Interesting prospective on the UAW...

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1366...e?source=yahoo

Uh oh. That will get a nasty retort from the apologist of all things
union-labeled, also known as Hairy Kraut.


"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Interesting prospective on the UAW...

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1366...e?source=yahoo

Eisboch wrote:

Interesting prospective on the UAW...

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1366...e?source=yahoo



It is always fun to read the right-wingers' rationalizations as to why
the working man and woman should be paid ****, with no benefits. Serfdom
uber alles, eh?

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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That would be $8 an hour *without* any health care coverage, without
any pension, without any fringes, and in an unhealthy, really
dangerous workplace.

Workers, after all, exist only to increase the wealth of the rich.
That's part of the Republican credo. :)


You really can sling it.

None of those conditions exist, haven't for a long time and you know it.
It's simply the union mantra.

Eisboch


Yeah, they do exist. There are plenty of places that pay **** an hour,
are unsafe, and offer no health care coverage or any other fringes. Get
out and smell the chemicals.

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:

Interesting prospective on the UAW...

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1366...e?source=yahoo


It is always fun to read the right-wingers' rationalizations as to why the
working man and woman should be paid ****, with no benefits. Serfdom uber
alles, eh?



Why is that?

Seems like when you cannot directly contradict or debate facts you default
to a generalized, "right-winger" attack.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Interesting prospective on the UAW...

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1366...e?source=yahoo

I think he overstates the CAW/UAW in holding any cards. They are holding a
bluff hand.

Bond holders hold the cards. Lets see how they play them. Even the
Chrylser deal is at risk as not all bond holders have been suckered into
pennies on the dollar.

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:

Interesting prospective on the UAW...

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1366...e?source=yahoo


It is always fun to read the right-wingers' rationalizations as to why the
working man and woman should be paid ****, with no benefits. Serfdom uber
alles, eh?

It does show that the union extorted quite well for its members. But now
the golden goose is mortally sick.

Don't worry though, they are concocking plans to get taxpayers moneys, and
it does not mater morally, ethically or otherwise that most of the taxpayers
make less, many don't even have a pension.

Playing right in the hands of the private equity that stands to make
billions on bailouts as they hold a lot of GM paper.

It is about greed, corruption...at the cost of taxpayers.

"Mike" wrote in message
news

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Interesting prospective on the UAW...

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1366...e?source=yahoo

I'd told my father in law for years that the UAW would kill the auto
industry. He's retired GM UAW. When he was working, we'd get into huge
arguments when they were undergoing contract "negotiations." All I heard
was the union rhetoric... "we want, we want, we want." They completely
lost sight of the fact that they had a JOB! And a well paying job at
that... yet they wanted more. He has admitted now, that he's lucky that he
is retired.

--Mike

Unions could not survive without the development of discontent and fostering
the growth of greed. Hate to say it, but they are about bullying people and
companies. Sort of like mini organised maffia of sorts.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

Interesting prospective on the UAW...

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1366...e?source=yahoo

I think he overstates the CAW/UAW in holding any cards. They are holding
a bluff hand.

Bond holders hold the cards. Lets see how they play them. Even the
Chrylser deal is at risk as not all bond holders have been suckered into
pennies on the dollar.


You are not up to date. The Chrysler bond holder ranks thinned and then
those that remained threw in the towel due to political pressure brought on
by Obama inspired negative public opinion.
This was late last week.

GM's bond holders are facing the same public opinion problem. Only
difference is that there are many more of them.

Eisboch

wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2009 12:13:43 -0400, HK wrote:

It will all come down to that "ban the secret ballot" law.
If the feds can get around state right to work laws the UAW might
succeed in destroying the whole US auto industry and sending all of
the plants to Mexico.

Ah, yes...those state "Right to Work for Less" laws the right wing uses
to make sure workers are no more than serfs.


... as opposed to those "card check" states where a union goon
supervises the workers decision to join? ;-)


Gee, I've been working with labor unions since the 1970s, and have been
involved in, literally, dozens of union representation elections. I've
yet to see anyone on the union side exerting even the amount of pressure
employers exert to sway the election.