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It seems that when in S. Fl last year I saw groups of "Blue-water
Battle wagons" lined up to take charter fisherman out to grab swordfish or whatever,and it seemed that the most popular boat I saw were mostly Cape Hatteras. Oh, several ChrisCrafts and various other names but mostly Hat's, especially in the 55-65+ foot range. Just from gawking around I know that a Hatteras is a very expensive boat, and usually hold their resale higher than competitive names in the same age and class regardless of the economy. OK, so-- what makes a Hatteras so special? Just curious. |
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:58:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: OK, so-- what makes a Hatteras so special? The firstest and bestest with a distinctive design (Carolina bow flare and a very slight tumble home at the stern) built of the finest materials by real craftsmen. They were built for the tough waters of North Carolina and developed a reputation for being a great fishing machine, smooth riding and very stable boats. They used to make smaller versions, but now they start at 55 foot I think - their first boat was a 41 footer. Always wanted one - never owned one. |
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On Jun 24, 7:16*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:58:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: OK, so-- what makes a Hatteras so special? The firstest and bestest with a distinctive design (Carolina bow flare and a very slight tumble home at the stern) built of the finest materials by real craftsmen. *They were built for the tough waters of North Carolina and developed a reputation for being a great fishing machine, smooth riding and very stable boats. They used to make smaller versions, but now they start at 55 foot I think - their first boat was a 41 footer. Always wanted one - never owned one. COOL! And thanks guys. Now I suppose something lse I was thinking of was that I wonder why nobody really tried to push for their market. "Lincoln v. Caddie" type idea. Or did somebody try to topple them but decided that the money was actually in the masses? |
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:58:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: It seems that when in S. Fl last year I saw groups of "Blue-water Battle wagons" lined up to take charter fisherman out to grab swordfish or whatever,and it seemed that the most popular boat I saw were mostly Cape Hatteras. Oh, several ChrisCrafts and various other names but mostly Hat's, especially in the 55-65+ foot range. Just from gawking around I know that a Hatteras is a very expensive boat, and usually hold their resale higher than competitive names in the same age and class regardless of the economy. OK, so-- what makes a Hatteras so special? Just curious. You mean besides the fact that Harry owned one? According to Harry, IIRC, they don't depreciate. |
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:58:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: OK, so-- what makes a Hatteras so special? Good design, good engineering, good construction, nicely finished. Other than that, nothing special. :-) Hatteras and Bertram both fell victim to the ill advised 10% boat luxury tax of 1990. It drove construction overseas for a while and mass produced, high quality boat building in this country never fully recovered. http://www.nytimes.com/1991/01/03/opinion/l-boat-luxury-tax-drives-an-industry-aground-926091.html North Carolina still has a lot of specialty builders making very good boats but they are mostly custom or semi-custom. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=north+carolina+custom+boat+builders &meta=&aq=f&oq= |
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:00:15 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:58:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: OK, so-- what makes a Hatteras so special? Good design, good engineering, good construction, nicely finished. Other than that, nothing special. :-) Hatteras and Bertram both fell victim to the ill advised 10% boat luxury tax of 1990. It drove construction overseas for a while and mass produced, high quality boat building in this country never fully recovered. The Ted Kennedy Tax - killed most of RI's builders too. |
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:20:55 -0400, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:00:15 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:58:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: OK, so-- what makes a Hatteras so special? Good design, good engineering, good construction, nicely finished. Other than that, nothing special. :-) Hatteras and Bertram both fell victim to the ill advised 10% boat luxury tax of 1990. It drove construction overseas for a while and mass produced, high quality boat building in this country never fully recovered. The Ted Kennedy Tax - killed most of RI's builders too. Good old Ted, should have stuck to driving around Chapaquidick at night. |
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On Jun 24, 9:00*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:58:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: OK, so-- what makes a Hatteras so special? Good design, good engineering, good construction, nicely finished. Other than that, nothing special. * *:-) Hatteras and Bertram both fell victim to the ill advised 10% boat luxury tax of 1990. * It drove construction overseas for a while and mass produced, high quality boat building in this country never fully recovered. Bad deal in more than just boats, but that's another story I suppose. I see from the Brunswick website that Hatteras got sucked into their lair about 2001, so evidently the 90's was cruel to them... |
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On Jun 24, 7:16*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:58:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: OK, so-- what makes a Hatteras so special? The firstest and bestest with a distinctive design (Carolina bow flare and a very slight tumble home at the stern) built of the finest materials by real craftsmen. *They were built for the tough waters of North Carolina and developed a reputation for being a great fishing machine, smooth riding and very stable boats. They used to make smaller versions, but now they start at 55 foot I think - their first boat was a 41 footer. Always wanted one - never owned one. When I saw a Hat for the first time that was the obvious part I noticed was the "Carolina bow flare" and that laid back "Eldorado Caddie" look. I thought it was a beautiful design. Not only aesthetically smart, but just as functional too. |
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:20:55 -0400, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:00:15 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:58:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: OK, so-- what makes a Hatteras so special? Good design, good engineering, good construction, nicely finished. Other than that, nothing special. :-) Hatteras and Bertram both fell victim to the ill advised 10% boat luxury tax of 1990. It drove construction overseas for a while and mass produced, high quality boat building in this country never fully recovered. The Ted Kennedy Tax - killed most of RI's builders too. According to this it was Bush 1 and Dan Rostenkowski. You can buy the DVD. Think they got Rostenkowski later on for stealing postage stamps. Massively lowered the cap gains tax at the same time. According to this. http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...px?NewsID=3482 But everybody can write their own history. Even burn it on a DVD. Ain't technology wonderful?! --Vic |
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