Eisboch wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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Moderate conservatives? You mean the ones who only *listen* to
Rush, Sean, O'Reilly & Beck and nod their heads in approval,
instead of rushing out to kill doctors, blow up clinics, and make
idiotic comments about judge nominees?



Give me a break. In other words, unless I subscribe to the liberal
thinking of you and jps, I am automatically "one of them". Talk
about shallow, narrow minds.

I know that both of you are smarter than that. Both of you should
throw away your talking point notes and start speaking for
yourselves, using your own brains.

Eisboch




"Moderate" conservative. snerk


Like I suggested , .... oh, never mind. Your too programmed.

Eisboch

Ok, ok. "You're"

BTW ....

You crack me up. A while back ... year or so ago ... when we could
discuss things more rationally,
you identified me as a "moderate" conservative with whom you didn't have
a major problem with in terms of political viewpoints.

But now, according to you and your puppy, I am a bible thumping, far
right, knuckle dragging Neanderthal, a relic from the dark ages.

What happened? I haven't changed a bit.

Eisboch


Your party has. I didn't say you were a bible-thumping, far-right,
whatever. But that is what is controlling your party. What I am
snickering at now are you attempts to move away from what your party has
become by describing yourself as a "moderate" conservative. According to
your party, you a a RINO, something they want to be rid of...

It's not you...it's your party.

You might be happier with the Libertarians, although they seem to be
going through another crazy period.

Ain't politics fun?


My mother, a lifelong Republican from Boston, would have never tolerated
what her grand old GOP has become. She was a very minor political
functionary in our home county, and would have raised holy hell at local
meetings if that GOP had descended into today's GOP.

"HK" wrote in message
m...


I'm just laughing at your attempt to differentiate yourself from the
"mainstream" of your crazed political party and its crazier beliefs.
Your party is under the control of lunatics, Richard. Unless you are
prepared to fight them tooth and nail, and use proven community organizing
techniques to push it back towards the center, you will live long enough
to see it die and be buried.

If I might, I suggest you read Saul Alinsky's books, learn the lessons,
and work with others of moderation to co-opt the right wing radicals in
charge of the GOP, marginalize them, and work to create a political party
whose greatest appeal is NOT to southern white men.


A. I am not a Republican. I am a conservative.
B. I am not interested, or even pretend to think I can change the world.
I believe in thinking for yourself and allowing others to think for
themselves.
C. Apparently to you and other liberals, if I am not actively denouncing
the viewpoints
of the far right, I must be one of them. Your thinking has narrowed.

Eisboch

"HK" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:


You crack me up. A while back ... year or so ago ... when we could
discuss things more rationally,
you identified me as a "moderate" conservative with whom you didn't have
a major problem with in terms of political viewpoints.

But now, according to you and your puppy, I am a bible thumping, far
right, knuckle dragging Neanderthal, a relic from the dark ages.

What happened? I haven't changed a bit.

Eisboch


Your party has. I didn't say you were a bible-thumping, far-right,
whatever. But that is what is controlling your party. What I am snickering
at now are you attempts to move away from what your party has become by
describing yourself as a "moderate" conservative. According to your party,
you a a RINO, something they want to be rid of...

It's not you...it's your party.


Repeating my comment in another post, it's not "my" party. I am not a
Republican.
I am not a Democrat. I think for myself. My viewpoints may not always be
correct or well thought out, but I don't automatically subscribe to any
political party's agenda.

I am of a conservative bent and believe in many of the Republican
philosophies but often also embrace Democratic and yes, even some "liberal"
ideas.

You purebred liberals are having a field day right now because you have
conveniently lumped all Republicans into one category. Yes, it's fun, but
it's not truthful. That has been the point I've tried to make several
times. There are more liberals making noise about Rush than most of us
with more conservative viewpoints. I understand the purpose. It's just
not honest.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...

Moderate conservatives? You mean the ones who only *listen* to
Rush, Sean, O'Reilly & Beck and nod their heads in approval,
instead of rushing out to kill doctors, blow up clinics, and make
idiotic comments about judge nominees?



Give me a break. In other words, unless I subscribe to the liberal
thinking of you and jps, I am automatically "one of them". Talk
about shallow, narrow minds.

I know that both of you are smarter than that. Both of you should
throw away your talking point notes and start speaking for
yourselves, using your own brains.

Eisboch




"Moderate" conservative. snerk


Like I suggested , .... oh, never mind. Your too programmed.

Eisboch

Ok, ok. "You're"

BTW ....

You crack me up. A while back ... year or so ago ... when we could
discuss things more rationally,
you identified me as a "moderate" conservative with whom you didn't have
a major problem with in terms of political viewpoints.

But now, according to you and your puppy, I am a bible thumping, far
right, knuckle dragging Neanderthal, a relic from the dark ages.

