On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:33:20 -0400, "Eisboch"
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Bought a new Grand Cherokee with the 6 cyl in 1995 that I sold to a
family member last year, still running strong. Awesome in winter
where snow lasts for months. Dropped a transmission at around 50K
miles but it was still under warranty.

Not saying I'd buy another but it wasn't a horrible experience.



I am not sure that Jeep really qualifies as a MoPar designed product. The
Jeep line was purchased by MoPar from American Motors (remember the
"Rambler"?)

Oh boy, do I ever. Nash Rambler through the super hot Pacer.

I had a Dodge Dart for several years in my early twenties. Jacked up
with giant chrome American Racing wheels. Finally totaled it one
night by driving over a 3 ft. boulder that had rolled onto Hwy 101
outside of Malibu. It was an ugly demise, eviscerated from below.

But, during the 50's and 60's, MoPar built some tanks of cars. They
weren't exactly refined when compared to GM and even some Ford products but
they were tough as hell. The legendary A727 transmission introduced in the
early 60's is still considered to be one of the best automatic transmissions
ever designed and built. They were (are) virtually bullet proof and are
just as happy in a high performance muscle car as they are in a mild
mannered family sedan. The '69 "General Lee" Dodge Charger I had for a
while had a 727 transmission mated to a high output 440 ci engine. Both
the engine and transmission were slightly modified. The engine had high
compression pistons, a mild cam and was electronically tweaked for high
horsepower. The only modification made to the transmission was the
addition of a shift kit. I never really pushed the car to it's potential,
but it had brute power, as long as you were going in a straight line.

It's a bit ironic that the more modern MoPar transmissions used in the
Caravan and in the early Ram trucks didn't share the same robust design and
reputation.

Eisboch

The second transmission is still going strong as is the straight six.
The Jeep replaced the BMW I brought back from S. Cal in '93. First
snow and that BMW made it all of 15 ft on a 2% grade. Parked it and
used it two days later as a down payment.

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Just had a yearly safety inspection done on the 2007 Dodge Charger by
the dealer where we bought it.
They claimed the outer tie rod ends were wore out and had to be
replaced before passing the inspection.
This is at 66,000 kilometers...about 40 k miles.


I may be mistaken, but I think your '07 Charger has front end components
that are shared with some Mercedes models. Sounds a little fishy to
me. Must have been a rough 40k miles.

Eisboch

Car had 56000 kilometers on it at 1.5 years of service. It was an
Enterprise long term rental to a Pratt & Whitney employee who travelled
back & forth between Halifax & Montreal. Car listed at $28k new here,
but my son (me) paid $15.3K.
I wanted him to get a new Honda Civic or a Toyota Corolla.....but who
listens to the old man.


Who knows. Like someone said, it could be the dealership trying to get
some work or it could indeed be prematurely failed tie rods.

My '65 VW bus is in the shop right now for the same thing. :-)

Eisboch

The extended warranty coverage my son bought last year ( again, against my
advice) covered the parts and labour but he had to pay for the wheel
alignment.
Recommended of course when work is done on the front end.

On Apr 16, 8:38*pm, "Don White" wrote:
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"Don White" wrote in message
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Just had a yearly safety inspection done on the 2007 Dodge Charger by the
dealer where we bought it.
They claimed the outer tie rod ends were wore out and had to be replaced
before passing the inspection.
This is at 66,000 kilometers...about 40 k miles.

I may be mistaken, but I think your '07 Charger has front end components
that are shared with some Mercedes models. * Sounds a little fishy to me.
Must have been a rough 40k miles.

Eisboch

Car had 56000 kilometers on it at 1.5 years of service. *It was an
Enterprise long term rental to a Pratt & Whitney employee who travelled back
& forth between Halifax & Montreal. * Car listed at $28k new here, but my
son *(me) paid $15.3K.
I wanted him to get a new Honda Civic or a Toyota Corolla.....but who
listens to the old man.

Your money, and you couldn't force your will on him, Pinky?

Repeat after me, "If I'm buying, it will be this Civic!"

Grow a pair, will ya? Geez...

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On Apr 16, 8:38 pm, "Don White" wrote:
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"Don White" wrote in message
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Just had a yearly safety inspection done on the 2007 Dodge Charger by
the
dealer where we bought it.
They claimed the outer tie rod ends were wore out and had to be
replaced
before passing the inspection.
This is at 66,000 kilometers...about 40 k miles.

