On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:48:34 -0400, Jim24242
wrote:

HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:41:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jun 20, 8:30 am, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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Anybody watch "River Monsters" last night? It was on the Wells
catfish. with some of these monsters being well over 200 lb. the
biggest the guy caught was in Spain and it weighed 177 lb. Once it was
pulled on shore it seemed rather docil and harmless, but once it was
gently taken back into the water, the thing snapped around like it was
going to take the guys leg off.
the guy doing the fishing said it was quite possible that these things
could actually eat a human baby as ancient folklore had said.
I couldn't believe those huge filets being tuned loose. *Sniff*
Yeah, but who's got a cast iron skillet that big?
You have a point there.Besides that it would probably take the fun out
of fishing.

at 157 -200 Lb.?

One catch and you have a freezer full.

The boys in Louisiana "grab" them. They wade along the edges of the
banks feeling for them up under the lip and drag them out by hand.
Sometimes it takes a couple guys to rassle them up onto the bank.
I guess they grab a gator now and then, that is why guys have names
like "Lefty" and "Stumpy".



It's evolution in action, as there are many "biting" critters that make
use of the holes under river banks, including snakes. I have no idea how
many guys are drowned, seriously bitten, or otherwise made less relevant
by "noodling," but however many it is, their demise helps raise the
general level of intelligence for future births.

Fillets, chunks, steaks, et cetera, from really big fish sometimes taste
terrible or are as tough as leather, or both. Is it safe to assume this
is not the case with giant catfish?

P.S. If you are going to freeze fish for any significant length of time,
you might as well buy Mrs. Paul's fish sticks. Vacuum bagging and then
freezing can be worthwhile, though.

Ah Ha Our own resident fish monger educates about fish. Is iced down
fresh off the boat better and fresher than fish properly processed and
packaged at sea?

Mr. Science strikes again.

Here comes the explanation that he only goes to local fish markets run
by crusty old women fish mongers and picks out the best catch of the
day from local fishermen.

3 - 2 - 1...

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:43:15 -0400, DK wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:41:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jun 20, 8:30 am, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

... Anybody watch "River Monsters" last night? It was on the Wells
catfish. with some of these monsters being well over 200 lb. the
biggest the guy caught was in Spain and it weighed 177 lb. Once it was
pulled on shore it seemed rather docil and harmless, but once it was
gently taken back into the water, the thing snapped around like it was
going to take the guys leg off.
the guy doing the fishing said it was quite possible that these things
could actually eat a human baby as ancient folklore had said.
I couldn't believe those huge filets being tuned loose. *Sniff*
Yeah, but who's got a cast iron skillet that big?
You have a point there.Besides that it would probably take the fun out
of fishing.

at 157 -200 Lb.?

One catch and you have a freezer full.

The boys in Louisiana "grab" them. They wade along the edges of the
banks feeling for them up under the lip and drag them out by hand.
Sometimes it takes a couple guys to rassle them up onto the bank.
I guess they grab a gator now and then, that is why guys have names
like "Lefty" and "Stumpy".

They call it "noodling". Type it into YouTube and sit back...

Grappling is also an accepted term.

Nuts is what I call it. That's why God invented fishing poles.

By the by, if you ever want to do some cat fishing, drop me a line and
I'll give you my secret recipe for catfish bait - I've got a sure
fire, never miss concoction that will net some monster channel cats.

On Jun 21, 1:13*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:48:34 -0400, Jim24242
wrote:



HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:41:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jun 20, 8:30 am, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...
Anybody watch "River Monsters" last night? *It was on the Wells
catfish. with some of these monsters being well over 200 lb. *the
biggest the guy caught was in Spain and it weighed 177 lb. Once it was
pulled on shore it seemed rather docil and harmless, but once it was
gently taken back into the water, the thing snapped around like it was
going to take the guys leg off.
the guy doing the fishing said it was quite possible that these things
could actually eat a human baby as ancient folklore had said.
I couldn't believe those huge filets being tuned loose. **Sniff*
Yeah, but who's got a cast iron skillet that big?
You have a point there.Besides that it would probably take the fun out
of fishing.

at 157 -200 Lb.?

One catch and you have a freezer full.

The boys in Louisiana "grab" them. They wade along the edges of the
banks feeling for them up under the lip and drag them out by hand.
Sometimes it takes a couple guys to rassle them up onto the bank.
I guess they grab a gator now and then, that is why guys have names
like "Lefty" and "Stumpy".

It's evolution in action, as there are many "biting" critters that make
use of the holes under river banks, including snakes. I have no idea how
many guys are drowned, seriously bitten, or otherwise made less relevant
by "noodling," but however many it is, their demise helps raise the
general level of intelligence for future births.

Fillets, chunks, steaks, et cetera, from really big fish sometimes taste
terrible or are as tough as leather, or both. Is it safe to assume this
is not the case with giant catfish?

P.S. If you are going to freeze fish for any significant length of time,
you might as well buy Mrs. Paul's fish sticks. Vacuum bagging and then
freezing can be worthwhile, though.