What happened? I haven't changed a bit.

Eisboch

According to Harry, you were a Righteous Rightie, while those more
liberal than you, were RepubliNazi's.

Don't try to understand Don, JPS or Harry, it is impossible.

Have you figures out what Flat Shiny Object you need to visit for an
examination?

--
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.

This Newsgroup post is a natural product. The slight variations in
spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in
no way are to be considered flaws or defects

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:


You crack me up. A while back ... year or so ago ... when we could
discuss things more rationally,
you identified me as a "moderate" conservative with whom you didn't
have a major problem with in terms of political viewpoints.

But now, according to you and your puppy, I am a bible thumping, far
right, knuckle dragging Neanderthal, a relic from the dark ages.

What happened? I haven't changed a bit.

Eisboch


Your party has. I didn't say you were a bible-thumping, far-right,
whatever. But that is what is controlling your party. What I am
snickering at now are you attempts to move away from what your party
has become by describing yourself as a "moderate" conservative.
According to your party, you a a RINO, something they want to be rid
of...

It's not you...it's your party.


Repeating my comment in another post, it's not "my" party. I am not a
Republican.
I am not a Democrat. I think for myself. My viewpoints may not
always be correct or well thought out, but I don't automatically
subscribe to any political party's agenda.

I am of a conservative bent and believe in many of the Republican
philosophies but often also embrace Democratic and yes, even some
"liberal" ideas.

You purebred liberals are having a field day right now because you have
conveniently lumped all Republicans into one category. Yes, it's fun,
but it's not truthful. That has been the point I've tried to make
several times. There are more liberals making noise about Rush than
most of us with more conservative viewpoints. I understand the
purpose. It's just not honest.

Eisboch

You are either "with him or against him". According to Harry, the world
is black and white, there is no gray

--
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.

This Newsgroup post is a natural product. The slight variations in
spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in
no way are to be considered flaws or defects

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in
message ...

Don't try to understand Don, JPS or Harry, it is impossible.

Have you figures out what Flat Shiny Object you need to visit for an
examination?



Yes. He's very familiar with the image.

Eisboch

On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 06:21:47 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

I now understand why you like to limit your normal posts to "you silly
little ****" and "you ****ing asshole" type comments. I almost hate to
say it, but you should probably limited yourself to them.

Are you holding yourself out as an example of what you preach?

You add so little value and expect so much. Sorry Ruggie, no sale.

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 07:08:35 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


jps wrote:

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 00:46:56 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


I can't stand that Air America and MSNBC is paying him any mind.

I had to turn it off. Listening to him makes me ill and it's a
tremendous waste of time and energy. It's time to ignore him so we
can focus on what needs to be accomplished.



That's about the most intelligent statement you have made in a long
time.
Most moderate conservatives have know that for years. It's encouraging
to
see some of you liberals catching up.

Eisboch



By your standards. I don't live by your standards.

But, it should make you consider that you're way the hell to the
right and need a little adjustment.



I am "way the hell to the right" because I don't subscribe to Rush's
ranting (or even listen to him)?
You are in another dimension pal.

My point is that liberals seem to make a bigger deal and listen to him more
than moderate conservatives. Try again.

Eisboch

I don't care whether you listen to Rush. However, he is driving the
"conservative" message. The conservative dialogue involves fringe
players and has beens from the past like Newt.

The right's lunacy is a tool used to attract attention from the left
and keep the agenda on partisanship rather than solutions.

The leaders of your movement are a bunch of second-rate hacks and the
dems aren't much better but we've got real problems to solve and all
the Rs can do is shoot arrows.

****ing ridiculous. If this were 2003, we'd be accusing conservatives
of providing aid and comfort to the enemy and guilty of sedition.

All your buddy Tom can do is carp. Where's the constructive criticism
of a real "worthy opponent?"

Missing in action.

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 08:19:15 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"I'm not a Republican" is a matra being repeated across the country by
tens of millions who don't want to associate with a party of losers.

When it comes to voting, they're Republicans.

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 07:29:31 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Give me a break. In other words, unless I subscribe to the liberal
thinking of you and jps, I am automatically "one of them". Talk about
shallow, narrow minds.

Psst - there's a name for guys like Jon and Harry.

big·ot – noun - a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing
creed, belief, or opinion.

I know that both of you are smarter than that.

There's your first mistake.

Both of you should throw away your talking point notes and
start speaking for yourselves, using your own brains.

Here's another word for you.

prej·u·diced – noun - an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed
beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason - any preconceived
opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable - unreasonable
feelings, opinions, or attitudes, esp. of a hostile nature, regarding
a racial, religious, or national group.

When you think about it - it's pretty much "hate speech".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech

Funny how all this works huh?