On Jun 9, 7:00*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Johnson" wrote in message

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Ummm, I was responding to Eisboch who made a statement about commercial
mowers vs. residential mowers.

While I am inclined to agree with you that in HK's world, everything he
possesses is special, better, and more liberal than yours and mine, I
truly am interested in whether commercial mowers spin their blades faster
than residential ones.

Johnson

Despite your shade tree mechanics opinions, I can assure you that they do..
I have a friend who has a similar designed residential rated mower. *(these
are the type
that you operate like a Bobcat. *Your sit on it and drive it with two levers
that control hydraulic motors).

His doesn't come close to the Scag. *You can tell just by the sound and by
how finely it chops up the clippings. *Plus, I can go through foot high
grass and the mower doesn't miss a beat. * His would stall.

Eisboch

My nephew mows a lot of yards and cemetery's he has a big X-mark with
I think a 28 hp v-2 Kawasaki. It's a yard chopping speedster.

I have a'47 8-N ford with a PTO driven Woods RM-59 mower, Even though
my folks aren't living, i still keep the property (about 4 acres)
mowed. it got away from me this year because of all the rain, so my
brother brought down his John Deere 4020 with a bush hog and knocked
it down first. Then I was able to take care of it with the 8-N/Woods.

Poor 8-N's. the PTO drive is a joke and It won't take down foot
tall without bogging and squalling the belt, but once down. Even
though my nephews Xmark will blow right by it, the 8-N/Woods mows
well for maintenance.

He's the one who recommended that I buy a commercial
mower for the purpose I needed (mowing large horse paddocks).

Why aren't the horses doing that? ;-) When our family had a horse farm up in
Pepperell, MA, I don't recall ever having to cut the grass in the paddocks.
The other areas grew long on purpose, and we only cut twice/year for hay.

--Mike

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Johnson" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

Something I found out about commercial rated versus residential types.

A few years back I bought a Scag commercial mower. The difference is
the blade tip speed.
Residential type mowers are restricted by federal regulations to some
maximum tip speed at full throttle.

Commercial types are not, and the tip speed of the blade is typically
much higher. Makes for better cuts and smaller mulch.

Eisboch



Just curious where you heard this.

I checked today with with my lawn mower repair shop, a place with some
old grease monkeys who've been around awhile. They said it's not true.
Said it was an internet rumor.

Johnson


Scag dealer and also confirmed by our landscaper who obviously only buys
commercial equipment. He's the one who recommended that I buy a
commercial mower for the purpose I needed (mowing large horse paddocks).

The residential tip speed limit is a federal regulation. I forget what it
is exactly, but something like 1750 feet/min rings a bell.

Eisboch

"mgg" wrote in message
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He's the one who recommended that I buy a commercial
mower for the purpose I needed (mowing large horse paddocks).

Why aren't the horses doing that? ;-) When our family had a horse farm up
in Pepperell, MA, I don't recall ever having to cut the grass in the
paddocks. The other areas grew long on purpose, and we only cut twice/year
for hay.

--Mike

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Johnson" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

Something I found out about commercial rated versus residential types.

A few years back I bought a Scag commercial mower. The difference is
the blade tip speed.
Residential type mowers are restricted by federal regulations to some
maximum tip speed at full throttle.

Commercial types are not, and the tip speed of the blade is typically
much higher. Makes for better cuts and smaller mulch.

Eisboch



Just curious where you heard this.

I checked today with with my lawn mower repair shop, a place with some
old grease monkeys who've been around awhile. They said it's not true.
Said it was an internet rumor.

Johnson


Scag dealer and also confirmed by our landscaper who obviously only buys
commercial equipment. He's the one who recommended that I buy a
commercial mower for the purpose I needed (mowing large horse paddocks).

The residential tip speed limit is a federal regulation. I forget what
it is exactly, but something like 1750 feet/min rings a bell.

Eisboch



Federal standards go on forever on mower safety issues, including this:

"(ix) The maximum tip speed of any blade shall be 19,000 feet per minute."