I may be mistaken, but I think your '07 Charger has front end components
that are shared with some Mercedes models. Sounds a little fishy to me.
Must have been a rough 40k miles.

Eisboch

Car had 56000 kilometers on it at 1.5 years of service. It was an
Enterprise long term rental to a Pratt & Whitney employee who travelled
back
& forth between Halifax & Montreal. Car listed at $28k new here, but my
son (me) paid $15.3K.
I wanted him to get a new Honda Civic or a Toyota Corolla.....but who
listens to the old man.

Your money, and you couldn't force your will on him, Pinky?

Repeat after me, "If I'm buying, it will be this Civic!"

Grow a pair, will ya? Geez...

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Yeah but..numbnuts...
he repays me bi-weekly until the purchase price is covered.
I don't want to get stuck with a big sedan. His money..so it will be his
car.
I thought y'all believed in freedom of choice down there. looks like Bush
really did screw up your country

On Apr 17, 8:19*am, "Don White" wrote:
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On Apr 16, 8:38 pm, "Don White" wrote:



"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"Don White" wrote in message
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Just had a yearly safety inspection done on the 2007 Dodge Charger by
the
dealer where we bought it.
They claimed the outer tie rod ends were wore out and had to be
replaced
before passing the inspection.
This is at 66,000 kilometers...about 40 k miles.

I may be mistaken, but I think your '07 Charger has front end components
that are shared with some Mercedes models. Sounds a little fishy to me.
Must have been a rough 40k miles.

Eisboch

Car had 56000 kilometers on it at 1.5 years of service. It was an
Enterprise long term rental to a Pratt & Whitney employee who travelled
back
& forth between Halifax & Montreal. Car listed at $28k new here, but my
son (me) paid $15.3K.
I wanted him to get a new Honda Civic or a Toyota Corolla.....but who
listens to the old man.

Your money, and you couldn't force your will on him, Pinky?

Repeat after me, "If I'm buying, it will be this Civic!"

Grow a pair, will ya? *Geez...

************************************************** ****

Yeah but..numbnuts...
he repays me bi-weekly until the purchase price is covered.
I don't want to get stuck with a big sedan. *His money..so it will be his
car.
I thought y'all believed in freedom of choice down there. *looks like Bush
really did screw up your country

We choose to not let our children tell us what to do.

Oh, that's right... he's an adult. Living under your roof. Drinking
your beer. Living off of you, and he has no credit.

Fine job you've done of raising your son. ~snerk~

You should get you own house in order before you worry about what's
going on south of your border.

On Apr 16, 7:36*pm, D K wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
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Just had a yearly safety inspection done on the 2007 Dodge Charger by
the dealer where we bought it.
They claimed the outer tie rod ends were wore out and had to be
replaced before passing the inspection.
This is at 66,000 kilometers...about 40 k miles.

I may be mistaken, but I think your '07 Charger has front end components
that are shared with some Mercedes models. * Sounds a little fishy to
me. Must have been a rough 40k miles.

Eisboch

The drunk kid must have hit every curb in the province.- Hide quoted text -

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That's what I was thinking! But I'm not sure he's up to driving too
much. You have to leave the house for that. Get dressed, etc. Much
easier just to yell at dad to fetch more beer!

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On Apr 17, 8:19 am, "Don White" wrote:
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On Apr 16, 8:38 pm, "Don White" wrote:



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Just had a yearly safety inspection done on the 2007 Dodge Charger by
the
dealer where we bought it.
They claimed the outer tie rod ends were wore out and had to be
replaced
before passing the inspection.
This is at 66,000 kilometers...about 40 k miles.
I may be mistaken, but I think your '07 Charger has front end components
that are shared with some Mercedes models. Sounds a little fishy to me.
Must have been a rough 40k miles.
Eisboch
Car had 56000 kilometers on it at 1.5 years of service. It was an
Enterprise long term rental to a Pratt & Whitney employee who travelled
back
& forth between Halifax & Montreal. Car listed at $28k new here, but my
son (me) paid $15.3K.
I wanted him to get a new Honda Civic or a Toyota Corolla.....but who
listens to the old man.
Your money, and you couldn't force your will on him, Pinky?

Repeat after me, "If I'm buying, it will be this Civic!"

Grow a pair, will ya? Geez...

