefferson

I keep hearing that armed ships are not allowed in some ports.. Seems
those ports should be empty for a while till they change their
attitudes... Another solution might be for these companies to hire a
couple of BlackWater types for each vessel. If a certain port wanted
to keep arms out, evacuate the BW guys just outside the ports
"security zone" and let the port security take the ship in... When the
ship leaves the security zone, have the BW guys placed back on board..
Just a thought...

I have also considered the cost and logistics, weather, port security,
etc... I know this would not be easy...

i was thinking the same thing. Have an armed security boat out in
Int'l waters, When the cargo ship gets out in the clear zone, then
security forces would load up on the vessel. And before it reached
it's POD, and while still out in Itn'l water another security boat
picks up the security forces and arms and the ship sails into it's
port. No defenses going out nor coming in, but in between?

well.....

Another option - an Apache helicopter, or any chopper with a mini-gun.
Then the chopper could leapfrog from ship to ship.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:23:34 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


Now they have attacked a US owned tug that was towing a barge or
something.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090411/..._af/piracy_152

Eisboch

I cannot understand why these ships don't have .50 cals on the bow and
stern. The damn things will reach out and touch someone a mile away.

I have to concur. If a 28 foot boat is coming at a freighter, I can't see
why they can't just blow them right out of the water and just make a log
entry. If I was the captian, I wouldn't even stop even if I saw them
swiming. Helping good people on the high seas is one thing, rescuing a
pirate is best left to the sharks.

Maybe even put the US satelites to good use, and forward them that boats are
leaving dock and intercept them with prejudice. Why take the time, risk and
effort on these pirates? After it is know that they will be routinely shot
up, they will cease.