On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:50:14 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:26:36 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Now, Obama, Chavez and Castro want Honduras to ignore their law and
his illegal actions and put him back in power.

You keep posting "Obama, Chavez and Castro" as if they are the only
folks taking this position. I've really looked for any country, ANY
country that supports Honduras, but I can't find one.

Last time I asked this question, I got crickets..... so, I'll ask
again:

Does ANY country support Honduras in this?

Neoconville.

That's not a country, it's a small town in nowhere, USA.

On Jun 30, 4:13*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:50:14 -0400, HK wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:26:36 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Now, Obama, Chavez and Castro want Honduras to ignore their law and
his illegal actions and put him back in power. *

You keep posting "Obama, Chavez and Castro" as if they are the only
folks taking this position. I've really looked for any country, ANY
country that supports Honduras, but I can't find one.

Last time I asked this question, I got crickets..... so, I'll ask
again:

Does ANY country support Honduras in this?

Neoconville.

That's not a country, it's a small town in nowhere, USA.

Right and wrong is not defined by consensus. The fact is that they
followed the rule of law as defined by their constitution. It was not
a coup. If you do not approve of following a constitution, why should
I follow one either?

Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 30, 4:13 pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:50:14 -0400, HK wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:26:36 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
Now, Obama, Chavez and Castro want Honduras to ignore their law and
his illegal actions and put him back in power.
You keep posting "Obama, Chavez and Castro" as if they are the only
folks taking this position. I've really looked for any country, ANY
country that supports Honduras, but I can't find one.
Last time I asked this question, I got crickets..... so, I'll ask
again:
Does ANY country support Honduras in this?
Neoconville.
That's not a country, it's a small town in nowhere, USA.

Right and wrong is not defined by consensus. The fact is that they
followed the rule of law as defined by their constitution. It was not
a coup. If you do not approve of following a constitution, why should
I follow one either?


Froggy, consumer-product-inventor-wannabe and expert on Honduran
constitution, eh?

What a laugh.

On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:22:41 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Jun 30, 4:13*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:50:14 -0400, HK wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:26:36 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Now, Obama, Chavez and Castro want Honduras to ignore their law and
his illegal actions and put him back in power. *

You keep posting "Obama, Chavez and Castro" as if they are the only
folks taking this position. I've really looked for any country, ANY
country that supports Honduras, but I can't find one.

Last time I asked this question, I got crickets..... so, I'll ask
again:

Does ANY country support Honduras in this?

Neoconville.

That's not a country, it's a small town in nowhere, USA.

Right and wrong is not defined by consensus. The fact is that they
followed the rule of law as defined by their constitution. It was not
a coup. If you do not approve of following a constitution, why should
I follow one either?

Okay, by your logic, we should've kicked Bush out of the country when
his party interceded in the lawful recounting of votes in Florida.

On Jun 30, 4:30*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:22:41 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch



wrote:
On Jun 30, 4:13*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:50:14 -0400, HK wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:26:36 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Now, Obama, Chavez and Castro want Honduras to ignore their law and
his illegal actions and put him back in power. *

You keep posting "Obama, Chavez and Castro" as if they are the only
folks taking this position. I've really looked for any country, ANY
country that supports Honduras, but I can't find one.

Last time I asked this question, I got crickets..... so, I'll ask
again:

Does ANY country support Honduras in this?

Neoconville.

That's not a country, it's a small town in nowhere, USA.

Right and wrong is not defined by consensus. *The fact is that they
followed the rule of law as defined by their constitution. *It was not
a coup. *If you do not approve of following a constitution, why should
I follow one either?

Okay, by your logic, we should've kicked Bush out of the country when
his party interceded in the lawful recounting of votes in Florida.

If you'd had a legal basis for doing so, Yes.

Gene wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:26:36 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Now, Obama, Chavez and Castro want Honduras to ignore their law and
his illegal actions and put him back in power.

You keep posting "Obama, Chavez and Castro" as if they are the only
folks taking this position. I've really looked for any country, ANY
country that supports Honduras, but I can't find one.