Do we live in a nanny state or what?

On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:58:39 -0700, "mgg" wrote:

He's the one who recommended that I buy a commercial
mower for the purpose I needed (mowing large horse paddocks).

Why aren't the horses doing that? ;-) When our family had a horse farm up in
Pepperell, MA, I don't recall ever having to cut the grass in the paddocks.
The other areas grew long on purpose, and we only cut twice/year for hay.

--Mike

A friend in a "rural" area had about 3 acres of grass.
2 goats kept it trimmed.
Don't remember the details. Might have been more or less acreage,
and maybe it was camels.
But there were 2 of them.

--Vic

"mgg" wrote in message
...

He's the one who recommended that I buy a commercial
mower for the purpose I needed (mowing large horse paddocks).

Why aren't the horses doing that? ;-) When our family had a horse farm up
in Pepperell, MA, I don't recall ever having to cut the grass in the
paddocks. The other areas grew long on purpose, and we only cut twice/year
for hay.

--Mike


When we first moved here, Mrs.E. didn't use all three paddocks, so I used to
mow a couple of them if the grass got too tall.

At first I tried with the big tractor and the mower attachment that mounts
on the rear 3 point hitch.
It was a pain trying to get into the corners of the fenced paddock, so I
removed the rear leveling wheel. Then it scalped the ground here and there.
So then I bought a used John Deere lawn tractor. It just wasn't powerful
enough to cut the grass if it grew too high.

That's when I got the Scag. It handles pretty much anything.

Eisboch

On Jun 9, 10:14*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jun 9, 7:00*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:





"Johnson" wrote in message

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Ummm, I was responding to Eisboch who made a statement about commercial
mowers vs. residential mowers.

While I am inclined to agree with you that in HK's world, everything he
possesses is special, better, and more liberal than yours and mine, I
truly am interested in whether commercial mowers spin their blades faster
than residential ones.

Johnson

Despite your shade tree mechanics opinions, I can assure you that they do.
I have a friend who has a similar designed residential rated mower. *(these
are the type
that you operate like a Bobcat. *Your sit on it and drive it with two levers
that control hydraulic motors).

His doesn't come close to the Scag. *You can tell just by the sound and by
how finely it chops up the clippings. *Plus, I can go through foot high
grass and the mower doesn't miss a beat. * His would stall.

Eisboch

My nephew mows a lot of yards and cemetery's he has a big X-mark with
I think a 28 hp v-2 Kawasaki. It's a yard chopping speedster.

I have a'47 8-N ford with a PTO driven Woods RM-59 *mower, Even though
my folks aren't living, i still keep the property (about 4 acres)
mowed. it got away from me this year because of all the rain, so my
brother brought down his John Deere 4020 with a bush hog and knocked
it down first. Then I was able to take care of it with the 8-N/Woods.

Poor 8-N's. * * the PTO drive is a joke and It won't take down foot
tall without bogging and squalling the belt, but once down. Even
though my nephews Xmark will blow right by it, the 8-N/Woods *mows
well for *maintenance.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I LOVE my Ford 8n! If the belt is squalling that's nothing to do with
the PTO.

On Jun 10, 7:33*am, wrote:
On Jun 9, 10:14*pm, Tim wrote:



On Jun 9, 7:00*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Johnson" wrote in message

news

Ummm, I was responding to Eisboch who made a statement about commercial
mowers vs. residential mowers.

While I am inclined to agree with you that in HK's world, everything he
possesses is special, better, and more liberal than yours and mine, I
truly am interested in whether commercial mowers spin their blades faster
than residential ones.

Johnson

Despite your shade tree mechanics opinions, I can assure you that they do.
I have a friend who has a similar designed residential rated mower. *(these
are the type
that you operate like a Bobcat. *Your sit on it and drive it with two levers
that control hydraulic motors).

