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You seem to be afraid of everything. Unlike you I am smart.


~~ Snerk ~~ ..and you show it with every post you make!

On Jun 26, 4:28*pm, HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
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Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:14:10 -0400, John H
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:45:14 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
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This looks like a pretty cool product.

http://www.seaspension.com/recreatio...n=com_content&...
Save the money. Bend your knees.
I would - if I could. *:)

Get 'em replaced.

* MSNBC.com

Knee replacement surgery worth the price
When compared with other procedures, operation deemed ‘cost-effective’
Reuters
updated 9:01 p.m. ET June 22, 2009

CHICAGO - Knee replacement surgery is expensive but worth the cost,
especially if performed by experienced surgeons, U.S. researchers said on
Monday.

Some $11 billion is spent on 500,000 total knee replacements each year in
the United States, and the number is projected to multiply seven times by
2030 because of the aging, overweight population.

Elena Losina and colleagues at Brigham and Women's Hospital and the Boston
University School of Public Health set out to determine if the operations
on Medicare patients aged 65 and older were cost-effective — a subjective
threshold based on years of life spent in good health.

Some nine out of 10 knee replacements are successful — knee pain goes away
and patients become more mobile.

In the study, knee replacement surgery and subsequent costs added up to
$57,900 per patient, which was $20,800 more than was spent on those who
did not get the surgery.

Those who got artificial knees lived more than a year longer in good
health than those who did not, and the researchers calculated the added
cost per year of good-quality life at $18,300.

They deemed that outlay, when compared to other procedures to treat aging
bones, "highly cost-effective."

The surgery's cost-effectiveness rose with the experience of the surgeons
who worked at high-volume hospitals, as is true with many complicated
procedures. Results were generally not as good for blacks, Hispanics, and
older patients, according to the report published in the Archives of
Internal Medicine.

The prosthetics are made by companies such as Stryker Corp, Zimmer
Holdings Inc, Johnson & Johnson and Smith & Nephew.

President Barack Obama has identified cost-effectiveness studies as a way
to trim U.S. health costs and steer doctors away from wasteful procedures.

Some $1.1 billion was included in the federal stimulus package to fund
such studies.

Stephen Lyman of Weill Cornell Medical College in New York said in an
editorial that translating cost-effectiveness to medical practice was an
uphill climb.

"At least in the United States, even well-performed cost-effectiveness
analyses do not influence either payers or physicians directly. Payers do
not use the results to make coverage determinations nor do physicians use
them to make treatment decisions," Lyman wrote.
Copyright 2009 Reuters. Click for restrictions.

URL:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31494123...e_health_news/

My orthopedic guy said I will need new knees soon. *Too much jumping off
high places in my youth I think. *But friends wife had a knee replacement.
1st replacement became infected. *3 months without a knee. *2nd knee fell
apart. *3rd knee is OK, but with all the scar tissue, she is always in a lot
of pain and restricted movement. *I think I will wait until as the doc
stated, the only way you can get in here is crawling and crying.

It's not surgery I'd want to have. But I do have a slightly older friend
who had a knee replaced. He was in pretty bad pain for a while, then he
could hobble around on crutches, then a cane, and now he's walking and
moving around pretty good, and back to riding his motorcycles.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Did you tell him how he's endangering himself?

Gene wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:45:14 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

This looks like a pretty cool product.

http://www.seaspension.com/recreatio...49&It emid=57

I wish they made a shorter model. Tying back into the low transom
stuff, my boat has such a high entrance to the cuddy that the
pedestals are only about 9" tall. That's probably too short to be
practical, but it is a neat product....


I suggest two inches of foam padding sewn into the back of your bathing
suit!

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You seem to be afraid of everything. Unlike you I am smart.


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Why thank you.

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You seem to be afraid of everything. Unlike you I am smart.


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Why thank you.


Hmmm.. yes, why would you thank me when I'm pointing out your many flaws.
Maybe because I'm trying to make you a better man??

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You seem to be afraid of everything. Unlike you I am smart.


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Why thank you.


Hmmm.. yes, why would you thank me when I'm pointing out your many flaws.
Maybe because I'm trying to make you a better man??


Why thank you for again pointing out how much smarter I am than you.