Last time I asked this question, I got crickets..... so, I'll ask
again:

Does ANY country support Honduras in this?

The Honduran people support their own actions in this! That counts more
than any external support due to the fact that it is their country.

BAR wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:26:36 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Now, Obama, Chavez and Castro want Honduras to ignore their law and
his illegal actions and put him back in power.

You keep posting "Obama, Chavez and Castro" as if they are the only
folks taking this position. I've really looked for any country, ANY
country that supports Honduras, but I can't find one.

Last time I asked this question, I got crickets..... so, I'll ask
again:

Does ANY country support Honduras in this?

The Honduran people support their own actions in this! That counts more
than any external support due to the fact that it is their country.



You've polled Hondurans?

On Jun 30, 7:03*pm, HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:26:36 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Now, Obama, Chavez and Castro want Honduras to ignore their law and
his illegal actions and put him back in power. *

You keep posting "Obama, Chavez and Castro" as if they are the only
folks taking this position. I've really looked for any country, ANY
country that supports Honduras, but I can't find one.

Last time I asked this question, I got crickets..... so, I'll ask
again:

Does ANY country support Honduras in this?

The Honduran people support their own actions in this! That counts more
than any external support due to the fact that it is their country.

You've polled Hondurans?

Unlike lefties who are incapable of thought, I have read about the
Honduran Supreme Court and read the pertinent parts of their
constitution. They acted legally, responsibly and as directed by
their constitution. Obama wants them to act against their
constitution as does the OAS which is as silly as the UN. So, Yes,
Obama, Castro and Chavez fit together very well.

Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 30, 1:33 pm, HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
In Honduras where Pres Zalada was illegally trying to organize a
referendum to allow himself to remain pres beyond the end of his term,
he had imported ballots from Chavez. The army which is charged by
their constitution with organizing elections took the ballots for safe
keeping. Zalada sent his thugs to steal said ballots.
Aside from the fact that the Pres of Honduras cannot organize such a
referendum, it has to be done by the legislative branch, his stealing
the ballots to make sure he "won" resulted in him being arrested after
a court order by the Supreme Court ruled his actions illegal and
unconstitutional. This was not a coup but was legal and in accord
with their constitution.
Now, Obama, Chavez and Castro want Honduras to ignore their law and
his illegal actions and put him back in power. What ever happened to
rule of law? If the constitution of a govt means nothing to these
people, maybe we should not think it applies to them and remove them
by ANY means.
Obama needs to answer to us on whether constitutionality means
anything to him.
Is that your drug-induced take on Honduras?

Note the total lack of reasoning on the part of HK. He is simply not
capable of forming a rational idea which is why his only skill is cut
and paste.

And lie...

On Jun 30, 2:27*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:48:59 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch





wrote:
On Jun 30, 1:33*pm, HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
In Honduras where Pres Zalada was illegally trying to organize a
referendum to allow himself to remain pres beyond the end of his term,
he had imported ballots from Chavez. *The army which is charged by
their constitution with organizing elections took the ballots for safe
keeping. *Zalada sent his thugs to steal said ballots.
Aside from the fact that the Pres of Honduras cannot organize such a
referendum, it has to be done by the legislative branch, his stealing
the ballots to make sure he "won" resulted in him being arrested after
a court order by the Supreme Court ruled his actions illegal and
unconstitutional. *This was not a coup but was legal and in accord
with their constitution.
Now, Obama, Chavez and Castro want Honduras to ignore their law and
his illegal actions and put him back in power. *What ever happened to
rule of law? *If the constitution of a govt means nothing to these
people, maybe we should not think it applies to them and remove them
by ANY means.
Obama needs to answer to us on whether constitutionality means
anything to him.

Is that your drug-induced take on Honduras?

Note the total lack of reasoning on the part of HK. *He is simply not
capable of forming a rational idea which is why his only skill is cut
and paste.

That supposes what you've written contains reason. *Big leap.- Hide quoted text -

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Yeah, those pesky facts keep getting in the way...