On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:03:47 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:09:00 -0700, Frogwatch wrote:

"In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico
submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing. Those 11,000 firearms were
part of the 29,000 firearms Mexican officials recovered at crime scenes.
According to the ATF, of the 11,000 submitted to U.S. officials for
tracing, 6,000 could be traced somewhere because of the serial numbers
or other distinctive markings. Of those 6,000 firearms, 5,114 or 90
percent, were found to have been smuggled from the U.S.

The White House stands by the president's use of the word "recovered" in
describing the role firearms smuggled from the U.S. play in Mexico's
drug war."

OK look at the numbers as any logical person would and you find that of
the 29,000 guns RECOVERED only 5114/29000 = 17.6% were from the USA.
Obama is simply to stupid to understand simple math.

LOL, you're doing pretty good with the lies and statistics yourself. Any
*logical* person would realize that because 5,114 guns were proven to be
from the US, doesn't mean the rest weren't from the US.


Why do you suppose only 11,000 of the 29,000 recovered guns were given
to the ATF? Could it be because the country of origin was not the USA?

Does the fact that only 5114 guns were proven to come from the USA
give Obama the right to make the 90% claim?

I will give you that we aren't the only manufacturers of guns, but
regardless of the percentage, there is a major drug war going on in
Mexico, with many Americans and Mexicans being slaughtered. That should
be what's important, but instead you whine about a "lie". So, what are
the GOPs chances in 2010? ROTFLMAO

The post had to do with the lies of our President. It's interesting to
note that the alleged Bush 'lies' about Iraq got so much attention of
you liberals, but the obvious lies of the current President give you
only chuckles.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson

On Apr 24, 9:02*pm, John H wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:03:47 -0500, thunder
wrote:





On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:09:00 -0700, Frogwatch wrote:

"In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico
submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing. Those 11,000 firearms were
part of the 29,000 firearms Mexican officials recovered at crime scenes.
According to the ATF, of the 11,000 submitted to U.S. officials for
tracing, 6,000 could be traced somewhere because of the serial numbers
or other distinctive markings. Of those 6,000 firearms, 5,114 or 90
percent, were found to have been smuggled from the U.S.

The White House stands by the president's use of the word "recovered" in
describing the role firearms smuggled from the U.S. play in Mexico's
drug war."

OK look at the numbers as any logical person would and you find that of
the 29,000 guns RECOVERED only 5114/29000 = 17.6% were from the USA.
Obama is simply to stupid to understand simple math.

LOL, you're doing pretty good with the lies and statistics yourself. *Any
*logical* person would realize that because 5,114 guns were proven to be
from the US, doesn't mean the rest weren't from the US. *

Why do you suppose only 11,000 of the 29,000 recovered guns were given
to the ATF? Could it be because the country of origin was not the USA?

Does the fact that only 5114 guns were proven to come from the USA
give Obama the right to make the 90% claim?

I will give you that we aren't the only manufacturers of guns, but
regardless of the percentage, there is a major drug war going on in
Mexico, with many Americans and Mexicans being slaughtered. *That should
be what's important, but instead you whine about a "lie". *So, what are
the GOPs chances in 2010? *ROTFLMAO

The post had to do with the lies of our President. It's interesting to
note that the alleged Bush 'lies' about Iraq got so much attention of
you liberals, but the obvious lies of the current President give you
only chuckles.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Obama lied, period...

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:02:18 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Apr 24, 9:02*pm, John H wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:03:47 -0500, thunder
wrote:





On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:09:00 -0700, Frogwatch wrote:

"In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico
submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing. Those 11,000 firearms were
part of the 29,000 firearms Mexican officials recovered at crime scenes.
According to the ATF, of the 11,000 submitted to U.S. officials for
tracing, 6,000 could be traced somewhere because of the serial numbers
or other distinctive markings. Of those 6,000 firearms, 5,114 or 90
percent, were found to have been smuggled from the U.S.

The White House stands by the president's use of the word "recovered" in
describing the role firearms smuggled from the U.S. play in Mexico's
drug war."

OK look at the numbers as any logical person would and you find that of
the 29,000 guns RECOVERED only 5114/29000 = 17.6% were from the USA.
Obama is simply to stupid to understand simple math.

LOL, you're doing pretty good with the lies and statistics yourself. *Any
*logical* person would realize that because 5,114 guns were proven to be
from the US, doesn't mean the rest weren't from the US. *

Why do you suppose only 11,000 of the 29,000 recovered guns were given
to the ATF? Could it be because the country of origin was not the USA?

Does the fact that only 5114 guns were proven to come from the USA
give Obama the right to make the 90% claim?

I will give you that we aren't the only manufacturers of guns, but
regardless of the percentage, there is a major drug war going on in
Mexico, with many Americans and Mexicans being slaughtered. *That should
be what's important, but instead you whine about a "lie". *So, what are
the GOPs chances in 2010? *ROTFLMAO

The post had to do with the lies of our President. It's interesting to
note that the alleged Bush 'lies' about Iraq got so much attention of
you liberals, but the obvious lies of the current President give you
only chuckles.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Obama lied, period...

If there's one thing I've learned about most liberals, it's that
integrity, to them, is a meaningless concept. Of course, that gets
proven over and over again right here!
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson

wrote:
On Apr 24, 9:02 pm, John H wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:03:47 -0500, thunder
wrote:





On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:09:00 -0700, Frogwatch wrote:
"In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico
submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing. Those 11,000 firearms were
part of the 29,000 firearms Mexican officials recovered at crime scenes.
According to the ATF, of the 11,000 submitted to U.S. officials for
tracing, 6,000 could be traced somewhere because of the serial numbers
or other distinctive markings. Of those 6,000 firearms, 5,114 or 90
percent, were found to have been smuggled from the U.S.
The White House stands by the president's use of the word "recovered" in
describing the role firearms smuggled from the U.S. play in Mexico's
drug war."
OK look at the numbers as any logical person would and you find that of
the 29,000 guns RECOVERED only 5114/29000 = 17.6% were from the USA.
Obama is simply to stupid to understand simple math.
LOL, you're doing pretty good with the lies and statistics yourself. Any
*logical* person would realize that because 5,114 guns were proven to be
from the US, doesn't mean the rest weren't from the US.

Why do you suppose only 11,000 of the 29,000 recovered guns were given
to the ATF? Could it be because the country of origin was not the USA?

Does the fact that only 5114 guns were proven to come from the USA
give Obama the right to make the 90% claim?

I will give you that we aren't the only manufacturers of guns, but
regardless of the percentage, there is a major drug war going on in
Mexico, with many Americans and Mexicans being slaughtered. That should
be what's important, but instead you whine about a "lie". So, what are
the GOPs chances in 2010? ROTFLMAO
The post had to do with the lies of our President. It's interesting to
note that the alleged Bush 'lies' about Iraq got so much attention of
you liberals, but the obvious lies of the current President give you
only chuckles.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Obama lied, period...


Herring the racist is still here?
Wonderful.