On Apr 23, 5:23*am, "D.Duck" wrote:
"jps" wrote in message

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On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:10:07 -0600, "SteveB"
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:29:44 -0600, "SteveB"
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:30:02 -0700, "Calif Bill"
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:39:02 -0700, "Calif Bill"
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"SteveB" wrote in message
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There's lots of paranoid lunatics with guns. *Not hoodlums,
****ing
lunatics. *We're the only country on the planet, save from some
real
backwards tribals outposts, that host such a profusion of
firepower.
We're also the western civilization that sports the higest per
capita
rate of gun death in the world.

Ah, yes. *If we could only improve the technologies of
underdeveloped
nations and get them to quit using those
machetes...................

Those underdeveloped nations also get in to massive Genocide via
firearms.
Maybe if the genocided had more firearms the genocidee's might be
less
inclined to engage in genocide. *Hell the genocidee's also seem to
use
hacking instuments with vigor.

I don't think it's a good thing to compete with underdeveloped
nations
for the most savagery and violence.

You seem to think that is all we do here in America.

Seems to be showing up a lot in the paper, every day.

Economic stress is not helping.

Well, Pollyanna, what would YOU do? *I mean, besides taking everyone's
guns
and other liberties and having ID numbers stenciled on the inside of the
forearm.

Steve

****in' well arm everybody Steve. *Elementary schoolers need
protection from bullies on the playground. *If a kid wants your lunch
money, blast 'em!

Putting guns in everyone's hands is a recipe for disaster. *If you
don't recognize that you're ****ing stupid.

Now you have me confused. *In the first sentence of the first paragraph,
you
say arm everyone. *Then in the second paragraph, you contradict yourself.
You are wearing me down. *Are you on drugs?

That's because you're too ****ing dense to recognize sarcasm.

Can't try to make a point without the nasty language? *A real sign of
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It's deflection, he learned it from Harry and his lover Don.

On Apr 22, 9:14*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
Bzzzzztttttt. We do believe in the Bible, specifically the King James
version. We do however see the Book of Mormon as an additional text to
the bible, as with the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great
Price.. But like you, and I can see that you are open minded, I don't
care to discuss it with the bigotshere...

One of the articles of faith in Mormonism is: *"We believe in the bible as
far as it is correctly translated." *That allows throwing out anything that
contradicts Mormondom.

Geeze, I spent ten years in the Church and never heard anything about
this. We did however spend two years studying the bible.. Can you cite
this or is it must more...???


The "historical" underpinnings of the Book of Mormon transcend the
bizarre.

Which book of Mormon are you referring to? *There has been scores of
versions, revised from the previous to make up for some error. *If it is
prophesy, there are no errors. *Bibles have different "versions", but they
don't rewrite things they disagree with.

Scores of versions.. Hey, this is getting better all the time Can
you cite this or is it just..??

jps wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:58:32 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...
wrote:
On Apr 22, 9:14 pm, "SteveB" wrote:
Bzzzzztttttt. We do believe in the Bible, specifically the King James
version. We do however see the Book of Mormon as an additional text to
the bible, as with the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great
Price.. But like you, and I can see that you are open minded, I don't
care to discuss it with the bigotshere...
One of the articles of faith in Mormonism is: "We believe in the bible
as
far as it is correctly translated." That allows throwing out anything
that
contradicts Mormondom.

The "historical" underpinnings of the Book of Mormon transcend the
bizarre.
Which book of Mormon are you referring to? There has been scores of
versions, revised from the previous to make up for some error. If it is
prophesy, there are no errors. Bibles have different "versions", but
they
don't rewrite things they disagree with.
The "historical" underpinnings of the Book of Mormon transcend
the
bizarre.
Just like their false Prophet, Joseph Smith.

Careful readers might note I made no comment on the Book(s) of Mormon or
their iterations, but, rather, the historical underpinnings of the work.
Joseph Smith claimed he translated the work from a set of ancient golden
plates he found in New York State after an angel told him where to look.
Many scholars claim the work was plagarized, and give comparative sources.