His doesn't come close to the Scag. *You can tell just by the sound and by
how finely it chops up the clippings. *Plus, I can go through foot high
grass and the mower doesn't miss a beat. * His would stall.

Eisboch

My nephew mows a lot of yards and cemetery's he has a big X-mark with
I think a 28 hp v-2 Kawasaki. It's a yard chopping speedster.

I have a'47 8-N ford with a PTO driven Woods RM-59 *mower, Even though
my folks aren't living, i still keep the property (about 4 acres)
mowed. it got away from me this year because of all the rain, so my
brother brought down his John Deere 4020 with a bush hog and knocked
it down first. Then I was able to take care of it with the 8-N/Woods.

Poor 8-N's. * * the PTO drive is a joke and It won't take down foot
tall without bogging and squalling the belt, but once down. Even
though my nephews Xmark will blow right by it, the 8-N/Woods *mows
well for *maintenance.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I LOVE my Ford 8n! If the belt is squalling that's nothing to do with
the PTO.

No, The belt I'm talking about is on the Woods Mower itself, not the
water pump.

The mower has a HUGE belt that wraps around a large drive wheel for
the blades. Here's an example, Loog. Actually I think it's kind of a
silly design, but hey. You run what you brung....

http://media.photobucket.com/image/w...a/P1070138.jpg

On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:27:07 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

No, The belt I'm talking about is on the Woods Mower itself, not the
water pump.

The mower has a HUGE belt that wraps around a large drive wheel for
the blades. Here's an example, Loog. Actually I think it's kind of a
silly design, but hey. You run what you brung....

I have seen two 8-N with mowers. Five foot long single blade with a 90
degree gearbox and a shaft to the tractor. Hit a car axle with one. It
was a disused horseshoe stake in tall grass. Broke something cheap in
the gearbox. Maybe a shear pin. Nick like half a nickel in the blade.
BMB 'Brute' it was called.

Casady

On Jun 10, 9:27*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jun 10, 7:33*am, wrote:





On Jun 9, 10:14*pm, Tim wrote:

On Jun 9, 7:00*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Johnson" wrote in message

news

Ummm, I was responding to Eisboch who made a statement about commercial
mowers vs. residential mowers.

While I am inclined to agree with you that in HK's world, everything he
possesses is special, better, and more liberal than yours and mine, I
truly am interested in whether commercial mowers spin their blades faster
than residential ones.

Johnson

Despite your shade tree mechanics opinions, I can assure you that they do.
I have a friend who has a similar designed residential rated mower. *(these
are the type
that you operate like a Bobcat. *Your sit on it and drive it with two levers
that control hydraulic motors).

His doesn't come close to the Scag. *You can tell just by the sound and by
how finely it chops up the clippings. *Plus, I can go through foot high
grass and the mower doesn't miss a beat. * His would stall.

Eisboch

My nephew mows a lot of yards and cemetery's he has a big X-mark with
I think a 28 hp v-2 Kawasaki. It's a yard chopping speedster.

I have a'47 8-N ford with a PTO driven Woods RM-59 *mower, Even though
my folks aren't living, i still keep the property (about 4 acres)
mowed. it got away from me this year because of all the rain, so my
brother brought down his John Deere 4020 with a bush hog and knocked
it down first. Then I was able to take care of it with the 8-N/Woods.

Poor 8-N's. * * the PTO drive is a joke and It won't take down foot
tall without bogging and squalling the belt, but once down. Even
though my nephews Xmark will blow right by it, the 8-N/Woods *mows
well for *maintenance.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I LOVE my Ford 8n! If the belt is squalling that's nothing to do with
the PTO.

No, The belt I'm talking about is on the Woods Mower itself, not the
water pump.

The mower has a HUGE belt that wraps around a large drive wheel for
the blades. Here's an example, Loog. *Actually I think it's kind of a
silly design, but hey. You run what you brung....

http://media.photobucket.com/image/w...stuba/P107...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's a strange thing. Mine just has a driveshaft with universals at
each end. No belt.