Ah Ha Our own resident fish monger educates about fish. Is iced down
fresh off the boat better and fresher than fish properly processed and
packaged at sea?

Mr. Science strikes again.

Here comes the explanation that he only goes to local fish markets run
by crusty old women fish mongers and picks out the best catch of the
day from local fishermen.

3 - 2 - 1...

Speaking of woman fish mongers.

I just love the beauty of this pic. how the line is so graceful...


http://www.ireland-salmon-fishing.ne.../snakeroll.jpg

On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:23:01 -0700, Tim wrote:

Speaking of woman fish mongers.

I just love the beauty of this pic. how the line is so graceful...


http://www.ireland-salmon-fishing.ne.../snakeroll.jpg

Those long-ass rods are making a comeback over here in the states. With
their tides and shallow shores, I can understand needing a long rod for
surf-casting, but I'll be damned if I'd ever use such a long rod on the
rivers and lakes I fish. Still, with modern composites, spey rods do
well on big rivers or in windy conditions.

On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:26:51 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:23:01 -0700, Tim wrote:

Speaking of woman fish mongers.

I just love the beauty of this pic. how the line is so graceful...


http://www.ireland-salmon-fishing.ne.../snakeroll.jpg

Those long-ass rods are making a comeback over here in the states. With
their tides and shallow shores, I can understand needing a long rod for
surf-casting, but I'll be damned if I'd ever use such a long rod on the
rivers and lakes I fish. Still, with modern composites, spey rods do
well on big rivers or in windy conditions.

They are a bitch to handle though unless you've really had some
practice with them.

I have a couple that I built a few years back when I had this fit of
surf fishing fever. It's a very technique specific rod and line
handle.

They will throw a heavy streamer very well though and once you get the
hang of it it, incredibly precise.

On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:44:31 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:


http://www.ireland-salmon-fishing.ne.../snakeroll.jpg

Those long-ass rods are making a comeback over here in the states. With
their tides and shallow shores, I can understand needing a long rod for
surf-casting, but I'll be damned if I'd ever use such a long rod on the
rivers and lakes I fish. Still, with modern composites, spey rods do
well on big rivers or in windy conditions.

They are a bitch to handle though unless you've really had some practice
with them.

I have a couple that I built a few years back when I had this fit of
surf fishing fever. It's a very technique specific rod and line handle.

They will throw a heavy streamer very well though and once you get the
hang of it it, incredibly precise.

I've never fly fished with a rod over 10', but I used to do a fair bit of
surfcasting with longer rods. The Brits have a system of casting where
they get distances of 300 *yards*. They use a longer rod, 13-16', a
baitcasting reel, and a pendulum cast. I was trying to learn it, until
by rod exploded on a cast.

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:14:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:41:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jun 20, 8:30 am, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...
Anybody watch "River Monsters" last night? It was on the Wells
catfish. with some of these monsters being well over 200 lb. the
biggest the guy caught was in Spain and it weighed 177 lb. Once it
was
pulled on shore it seemed rather docil and harmless, but once it was
gently taken back into the water, the thing snapped around like it
was
going to take the guys leg off.

the guy doing the fishing said it was quite possible that these
things
could actually eat a human baby as ancient folklore had said.

I couldn't believe those huge filets being tuned loose. *Sniff*

Yeah, but who's got a cast iron skillet that big?

You have a point there.Besides that it would probably take the fun out
of fishing.

at 157 -200 Lb.?

One catch and you have a freezer full.

The boys in Louisiana "grab" them. They wade along the edges of the
banks feeling for them up under the lip and drag them out by hand.
Sometimes it takes a couple guys to rassle them up onto the bank.
I guess they grab a gator now and then, that is why guys have names
like "Lefty" and "Stumpy".

Snapping turtles too.

There have been a couple of drowning deaths reported using the
"grappling" or "noodling" method. Never wanted to try it myself.

We used to get catfish out of the tires that acted as bumpers on te docks.
The carfish would nest in them. But we do not have snapping turtles, and
the catfish may be a couple pounds size.

"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:44:31 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:


http://www.ireland-salmon-fishing.ne.../snakeroll.jpg

Those long-ass rods are making a comeback over here in the states. With
their tides and shallow shores, I can understand needing a long rod for
surf-casting, but I'll be damned if I'd ever use such a long rod on the
rivers and lakes I fish. Still, with modern composites, spey rods do
well on big rivers or in windy conditions.

They are a bitch to handle though unless you've really had some practice
with them.

I have a couple that I built a few years back when I had this fit of
surf fishing fever. It's a very technique specific rod and line handle.

They will throw a heavy streamer very well though and once you get the
hang of it it, incredibly precise.

I've never fly fished with a rod over 10', but I used to do a fair bit of
surfcasting with longer rods. The Brits have a system of casting where
they get distances of 300 *yards*. They use a longer rod, 13-16', a
baitcasting reel, and a pendulum cast. I was trying to learn it, until
by rod exploded on a cast.

The casting championship in San Francisco was always won with a long rod and
an Alvey reel. The guys in those days used line made from Parachute cords