Then there is the business of Jesus visiting native Americans.


Hey, believe whatever you want, right?
Yes, even though the American Indians took issue with the church, and there
were extensive DNA tests done. Results of which somehow quietly went away
............ Or at least are not talked about................


I'm sure the Mormons have baptized thousands of American Indians
posthumously.

Reminds me of the Christian missionaries who would chase oboriginals
through the brush or jungle and kill them so they could be saved in
the name of Jesus.

They're all fruitcakes.


They're still doing that...

On Apr 23, 8:58*am, HK wrote:
jps wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:58:32 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Apr 22, 9:14 pm, "SteveB" wrote:
Bzzzzztttttt. We do believe in the Bible, specifically the King James
version. We do however see the Book of Mormon as an additional text to
the bible, as with the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great
Price.. But like you, and I can see that you are open minded, I don't
care to discuss it with the bigotshere...
One of the articles of faith in Mormonism is: *"We believe in the bible
as
far as it is correctly translated." *That allows throwing out anything
that
contradicts Mormondom.

The "historical" underpinnings of the Book of Mormon transcend the
bizarre.
Which book of Mormon are you referring to? *There has been scores of
versions, revised from the previous to make up for some error. *If it is
prophesy, there are no errors. *Bibles have different "versions", but
they
don't rewrite things they disagree with.
The "historical" underpinnings of the Book of Mormon transcend
the
bizarre.
Just like their false Prophet, Joseph Smith.

Careful readers might note I made no comment on the Book(s) of Mormon or
their iterations, but, rather, the historical underpinnings of the work.
Joseph Smith claimed he translated the work from a set of ancient golden
plates he found in New York State after an angel told him where to look.
Many scholars claim the work was plagarized, and give comparative sources.

Then there is the business of Jesus visiting native Americans.

Hey, believe whatever you want, right?
Yes, even though the American Indians took issue with the church, and there
were extensive DNA tests done. *Results of which somehow quietly went away
............ *Or at least are not talked about................

I'm sure the Mormons have baptized thousands of American Indians
posthumously.

Reminds me of the Christian missionaries who would chase oboriginals
through the brush or jungle and kill them so they could be saved in
the name of Jesus.

They're all fruitcakes.

They're still doing that...- Hide quoted text -

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Well then, you have somebody else to hate... I will let you guys make
up stories as you always do. This should be pretty entertaining.
Either way, go for it, I gotta' get te rig ready for racin' this
weekend

On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:54:07 -0700, jps wrote:

Putting guns in everyone's hands is a recipe for disaster. If you
don't recognize that you're ****ing stupid.

It is already a done deal. There are at least 100 000 000 gun owners
in the US. Guns are no big deal. Thirty years ago I gave my sister and
brother-in-law his and hers shotguns for their wedding. They still
have and use them, unlike much of the crap that passes for wedding
presents.

Casady

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:54:07 -0700, jps wrote:

Putting guns in everyone's hands is a recipe for disaster. If you
don't recognize that you're ****ing stupid.

It is already a done deal. There are at least 100 000 000 gun owners
in the US. Guns are no big deal. Thirty years ago I gave my sister and
brother-in-law his and hers shotguns for their wedding. They still
have and use them, unlike much of the crap that passes for wedding
presents.

Casady


Heh. Now, *that's* a way of providing motivation for a long lasting and
trusting marriage!

Eisboch

On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:07:52 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

We do believe in the Bible, specifically the King James
version. We do however see the Book of Mormon as an additional text to
the bible

It is amazing how many different systems of belief you can base on one
text. People forget it was intended to be the Church of England's
private little book. It's greatness as literature must partly account
for it's widespread popularity. How you can take every word literally
is beyond me. The bible was written in Greek after all. My grandmother
could have read the original texts, but didn't. Four years of Greek
and Latin, Phi Beta Kappa at that, and never read a word of either
after graduation. Those keys are for winding a pocket watch by the
way. You carry both on the same chain.