************************************************** ****

Yeah but..numbnuts...
he repays me bi-weekly until the purchase price is covered.
I don't want to get stuck with a big sedan. His money..so it will be his
car.
I thought y'all believed in freedom of choice down there. looks like Bush
really did screw up your country

We choose to not let our children tell us what to do.

Oh, that's right... he's an adult. Living under your roof. Drinking
your beer. Living off of you, and he has no credit.

Fine job you've done of raising your son. ~snerk~

You should get you own house in order before you worry about what's
going on south of your border.

Don't be too harsh on our boy Donnie. Often kids don't leave the nest
till they are 21 or 22 years old if they haven't been in the service.

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On Apr 17, 8:19 am, "Don White" wrote:
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On Apr 16, 8:38 pm, "Don White" wrote:



"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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Just had a yearly safety inspection done on the 2007 Dodge Charger by
the
dealer where we bought it.
They claimed the outer tie rod ends were wore out and had to be
replaced
before passing the inspection.
This is at 66,000 kilometers...about 40 k miles.
I may be mistaken, but I think your '07 Charger has front end components
that are shared with some Mercedes models. Sounds a little fishy to me.
Must have been a rough 40k miles.
Eisboch
Car had 56000 kilometers on it at 1.5 years of service. It was an
Enterprise long term rental to a Pratt & Whitney employee who travelled
back
& forth between Halifax & Montreal. Car listed at $28k new here, but my
son (me) paid $15.3K.
I wanted him to get a new Honda Civic or a Toyota Corolla.....but who
listens to the old man.
Your money, and you couldn't force your will on him, Pinky?

Repeat after me, "If I'm buying, it will be this Civic!"

Grow a pair, will ya? Geez...

************************************************** ****

Yeah but..numbnuts...
he repays me bi-weekly until the purchase price is covered.
I don't want to get stuck with a big sedan. His money..so it will be his
car.
I thought y'all believed in freedom of choice down there. looks like Bush
really did screw up your country

We choose to not let our children tell us what to do.

Oh, that's right... he's an adult. Living under your roof. Drinking
your beer. Living off of you, and he has no credit.

Fine job you've done of raising your son. ~snerk~

You should get you own house in order before you worry about what's
going on south of your border.


Someone I doubt Don's kid runs around wearing a white sheet outfit with
a pointy hat. Bet yours do.

On Apr 17, 9:58*am, HK wrote:
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On Apr 17, 8:19 am, "Don White" wrote:
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On Apr 16, 8:38 pm, "Don White" wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Just had a yearly safety inspection done on the 2007 Dodge Charger by
the
dealer where we bought it.
They claimed the outer tie rod ends were wore out and had to be
replaced
before passing the inspection.
This is at 66,000 kilometers...about 40 k miles.
I may be mistaken, but I think your '07 Charger has front end components
that are shared with some Mercedes models. Sounds a little fishy to me.
Must have been a rough 40k miles.
Eisboch
Car had 56000 kilometers on it at 1.5 years of service. It was an
Enterprise long term rental to a Pratt & Whitney employee who travelled
back
& forth between Halifax & Montreal. Car listed at $28k new here, but my
son (me) paid $15.3K.
I wanted him to get a new Honda Civic or a Toyota Corolla.....but who
listens to the old man.
Your money, and you couldn't force your will on him, Pinky?

Repeat after me, "If I'm buying, it will be this Civic!"

Grow a pair, will ya? *Geez...

************************************************** ****

Yeah but..numbnuts...
he repays me bi-weekly until the purchase price is covered.
I don't want to get stuck with a big sedan. *His money..so it will be his
car.
I thought y'all believed in freedom of choice down there. *looks like Bush
really did screw up your country

We choose to not let our children tell us what to do.

Oh, that's right... he's an adult. *Living under your roof. *Drinking
your beer. *Living off of you, and he has no credit.

Fine job you've done of raising your son. *~snerk~

You should get you own house in order before you worry about what's
going on south of your border.

Someone I doubt Don's kid runs around wearing a white sheet outfit with
a pointy hat. Bet yours do.

You say that because of where I live and the color of my skin. That
makes you a racist, a bigot, and an idiot.

You keep proving it every day.

On Apr 17, 9:58*am, HK wrote:

Someone I doubt Don's kid runs around wearing a white sheet outfit with
a pointy hat. Bet yours do.- Hide quoted text -

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That's one screwed up sentence from the person who claims to have
graduated from Yale and claims to be a writer. I wonder if Don will be
along to scold and correct him.....
Somehow I'm doubting that will happen.