Casady

wrote:
On Apr 23, 8:58 am, HK wrote:
jps wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:58:32 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
wrote:
On Apr 22, 9:14 pm, "SteveB" wrote:
Bzzzzztttttt. We do believe in the Bible, specifically the King James
version. We do however see the Book of Mormon as an additional text to
the bible, as with the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great
Price.. But like you, and I can see that you are open minded, I don't
care to discuss it with the bigotshere...
One of the articles of faith in Mormonism is: "We believe in the bible
as
far as it is correctly translated." That allows throwing out anything
that
contradicts Mormondom.
The "historical" underpinnings of the Book of Mormon transcend the
bizarre.
Which book of Mormon are you referring to? There has been scores of
versions, revised from the previous to make up for some error. If it is
prophesy, there are no errors. Bibles have different "versions", but
they
don't rewrite things they disagree with.
The "historical" underpinnings of the Book of Mormon transcend
the
bizarre.
Just like their false Prophet, Joseph Smith.
Careful readers might note I made no comment on the Book(s) of Mormon or
their iterations, but, rather, the historical underpinnings of the work.
Joseph Smith claimed he translated the work from a set of ancient golden
plates he found in New York State after an angel told him where to look.
Many scholars claim the work was plagarized, and give comparative sources.
Then there is the business of Jesus visiting native Americans.
Hey, believe whatever you want, right?
Yes, even though the American Indians took issue with the church, and there
were extensive DNA tests done. Results of which somehow quietly went away
............ Or at least are not talked about................
I'm sure the Mormons have baptized thousands of American Indians
posthumously.
Reminds me of the Christian missionaries who would chase oboriginals
through the brush or jungle and kill them so they could be saved in
the name of Jesus.
They're all fruitcakes.
They're still doing that...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well then, you have somebody else to hate... I will let you guys make
up stories as you always do. This should be pretty entertaining.
Either way, go for it, I gotta' get te rig ready for racin' this
weekend


There is nothing "made up" about the fact that "Christians" head off to
underdeveloped areas of central and south America in search of
"converts," even if the "natives" they encounter are already "Christians."

It's cultural destruction, no matter what they call it.

Richard Casady wrote:
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:07:52 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

We do believe in the Bible, specifically the King James
version. We do however see the Book of Mormon as an additional text to
the bible

It is amazing how many different systems of belief you can base on one
text. People forget it was intended to be the Church of England's
private little book. It's greatness as literature must partly account
for it's widespread popularity. How you can take every word literally
is beyond me. The bible was written in Greek after all. My grandmother
could have read the original texts, but didn't. Four years of Greek
and Latin, Phi Beta Kappa at that, and never read a word of either
after graduation. Those keys are for winding a pocket watch by the
way. You carry both on the same chain.

Casady

The new testament was written in Greek. It is only part of what these
days is considered "the bible". Most of the Jewish bible was written in
Hebrew and Aramaic.

My personal view of the KJ bible is that it is a remarkable work of
poetic literature.

On Apr 23, 8:46*am, wrote:
On Apr 22, 9:14*pm, "SteveB" wrote:

Bzzzzztttttt. We do believe in the Bible, specifically the King James
version. We do however see the Book of Mormon as an additional text to
the bible, as with the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great
Price.. But like you, and I can see that you are open minded, I don't
care to discuss it with the bigotshere...

One of the articles of faith in Mormonism is: *"We believe in the bible as
far as it is correctly translated." *That allows throwing out anything that
contradicts Mormondom.

Geeze, I spent ten years in the Church and never heard anything about
this. We did however spend two years studying the bible.. Can you cite
this or is it must more...???



The "historical" underpinnings of the Book of Mormon transcend the
bizarre.

Which book of Mormon are you referring to? *There has been scores of
versions, revised from the previous to make up for some error. *If it is
prophesy, there are no errors. *Bibles have different "versions", but they
don't rewrite things they disagree with.

Scores of versions.. Hey, this is getting better all the time Can
you cite this or is it just..??

Geeze, I spent ten years in the Church and never heard anything
about
this.

That's because you were tied-up and gagged for bad behaviour, and
shoved down the stairs.